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Channler |
May 21 2005, 03:09 AM
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Master

Joined: 20-March 05
From: Nashville, North Carolina

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Welcome to the Waiting4Oblivion Parliament!
You may ask why I gave this topic such a a name, and the answer is very simple.
Have you ever seen them Asians in their Parliament? Absolutely hysterical.
And I believe we here at W4O can successfully do better.
But on a more serious note.
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Ok, the first topic I would like to present would be one that has been highly debated, praised, torn apart, lied about, un-fairly portrayed, and in the end a very important subject.
Topic -- The Iraqi War and It's Aftermath.
First off let me say that I support the war, and I support what G.W. did. What I don't think is right is the fact to convince (Some) of the American people to support the war, that highly un-reliable information was used. Personally I think that it was the CIA's fault, but I do believe that President Bush should have apologized about the faulty information. However, he should have also stated that for the good of the Iraqi people. we were to finish the work from Desert Storm and get rid of the evil dictator.
What do you think?
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DoomedOne |
May 22 2005, 05:21 AM
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Master

Joined: 13-April 05
From: Cocytus

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That's in the flawed form of socialism. This flawed form is the one we usually see because revolutionaries use violence, and use any means necessary, which corrupts their ends. Any power corrupts, give someone too much power and they will do anything necessary to keep it.
That's why a socialism where the government controls everything is not perfect. In my opinion, only a government that changes is a perfect one. Human nature simply does not fit into a system where the government has too much power.
I favor a system where there is a tweaked for of republic for the government, and socialism for the economy. Another problem with socialism is once everyone's basic needs are met, there is no supply and demand, and therefore the government feels no motive to expand on that technology.
I'm more in favor of a regulated capitalism. The government would technically own all businesses, but they'd be managed by people, and therefore all people in this country would get what they give. Just ebcause they managed a business does not mean they could reap from the rewards, it'd be a regular working job like any other.
Freedom of trade without barbie dolls making little girls depressed, mcdonalds serving bad meat, pharmacuticals making drugs that make people more sick or corporations exploiting workers. No more Oil companies paying off car companies not to make alternate-energy vehicles. No more corporations lobbying in congress that would pass bills that in the end up harming the people so they can put more money in their pockets.
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A man once asked the Buddha, "How does one escape the heat of the summer sun?"
And the Buddha replied, "Why not try crawling into the blazing furnace?"
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Channler The W4O Parliament May 21 2005, 03:09 AM DoomedOne It didn't become about Saddam Hussein until they r... May 21 2005, 03:41 AM jonajosa I support the war because Saddam had Weapons of Ma... May 21 2005, 04:28 AM Channler It didn't become about Saddam Hussein until they r... May 21 2005, 04:58 AM DoomedOne Because the war was never about WMDs, terrorists o... May 21 2005, 10:00 AM minque Guys!
I must say this is interesting! You debate ... May 21 2005, 11:16 AM Wolfie I think the war in Iraq should never have happened... May 21 2005, 12:36 PM Channler
...Where did you hear this from? If so can I r... May 21 2005, 06:28 PM Wolfie
[quote=LoneWolf]just like it was the US who gave... May 21 2005, 06:32 PM Channler Any more concrete evidence.. They told me that Eve... May 21 2005, 06:35 PM Wolfie Actaully she was African, so she would be black May 21 2005, 06:36 PM Channler Wheres the Tirgis and the Euphrates? in the Middle... May 21 2005, 06:38 PM DoomedOne Guys!
I must say this is interesting! You debate ... May 21 2005, 06:40 PM jonajosa Ok Ok a new topic shall we? We've bled Iraq to dea... May 21 2005, 06:44 PM Wolfie Ok Ok a new topic shall we? We've bled Iraq to dea... May 21 2005, 06:45 PM DoomedOne Wheres the Tirgis and the Euphrates? in the Middle... May 21 2005, 06:46 PM jonajosa I know but its the Muslims who are doing it. Thast... May 21 2005, 06:47 PM DoomedOne Ok Ok a new topic shall we? We've bled Iraq to dea... May 21 2005, 06:49 PM Wolfie I know it still has to do with religion, more spec... May 21 2005, 06:52 PM DoomedOne The people will find away. Peoples don't just sit... May 21 2005, 07:02 PM Channler
Time for some history
Lucy is the earliest re... May 21 2005, 07:08 PM jonajosa The mass murders in Sudan. May 21 2005, 07:14 PM DoomedOne
No, they didn't use anthropology. They used t... May 21 2005, 07:32 PM minque So Iīve been reading with great interest and I thi... May 21 2005, 07:58 PM jonajosa Not you too minque! So dissapointing. But whatever... May 21 2005, 08:01 PM minque Not you too minque! So dissapointing. But whatever... May 21 2005, 08:07 PM Channler Well I'm not a pacifist, but then I dont go out lo... May 21 2005, 08:25 PM Elongar I would say (going way, way back to the Sudan part... May 21 2005, 09:07 PM Channler Ok.. heres another topic, but quite a bit more fun... May 21 2005, 10:04 PM jonajosa I would say (going way, way back to the Sudan part... May 21 2005, 10:40 PM Channler Well, I didn't see any pics but my father said he ... May 21 2005, 11:13 PM DoomedOne I would say (going way, way back to the Sudan part... May 21 2005, 11:32 PM minque I canīt resist replying to this Doomedone...becaus... May 21 2005, 11:39 PM Channler
Extremism in any form creates a bad means. See,... May 21 2005, 11:42 PM DoomedOne
No I'm not, not at all. When the declaration ... May 21 2005, 11:52 PM minque
EDIT: If it isn't a to touchy subject Minq... May 21 2005, 11:54 PM Channler
No need to get angry... But instead of waiting... May 22 2005, 12:00 AM DoomedOne Lafayette is a hero and anyone who considers thems... May 22 2005, 12:06 AM Channler Lafayette is a hero and anyone who considers thems... May 22 2005, 12:19 AM minque OK.....now you two please stay nice and calm.....n... May 22 2005, 12:22 AM Channler OK.....now you two please stay nice and calm.....n... May 22 2005, 12:23 AM minque why thatīs EXCELLENT......
so Channler what did... May 22 2005, 12:24 AM Channler why thatīs EXCELLENT......
so Channler what did... May 22 2005, 12:27 AM minque OK
Now my father is german, he was 17 years whe... May 22 2005, 12:31 AM Channler Do you know how long he was in prison for? May 22 2005, 12:36 AM minque yes...from 1944 til 1948 when they let him out, bu... May 22 2005, 12:38 AM Channler yes...from 1944 til 1948 when they let him out, bu... May 22 2005, 01:06 AM Wolfie If it's not too intrusive, what exactly did he do? May 22 2005, 01:08 AM minque in general during the war he was in the occupation... May 22 2005, 01:12 AM DoomedOne I think I was being nice. I don't recall getting ... May 22 2005, 02:11 AM jonajosa Both us and the French have "pooped" on each other... May 22 2005, 02:45 AM DoomedOne Okay, new topic time. May 22 2005, 02:47 AM jonajosa You better add a smiley to that or else. May 22 2005, 02:47 AM DoomedOne To what? May 22 2005, 02:48 AM jonajosa The part where you insulted my mom. May 22 2005, 02:49 AM DoomedOne Okay I think you're getting PTSD from all the acti... May 22 2005, 02:53 AM jonajosa Maybe... but i think anyone would get agrivated if... May 22 2005, 02:57 AM Channler Okay I think you're getting PTSD from all the acti... May 22 2005, 03:09 AM jonajosa I will help make the carolinas a free country!!! I... May 22 2005, 03:13 AM Channler Ok officially the topic now is..
Your Choice, S... May 22 2005, 03:28 AM jonajosa Socialism! May 22 2005, 03:31 AM Channler Socialism, to me, is the most perfect form of gove... May 22 2005, 04:58 AM Channler
Freedom of trade without barbie dolls making lit... May 22 2005, 06:50 AM DoomedOne Well, to me heaven is when you manage to leave thi... May 22 2005, 07:26 AM minque Good Morning all debaters!
Iīve been reading th... May 22 2005, 11:18 AM Aki
What do you bguys think of those people down in ... May 22 2005, 12:19 PM Fuzzy Knight Good Morning all debaters!
Iīve been reading th... May 22 2005, 12:22 PM Chumbaniya Socialism!
I think in theory socialism makes se... May 22 2005, 12:42 PM jonajosa Better to have it work for alittle at the begining... May 22 2005, 02:12 PM Channler
What do you bguys think of those people down in ... May 22 2005, 09:34 PM DoomedOne Killing our economy? It actually helps our econom... May 22 2005, 09:40 PM Channler
Thats not really our problem now is it? (Thoug... May 22 2005, 09:46 PM jonajosa I agree with Channler. May 22 2005, 10:04 PM DoomedOne That's a little unrealistic. They don't come to A... May 22 2005, 10:05 PM minque yeah...we kinda have a problem with immigrants her... May 22 2005, 10:06 PM jonajosa Where are you orginally from Minque? May 22 2005, 10:08 PM minque I was born in Sweden , my mom is genuine swedish, ... May 22 2005, 10:10 PM Chumbaniya I've got nothing against immigration (I'm from Eng... May 22 2005, 10:17 PM jonajosa I agree. If you are coming to live in a english sp... May 22 2005, 10:20 PM minque Yes I afgree too! Here in Sweden the immigrants do... May 22 2005, 10:24 PM DoomedOne Minque, we do that here in America. See, you know... May 22 2005, 10:34 PM Chumbaniya Minque, we do that here in America. See, you know... May 22 2005, 10:37 PM jonajosa Thats messed up. What country do you live in Doome... May 22 2005, 10:38 PM DoomedOne America May 22 2005, 10:40 PM jonajosa I have to admit. Some Americans are real stupid. May 22 2005, 10:41 PM minque Here they do it but mainly unofficial..a classmate... May 22 2005, 10:42 PM DoomedOne It's pretty much standard for legal immigration. ... May 22 2005, 10:44 PM jonajosa It happens everywhere you go. People these days. M... May 22 2005, 10:45 PM minque It's pretty much standard for legal immigration. ... May 22 2005, 10:46 PM Aki I have to admit. Some Americans are real stupid.
... May 22 2005, 10:52 PM jonajosa From frances point of view. :lmao: May 22 2005, 10:55 PM DoomedOne Or the UK May 22 2005, 10:57 PM minque It happens everywhere you go. People these days. M... May 22 2005, 11:00 PM Wolfie Vaguely on the topic of immigration, Ireland has l... May 22 2005, 11:34 PM Channler That's a little unrealistic. They don't come to A... May 23 2005, 02:28 AM jonajosa Because we are a free nation and we welcome everyo... May 23 2005, 02:30 AM DoomedOne When did I say they were fluent in english. You'r... May 23 2005, 02:32 AM jonajosa This is a place for civilized discussions. I can s... May 23 2005, 02:36 AM DoomedOne ...
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