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The Nerf-Herders' Rest...(Or...It's A Trap!!...), A Star Wars discussion thread... |
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McBadgere |
May 16 2014, 08:30 AM
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Councilor

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Here's the place to discuss anything to do with the Star Wars phenomenon...Whether it's the films, tv, books or even the soundtrack record... ...
--------------------------------------------------------------------- As all Star Wars discussions always end up as a heated debate...I thought a couple of rules may be in order...Well, I say rules, I mean polite guidelines really... 1. No Blasters!!... 2. No Droids!! (Bots  )... 3. The person posting above or below you has as much right to their opinion - and their own love of whichever part of Star Wars - as you do...Be respectful of that... 4. Pointless slagging off is discouraged...If you don't like something, fine, that's to be expected...But please try to qualify your not liking with a half-decent reason...Answers like "Because he/she/they suck/It sucks" or that something is completely pointless because it is...Are not really decent reasons... 5. Remember that joy you had the first time you watched some Star Wars thing?...Just remember that there's a generational thing going on here...I remember when the original one came out and loved it...My kids love the newer trilogy...Others love the Clone Wars cartoons...There will be people joining at some point that will have fallen in love the new J.J. Abrams ones, them being the first ones they see... It's all about being respectful is all...  ... Ta... ----------------------------------------------------------- As you were...I think we were debating the changing of the EU by Disney...  ...
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SubRosa |
May 16 2014, 10:03 PM
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Ancient

Joined: 14-March 10
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I can see where some people would consider it Western Animation (though aren't most Western Animation shows like the Simpsons actually made in Korea?). It is made for an American audience, the original spoken language is English rather than Japanese, and the characters do not have the big huge eyes and small mouths so common in anime.
I still think of it as anime because it is animated, and is chock full of ridiculously over the top anime-style action: gravity defying leaps, super speed, and the like. Plus of course the show is at least partly made in Asia. It is cgi-driven rather than hand-drawn, but a lot of anime these days is either partly or fully cgi as well, so I do not think that means much either way.
On the topic of the tone of the original 3 movies vs. the following stuff from the European Union, I can see McB's point. The original saga has a very simple story of good vs. evil, with very black and white morality, and of course the good guys win without having to compromise their beliefs along the way (though Yoda tries to get Luke to do that in the second movie of course, but it does not work and he goes into the trap anyway).
I think that simplicity is a big reason for the first movie's success. It came out a few years after Vietnam, and that moral simplicity was a welcome change after years of gut-wrenching ambiguity in RL. I am sure the EU writers are trying to interject more realism into the setting by creating moral ambiguity. After all Real Life is not so cut and dried as things are in the original Star Wars film. Is that better or worse? I suppose it is a matter of opinion. It depends on what you are looking for in Star Wars.
This post has been edited by SubRosa: May 16 2014, 10:18 PM
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McBadgere The Nerf-Herders' Rest...(Or...It's A Trap!!...) May 16 2014, 08:30 AM mirocu
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Respect darlings!...Respect!...
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On the topic of the tone of the original 3 movie... May 17 2014, 04:43 AM Callidus Thorn Black and white morality? :huh:
You mean the film... May 17 2014, 09:46 AM McBadgere
Yeah, but also showed that in the end...Good win... May 17 2014, 10:10 AM Callidus Thorn The thing is, I don't think Jedi can be consid... May 17 2014, 10:20 AM mirocu
The thing is, I don't think Jedi can be consi... May 17 2014, 03:26 PM McBadgere Stop that... :mellow: ...That's...
Bugger...
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Stop that... :mellow: ...That's...
Bugger...... May 17 2014, 10:27 AM McBadgere But then Luke came back and all was good... :goodj... May 17 2014, 10:38 AM Callidus Thorn Now there, I completely agree. I stopped reading o... May 17 2014, 10:41 AM McBadgere But I like paragon types... :D ...
Nah, it's ... May 17 2014, 10:52 AM Callidus Thorn Corran Horn was awesome! Though strictly speak... May 17 2014, 10:56 AM Callidus Thorn Well, I do love the whole Jedi vs Sith thing...
A... May 17 2014, 03:40 PM McBadgere Well that's just over the top...Thinking...Pah... May 17 2014, 03:46 PM Callidus Thorn
Ah, see...Now I like J.J. Abrams stuff...I [i]lov... May 17 2014, 03:51 PM McBadgere Oh aye...Ta...
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Meh, I think they're... May 17 2014, 04:09 PM McBadgere
Thracken Sal-Solo? :huh:
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Han's cousin...Basically took over and ran th... May 18 2014, 10:25 AM  SubRosa
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Han jus... May 20 2014, 01:24 PM mirocu
I'm watching Star Wars!!!
Han ju... May 20 2014, 09:31 PM McBadgere
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[quote name='Callidus Thorn' post='224344' date='... May 20 2014, 10:22 PM Grits
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I'm just glad I don't have to put up with... May 20 2014, 10:28 PM McBadgere Yeah, I've got them on VHS too...Sadly, I... May 21 2014, 04:20 AM Callidus Thorn
Yeah, I've got them on VHS too...Sadly, I... May 21 2014, 11:23 AM mirocu I still have my VHS from before the new millennium... May 21 2014, 07:32 AM mirocu Why? He said he used DVDs :lol: May 21 2014, 11:31 AM Callidus Thorn
Why? He said he used DVDs :lol:
Original Star W... May 21 2014, 11:33 AM mirocu Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, okidoki :D
You might even cal... May 21 2014, 11:37 AM Callidus Thorn And soon, I'm going to be watching The Empire ... May 21 2014, 11:38 AM mirocu
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[quote name='Callidus Thorn' post='224402' date='... May 21 2014, 11:41 AM Darkness Eternal Anyone read Darth Plagueis by any chance? If so, w... May 21 2014, 12:14 PM McBadgere In reverse order...
DE...I was actually very inte... May 21 2014, 12:48 PM Callidus Thorn
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I go with Han, Vader and Yoda. No... May 23 2014, 10:26 AM Callidus Thorn Wookiepedia
For everything you could ever want to... May 23 2014, 10:28 AM mirocu Does it contain a section about the real Star Wars... May 23 2014, 10:34 AM Callidus Thorn AAAARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! :pa... May 23 2014, 10:36 AM McBadgere *Is actually looking forward to that*...
:D ... May 23 2014, 10:39 AM Callidus Thorn
*Is actually looking forward to that*...
:D ...... May 23 2014, 10:41 AM  McBadgere
You're looking forward to Disney-made Star W... May 23 2014, 10:53 AM   SubRosa
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That... May 23 2014, 04:20 PM    McBadgere
[quote name='McBadgere' post='224547' date='May 2... May 23 2014, 05:59 PM mirocu Let me share a good Nostalgia Critic quote:
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Let me share a good Nostalgia Critic quote:
... May 23 2014, 10:47 AM mirocu Maybe you´re right. I thought of the *shudder* pre... May 23 2014, 10:49 AM Callidus Thorn
Maybe you´re right. I thought of the *shudder* pr... May 23 2014, 10:53 AM  McBadgere
I thought the same once, and then I saw the phant... May 23 2014, 11:00 AM   mirocu
bear in mind that any opinion is all From A Certa... May 23 2014, 11:03 AM McBadgere Who's scruffy look-*Catches sight of reflectio... May 23 2014, 11:10 AM stargelman At least Rick Berman and Brannon Braga aren't ... May 23 2014, 04:27 PM Callidus Thorn Aargh!
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And my options for picking one up for the 360 ar... May 23 2014, 09:10 PM stargelman I guess TOR ain't a crowd favorite around here... May 23 2014, 08:04 PM Darkness Eternal Favorite characters: Darth Maul, Darth Vader, Dart... May 23 2014, 08:08 PM Callidus Thorn
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[quote name='Darkness Eternal' post='224587' date... May 24 2014, 12:52 PM McBadgere
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