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About the compass, if you hadn't gathered, lol
I liked it, it should stay [ 12 ] ** [35.29%]
I hated it, it should go [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
It should only show nautical points (N,S, W, E) [ 7 ] ** [20.59%]
Keep the compass with a limited range [ 3 ] ** [8.82%]
Come with a range of sliders to set to your whims [ 12 ] ** [35.29%]
Total Votes: 34
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Pushtrak
post Jul 31 2006, 11:17 AM
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Newbiezilla asked me to post this here...

I personally go with Nautical points.
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Take this thread as a "What should Oblivion have been" or "What can TES V be." The outcome is probably the exact same anyway smile.gif

Anyway, we can assess numbers of people who are in favour of the compass with this thread. We can find out what people want done with it, or wish was done with it.

I'll deal with my attitudes to each of the poll options - I don't require anyone else to do this, so don't feel obligated.

I liked it. it should stay
I disagree with this one, as I felt it was added to fit into a larger audience, so people would have the incentive to play on if they weren't hardcore gamers.

People who had friends with this game would play it for maybe half an hour, and if they knew what they were doing, and not getting frustrated like they might have done if they were playing Morrowind in same friends house, and decided against buying it.

I personally played Morrowind over in a friends house before buying the game, and I bought it for exactly the opposite reason - I felt I could explore anywhere and have fun.

I hated it, it should go
I'd like the game without the compass for sure. Though I know they felt that it was obligatory because the fact that NPCs went on their schedules.

To me, it was unrealistic having the ability to have a compass detect people like that. I say no to compass detecting people, anyway, personally. Locations I can deal with, not people.

Nautical points
You have a map, in game and in real life, so I felt that Nautical points compass would be ok as a just when you get directions to have an on screen representation to confirm you are going the right way.

Limited range
This could work quite well, for instance at Cheydinhal you will not see something at Anvil being pointed out to you... I think a set paramater could work quite well here.

Sliders
My problem with sliders is I feel we shouldn't have to adjust sliders to accomodate us. I don't like messing with the difficulty slider, as I should feel i'm going into a world, not tweaking the world. Though i'm open to counter points on that.

A slider for on or off, thats fine, i'd end up switching it off assuming nautical wasn't an option.

Summary
I guess you could say i'm mixed in my opinions. I guess you could say at the moment i'd go with Nautical (or compass points)


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PhonAntiPhon
post Mar 11 2013, 07:43 PM
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I have no problem with the compass in Oblivion actually, as is, but that said I also use Darnified so I can ef about with it anyway if I want.
On a comparative note, and in this instance I feel it's justified; I hated the compass in The Game of the Northern Province. I just did not get along with the whole enemy radar thing.
Fortunately the compass tuner mod really helped in that respect...


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post Mar 12 2013, 02:18 AM
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QUOTE(PhonAntiPhon @ Mar 11 2013, 11:43 AM) *

I just did not get along with the whole enemy radar thing.

That was a Fallout 3 feature. I'm guessing it must have been popular enough for Bethesda to import it into Skyrim.

Anyway, I not only don't play with a compass in Oblivion and Skyrim, I've also stopped looking at the in-game map. I have not opened a map in either game since sometime last year. It makes the game world feel 4 or 5 times larger to me. It's just an incredibly astounding difference.

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post Mar 12 2013, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Mar 11 2013, 08:18 PM) *

Anyway, I not only don't play with a compass in Oblivion and Skyrim, I've also stopped looking at the in-game map. I have not opened a map in either game since sometime last year. It makes the game world feel 4 or 5 times larger to me. It's just an incredibly astounding difference.

Playing without a map and quest objectives has its appeal, but I just don't have the time to play with out them.


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post Mar 12 2013, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(King Coin @ Mar 11 2013, 07:18 PM) *

Playing without a map and quest objectives has its appeal, but I just don't have the time to play with out them.

You're right, it's not for everybody. It definitely does take much longer to find many places without looking at the in-game map. Which is actually part of its charm for me. I love exploring and I love getting lost.

This started back in Morrowind, when I'd begin many of my games in a shipwreck off Azura's Coast. I had a rule: no looking at the map until we reached civilization. Azura's Coast is pretty featureless, so it was easy to get lost and stay lost in that area of the gameworld. I loved wandering with no idea where I was. I guess I'm just strange that way. Doing quests bores me to tears most of the time but wandering around lost keeps me on the edge of my seat with excitement. Go figure.

I'm self-employed so I have the time for all this. I can carve out blocks of time out of my schedule in which to play at my leisure. But I'm sure that someone with less time to play is going to find playing without a map (or playing without fast travel) not much fun, and I don't blame them.

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Pushtrak   The Compass   Jul 31 2006, 11:17 AM
Ibis   I voted that I like the compass the way it is. I t...   Aug 1 2006, 12:09 AM
Rane   I have nothing against the compass itself. What I ...   Aug 4 2006, 02:18 PM
DoomedOne   I don't even think the compass should be an op...   Aug 5 2006, 12:36 AM
hunter14   i said the compass should stay because it would be...   Aug 5 2006, 06:22 AM
Abu the Cat   I like it. It shows me all the quest targets and i...   Aug 6 2006, 05:37 AM
ThePerson98   I would like it if it didnt show targets, but if y...   Aug 7 2006, 02:00 AM
Powerslide   The compass? It seems to me that people unnecissar...   Aug 8 2006, 10:32 AM
Ibis   I like it and I like teleporting by map, although ...   Aug 8 2006, 09:29 PM
Abu the Cat   Omg Rane - you're 60 days short? Congrats...   Aug 11 2006, 05:02 AM
I_am_elf_hear_me_roar   I use it all the time it very helpful :blink: howb...   Aug 11 2006, 05:57 AM
Ibis   I use the compass all the time too. Except with th...   Aug 11 2006, 08:08 PM
Abu the Cat   [quote name='Abu the Cat' post='85725' date='Aug ...   Aug 11 2006, 08:36 PM
Ibis   What do you think are the two hardest cities to tr...   Aug 11 2006, 11:20 PM
Abu the Cat   No no, if they'll be pissed with anyone it...   Aug 12 2006, 05:54 AM
Ibis   Just edit, swipe and rewrite. Very easy although a...   Aug 13 2006, 10:41 AM
TormentedSoul   I liked the fact that I have a compass but not a b...   Aug 17 2006, 01:48 AM
1234king   I would like it if it only showed N,W,S,E. I don...   Aug 28 2006, 09:02 PM
TheImperialDragon   I would have liked the compass a lot better if it ...   Aug 30 2006, 05:47 AM
Pushtrak   Compass showing where NPCs are? What? Like a motio...   Sep 13 2006, 09:10 PM
TheImperialDragon   Meh, that is how Oblivion works. I think there sh...   Sep 13 2006, 11:53 PM
Pisces   Morrowind has lots of things everywhere, but obliv...   Sep 18 2006, 10:04 AM
mirocu   I couldnīt vote. I like the compass as it is but I...   Feb 10 2013, 11:13 AM
Lady Saga   Ha ha , ya, I'll have to post a screenie. Wh...   Feb 10 2013, 03:18 PM
mirocu   I put electrical tape over my compass in Oblivion...   Feb 10 2013, 04:42 PM
Grits   I voted for sliders. That way my preference doesn...   Feb 10 2013, 04:52 PM
Lady Saga   I voted for sliders. That way my preference doesn...   Mar 4 2013, 05:13 PM
King Coin   I personally like it, but I voted for sliders. Eve...   Mar 4 2013, 05:18 PM
Lady Saga   I personally like it, but I voted for sliders. Ev...   Mar 4 2013, 05:35 PM
ghastley   Although I haven't really played with the numb...   Mar 4 2013, 05:51 PM
Lady Saga   Hopefully Bethsoft learn from what the modders pr...   Mar 4 2013, 06:06 PM
mirocu   Hopefully Bethsoft learn from what the modders pr...   Mar 4 2013, 07:26 PM
Lady Saga   I love exploring and I love getting lost. Yea...   Mar 12 2013, 03:59 PM
King Coin   But I'm sure that someone with less time to p...   Mar 12 2013, 04:05 PM
Elisabeth Hollow   I'm opting for the customizable option. Someti...   Mar 12 2013, 02:43 AM
Acadian   I use DarN's dark user interface and customize...   Mar 12 2013, 03:43 AM
Colonel Mustard   As somebody with the sense of direction of a drunk...   Mar 12 2013, 10:34 AM
Callidus Thorn   Wow, I find myself completely unable to vote. Aft...   Nov 19 2013, 10:58 AM
Renee Gade IV   After spending months borrowing Renee's no co...   Nov 19 2013, 07:43 PM
Callidus Thorn   [quote name='Callidus Thorn' post='198955' date='...   Nov 19 2013, 10:54 PM
Renee Gade IV   Lol sorry!   Nov 20 2013, 04:19 AM


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