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"Here Is The News..", The Elder Scrolls Online General Discussion Thread... |
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McBadgere |
Aug 1 2013, 01:03 PM
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Hello!!...This thread is where we can discuss, news, views...Facts, rumours...Hopes, fears...And everything else that you want to about The Elder Scrolls Online that doesn't warrant it's own thread...If you know what I mean...  ... Plus, the other thread was morphing into this anyways...  ... Also...10 000 points to the first person to get the titular reference...  ... Aaaaamywho... Ere!!...They've announced four of the classes!!...I can't see that they're the only classes, they're a bit too vague and general...But apparently, whatever you choose, you can use everything anyways...So why they bother I dunno... Anyways, the two I remember are Dragon Knight, and Templar...No points for guessing the one I'm going for to start with...  ... The Dragon Knight is apparently the one for Heavy Armour/Tank with sword types...And the Templar is more for healing while killing types of knights...*Coughofthenine*... But they sound cool... Erm...Oh yeah...I forget the names of the other two classes...But they're built one for stealth and one for Mages... Definately looking forward to it...I just hope the payment thing doesn't rear it's head...Other than paying for DLCs of course...
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jack cloudy |
Feb 17 2014, 07:54 PM
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It was...not my cup of thea. Apart from the occasional lockup when exiting dialogue, I didn't notice any real bugs though that one was annoying enough.
I do have to give the game credit for trying. Trying to be a mixture between a single player ES game ala Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim, and a more traditional mmo in the vein of you name it. (I was gonna say World of Warcraft but given that I haven't played even a second of it I'm not going to risk being wrong.) That said, trying is the key word. I honestly think they should have picked one or the other. The combat system for example tries to be the one we've gotten used to since Oblivion. Moving, block beats regular attack beats power attack beats block. But there are three critical flaws in the online version's attempt.
The first of these is the lack of collision-boxes. Players, Npcs and generic respawning critters can all run right through each other. This makes judging distance much harder than I'm used to and I ended up just standing still so the AI wouldn't freak out and we could proceed to slap each other in the face without having an odd merging accident.
The second problem is latency. Even the slightest bit will end up making power attacks or blocks not connect or a dodge fail to trigger. Finally, the third is impact. Because the game has to deal with the aforementioned lack of collision boxes and latency, you don't get the satisfying recoil feel when an attack interacts with a block. There is a third factor to this as well. In the single-player games the AI only had to focus on one enemy, you. But now there could be half a dozen players jumping around and attacking the same target. Who should it aim its animations at? Sure, TES games aren't known for their animation quality, but they do manage to give a nice feel of first-person combat. ESO doesn't. At least not for me.
One animation pro I have to give for it is jumping and landing. This game has the best I've seen in the series by far.
But back to the bad stuff because I am a horribly depressing pessimist. As an mmo you can expect to be surrounded by dozens of other players. I know that. And I admit that everyone, at least as far as I got, fit into the world much better than in some mmos I've tried. Visually speaking I mean. Players look just like Npcs. Which can be a bit of a problem at times, but I like it. The bad part is that the game isn't designed to take the masses of wannabe heroes into account. Gotta sneak into an office to get some dirt on someone? Expect four more players to be jumping over the bed. Gotta go into this temple and fight a boss? Find out that said boss is well and truly contained by half a dozen elven women and the quest completes before you can lift a finger or get your bearings. Sure, the bad guy respawns three times before you can walk out of the door, but mob of fellow heroes saves the day again and again.
That was more immersion breaking than I'd thought it would be.
And finally I'll give my verdict. Worth the box price and the sub on top of that? No, not if you ask me. One or the other and I might consider it. Heck know I've had worse impulse buys. But both and at this rate? Nopes.
The worst criticism I can give to it isn't the off-feeling combat mechanics or the hyperactive mob, but sheer tedium. At the end of the beta weekend I had not even finished the first tutorial island (after the escape from the underworld), and I was bored out of my skull. I couldn't find anything to do but run from point a to point b and the insane respawn rates and density of hostiles that come with an mmo meant that my usual tourist-sightseeing kept being interupted. I tried crafting at the end of the weekend and despite having grabbed every thing that wasn't nailed down and having kept them all in my inventory, I still didn't have enough for a nice shirt or pants.
It's an mmo I guess. The only way to enjoy it is with friends to talk and joke with while you run around.
PS: And despite my overly negative judgement, that Imperial edition is still winking at me. I love my artbooks and want to see Hammerfell badly. That impulse buy might still be coming.
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McBadgere "Here Is The News.." Aug 1 2013, 01:03 PM mirocu
10 000 points to the first person to get the titu... Aug 1 2013, 04:16 PM SubRosa
Also...10 000 points to the first person to get t... Aug 1 2013, 05:06 PM Grits I have some questions. :)
Area progression: whe... Aug 1 2013, 10:57 PM Darkness Eternal
I have some questions. :)
Area progression: wh... Aug 2 2013, 12:49 AM mALX
Also...10 000 points to the first person to get t... Aug 2 2013, 12:18 AM Acadian
Also...10 000 points to the first person to get ... Aug 2 2013, 12:25 AM ThatSkyrimGuy
Also...10 000 points to the first person to get ... Aug 2 2013, 04:20 AM McBadgere One of the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of t... Aug 2 2013, 03:50 AM Darkness Eternal http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda/b/439743009?t=40m49s... Aug 2 2013, 06:45 PM ThatSkyrimGuy
http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda/b/439743009?t=40m49... Aug 3 2013, 05:28 PM jack cloudy Watching now.
Faction lock is in. (I sound like a... Aug 2 2013, 09:41 PM Darkness Eternal
Skills level by use. Good.
They're also lin... Aug 2 2013, 10:36 PM SubRosa
Guar is pronounced as Gore? Huh, I always thought... Aug 3 2013, 06:28 PM  Kiln
Guar is pronounced as Gore? Huh, I always though... Aug 3 2013, 08:32 PM SubRosa
Exploring gives xp. In other words, you can level... Aug 4 2013, 08:55 PM ImperialSnob
Watching now.
Faction lock is in. (I sound like ... Aug 7 2013, 07:24 PM McBadgere Wow...That's not like Bethesda to change stuff... Aug 4 2013, 06:55 PM ImperialSnob It's now confirmed,that ES:O will be 15 dollar... Aug 24 2013, 10:26 PM McBadgere Oh well, that'll be that done for then... :( .... Aug 25 2013, 04:23 PM ImperialSnob
Oh well, that'll be that done for then... :( ... Aug 25 2013, 07:46 PM SubRosa Well servers are not cheap, nor the data centers t... Aug 25 2013, 08:09 PM McBadgere And yet, those ones that are doing that Destiny th... Aug 25 2013, 09:11 PM ImperialSnob
And yet, those ones that are doing that Destiny t... Aug 25 2013, 09:17 PM SubRosa
And yet, those ones that are doing that Destiny t... Aug 25 2013, 10:42 PM McBadgere Bungie - Thank you Subrosa - said the story will p... Aug 26 2013, 04:55 AM ImperialSnob Even 55 pounds per box copy wouldn't be enough... Aug 26 2013, 11:03 AM McBadgere
Even 55 pounds per box copy wouldn't be enoug... Aug 26 2013, 12:34 PM  mirocu
Make it all free to play, and even the most casua... Oct 27 2013, 11:29 AM Darkness Eternal I can't explain how excited I am now. Finally,... Oct 30 2013, 11:02 PM Rohirrim I WANT WEREBEARS AND WERELIONS AN' STUFF! ... Oct 31 2013, 01:03 AM Darkness Eternal You heard it here folks.
http://www.amazon.com/f... Jan 29 2014, 12:57 PM mirocu
http://i.imgur.com/VXno9hg.jpg?1
Oh, I will so g... Jan 29 2014, 10:25 PM  mirocu
[quote name='Darkness Eternal' post='209987' date... Feb 1 2014, 05:15 PM Vital I'm not gonna play the game, but I could serio... Jan 29 2014, 01:57 PM Darkness Eternal New cinematic trailer is here. Am I the only one e... Jan 29 2014, 05:19 PM Darkness Eternal New info: We can now choose any race and join any ... Jan 29 2014, 05:38 PM King Coin Interesting, I may be preordering soon... Jan 30 2014, 01:00 AM King Coin Interesting, when you pre-order the game, not only... Feb 1 2014, 10:47 PM jack cloudy Well, got a beta key. So I'll be seeing what... Feb 5 2014, 11:17 AM Taillus I think the NDA has been lifted as of Friday. My ... Feb 9 2014, 03:26 PM King Coin
I think the NDA has been lifted as of Friday. My... Feb 15 2014, 04:37 PM King Coin
Interesting, I did not have very much trouble wit... Feb 17 2014, 09:34 PM Darkness Eternal ESRB gives us some insight on why ESO is rated M(t... Feb 27 2014, 09:44 PM ImperialSnob
ESRB gives us some insight on why ESO is rated M(... Mar 15 2014, 09:08 PM SubRosa And if ESO has skooma in it like the other ES game... Feb 27 2014, 11:22 PM King Coin Anyone want a beta key for this weekend? Feb 28 2014, 04:51 PM mirocu For the first time I just saw an add for ESO when ... Apr 6 2014, 09:38 AM Renee Gade IV Did they put spell creation in ESO? .. It's b... Apr 12 2014, 02:27 AM McBadgere Hey!!!...
So has anyone found out wha... Apr 13 2014, 11:31 AM King Coin
Did they put spell creation in ESO? .. It's ... Apr 13 2014, 03:19 PM McBadgere
Nope. Need a subscription to play at all.
Shame... Apr 13 2014, 09:46 PM SubRosa
Nope. Need a subscription to play at all.
So wha... Apr 13 2014, 10:13 PM mirocu If I were to jump aboard this bandwagon I have ser... Apr 13 2014, 09:55 PM King Coin It does seem like a lot of money, but I view it as... Apr 14 2014, 01:12 AM McBadgere
It does seem like a lot of money, but I view it a... Apr 14 2014, 12:57 PM King Coin Yeah, 4 subs would be a lot. Either they would hav... Apr 14 2014, 01:27 PM McBadgere
Yeah, 4 subs would be a [i]lot. Either they would... Apr 14 2014, 09:24 PM Acadian I think Oblivion cost me around $45US in 2007... Apr 14 2014, 01:45 PM mirocu I just don´t "trust" MMOs. It feels like... Apr 14 2014, 01:52 PM Grits I spend so little on myself that $15 per mont... Apr 14 2014, 02:15 PM Thomas Kaira Yes, each toon's (MMO term for character) posi... Apr 14 2014, 11:18 PM Renee Gade IV Toon? Well I've never used that word. *whistle... Apr 15 2014, 09:13 PM King Coin
I just read that the game is on PS4, Xbox 1, and ... Apr 16 2014, 12:09 AM Acadian I expect you can mod your user interface since tha... Apr 15 2014, 09:44 PM Thomas Kaira Mod support would only extend towards UI and textu... Apr 15 2014, 10:02 PM Renee Gade IV Oh I see. It's rather limited to textures and ... Apr 16 2014, 02:27 AM McBadgere Oh, just to update on the whole ESO subscription t... Apr 17 2014, 09:17 PM mirocu You really made the wrong choice there, McB ol´ bo... Apr 17 2014, 09:46 PM Thomas Kaira Not really. I'm pretty sure ESO is going to go... Apr 18 2014, 06:11 PM Callidus Thorn
Not really. I'm pretty sure ESO is going to g... Apr 18 2014, 10:10 PM King Coin
Not really. I'm pretty sure ESO is going to g... Apr 19 2014, 04:00 PM  Thomas Kaira
I'm worried that if it does go free to play, ... Apr 19 2014, 07:27 PM  McBadgere
[quote name='Thomas Kaira' post='220587' date='Ap... Apr 20 2014, 03:55 AM Thomas Kaira Well that's what happens when you have no endg... Apr 18 2014, 11:27 PM Thomas Kaira AngryJoe review.
Based on beta experiences I hav... Apr 22 2014, 08:51 PM SubRosa
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov3B26h12C4]... Apr 23 2014, 12:16 AM Vital So, eso hasn't lived up to the hype?
Not sur... Apr 22 2014, 10:49 PM Renee Gade IV :lol: Angry Joe cracks me up!
The PvP part a... Apr 22 2014, 10:50 PM King Coin I have found that if your group has been instanced... Apr 23 2014, 12:01 AM Thomas Kaira
I have found that if your group has been instance... Apr 23 2014, 12:44 AM  King Coin
Instancing is not the same as phasing. Instancing... Apr 23 2014, 12:59 AM McBadgere *Brandishes ten-foot bargepole...*...
*Doesn... Apr 23 2014, 04:50 AM Renee Gade IV
The worse thing about playing online with other p... Apr 23 2014, 03:39 PM  King Coin
I am wondering if Angry Joe's laid-back gamin... Apr 23 2014, 11:44 PM Grits I spit tea at the “bunny hopping” comment. Funnily... Apr 23 2014, 12:53 PM King Coin There are fewer people online in the mornings if t... Apr 23 2014, 01:55 PM Grits
There are fewer people online in the mornings if ... Apr 23 2014, 04:17 PM Thomas Kaira
I have to say the part where the guys were using ... Apr 23 2014, 07:12 PM Renee Gade IV Yeah the bit where they start pounding away with h... Apr 23 2014, 06:21 PM Thomas Kaira He was also sorta roleplaying then, as the command... Apr 24 2014, 12:16 AM Renee Gade IV
He was also sorta roleplaying then, as the comman... Apr 24 2014, 12:22 AM King Coin There are some people that try to RP, but most do ... Apr 24 2014, 12:32 AM Renee Gade IV
There are some people that try to RP, but most do... Apr 24 2014, 12:35 AM Thomas Kaira I'm keeping an eye on things, and by the word ... Apr 24 2014, 03:20 AM mirocu
I'll be taking another look at this game in d... Apr 24 2014, 07:39 AM  Vital
I'll be taking another look at this game in ... Apr 24 2014, 12:20 PM McBadgere
I'm keeping an eye on things, and by the word... Apr 24 2014, 12:59 PM Vital You're not the only one with that problem McB... Apr 24 2014, 01:09 PM
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