Oh, come on, Bethesda!, Closed cities AGAIN? Options

[Thomas Kaira]

May I ask exactly why? Oblivion could take open cities in perfect stride. The only reason the cities got closed at all was because BethSoft panicked about the console support.

Granted, they did have an excuse then, as they only received the Xbox 360 to do actual testing over the last three months of dev. time, but here... not so much. The current excuse is that the consoles can't handle what they are doing. Trouble is, the industry always manages to surprise us with exactly what those consoles CAN handle.

So long as the NPC count in the cities goes up by at least twice what we got in Oblivion, I will be understanding and shall complain no more. If not... well... then I will KNOW you are just being lazy. I want to see progress in making these games the best they can be, I don't want Skyrim to simply be Oblivion HD.

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In other news:

- Alchemy is becoming a stealth skill. (Approve! Approve!)

- There will be no minigames involved with the crafting skills (Thank you!)

- Giants, Draugr, and other creatures will receive a bit of culture from the AI engine (Looking forward to this.)

This post has been edited by Thomas Kaira: May 3 2011, 07:07 PM

[McBadgere]

Just re-reading the whole topic...Very heavy stuff... ...

Just a couple of things though...

Plus the few permanent bonuses like the Breton magicka boost. I imagine that where 75% of people seem to play Bretons in Oblivion, it will climb to 95% in Skyrim if that is the case...

I've never used a Breton. Indeed my most powerful mage is my Argonian bizzarely enough.

Skyrim will use Steamworks for DRM.

Make of it what you will. I will tell you that A LOT of people will be VERY unhappy with this news, though.

Why?...Just curious, I have no idea who they are...

So what does that mean then? Will I have to DL the client just to play the game? Or is it just a 'register your game' thing?

I'm going to be really unhappy if I have to be connected to their servers just to play the game.

Presumably that means PSN for me then?...I don't think the PS3 can connect to the outside world for stuff like that...Or is that going to mean I can't do the DLCs then?...

The vast majority of gamers nowadays are instant-gratification, zero-challenge, realism-only-if-it's-not-too-hard types. These are the people Skyrim is being designed to appeal to. The people who demand a huge open world, and at the same time demand a way to completely skip it whenever they want at no cost to them

Oh, that would be me then...I'm not above going into a dungeon and if it's undead, I'll drop the difficulty level...Why not?...It's there to do...Like Fast Travel, Encumberance spells and Enchanting your armour so you can carry a small city...

That's why I'm more pissed about them combining Cuirasses and Greaves...Not 'cause of anything else, but that it stops me getting that one more enchantment...

I've really enjoyed Oblivion...I can see the flaws, sure...But I can just imagine my way past all of them...My characters have power-leveled to the point where they can't be killed...Practically...Does this stop me enjoying it?...Noooo!!...Because I did it deliberately!!...Hell, I'm pissed off you can't make their armour 100%...I don't want to be killed when I'm playing something to enjoy myself!!...Aaand I can see many shouties headed my way...But when I play a game, it is up to me how it should be done at that point...If it is too hard and I don't enjoy it, I will turn it off...Very mature me...

This is why I stopped playing New Vegas...Once the update prior to Old World Blues came along, it just got annoyingly hard and boring fighting Caesar's assassins all the time...*Yawn*...Not fun anymore see?...

Oh, my characters may be Demi-Gods, but they're all distinct it has to be said...And several of them have much the same major skill-set...

[Thomas Kaira]

Skyrim will use Steamworks for DRM.

Make of it what you will. I will tell you that A LOT of people will be VERY unhappy with this news, though.

Why?...Just curious, I have no idea who they are...

So what does that mean then? Will I have to DL the client just to play the game? Or is it just a 'register your game' thing?

I'm going to be really unhappy if I have to be connected to their servers just to play the game.

Presumably that means PSN for me then?...I don't think the PS3 can connect to the outside world for stuff like that...Or is that going to mean I can't do the DLCs then?...

Console online services cannot be compared to PC online services like Steam or Origin. With console services, you don't need to deal with them if you don't want to. You can just put the disc in the slot and boot it up. Updates are optional, too (you can't play online without updating, but the simple fact that you don't have to if you don't want to makes a huge difference, especially for single-player games), and you are not forced to activate and validate your game purchase online. To put it simply, you are forced to have an internet connection to play the PC version, but not for the console version.

That is not fair. Period. PC gamers are being singled out as criminals through all the hoops and DRM we need to jump through now to play our legally-purchased games. Some don't mind, but I resent that.

This post has been edited by Thomas Kaira: Oct 30 2011, 06:20 PM