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hazmick |
Nov 15 2015, 01:20 AM
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Any questline that involves you searching for someone is difficult to get right. If the player doesn't feel a connection with the person they're looking for, there's little to stop them getting distracted. For example: I had a little side quest earlier where a member of my settlement had been kidnapped by raiders. I got right on it, suited up in my power armor and rescued the heck out of my armor shopkeeper. I cared about that guy, so I did the quest. Oblivion's MQ also worked better because it didn't try and force a backstory onto your character. FO4 is just "You're a heterosexual, middle-class, American with a baby called Shaun. Go.". How am I supposed to identify with my character when I'm none of those things? ---------------- I'll have to disagree with you guys on the Ghouls. FO3 ghouls were so goofy and stupid. FO4's really give me the spooks. Having fun fighting Super Mutants though. They're really tough. The suicide bomber versions are the worst, since they use a mini nuke and just run at you. Fought a Mirelurk Queen earlier too. That was...not fun. --------------- As for the humour aspect, I kind of get what you mean. I felt the same when Skyrim came out, like it was missing something that I loved about Oblivion. Saying that though, I have found a crashed spaceship, complete with alien. My character welcomed him to the wasteland in the traditional fashion 
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"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."
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mirocu |
Nov 15 2015, 08:45 AM
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QUOTE(hazmick @ Nov 15 2015, 01:20 AM)  I'll have to disagree with you guys on the Ghouls. FO3 ghouls were so goofy and stupid. FO4's really give me the spooks.
You disagree with me!!?? YOU CANīT DO THAT!! I AM RIGHT AND YOU ARE......! Sorry. Thought I was on the official forums...  QUOTE(hazmick @ Nov 15 2015, 01:20 AM)  Oblivion's MQ also worked better because it didn't try and force a backstory onto your character. FO4 is just "You're a heterosexual, middle-class, American with a baby called Shaun. Go.". How am I supposed to identify with my character when I'm none of those things?
I am two of those things but I still donīt like the concept of a predetermined background. This is a Bethesda game and in my world that spells sandbox all the way, including my character. And I seriously donīt like the out-of-character-talking. It was fine in Deus Ex but again, this is a Beth game and to me it doesnīt fit. My character is mute, damnit!! 
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Lol birdIt matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul.
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hazmick |
Nov 15 2015, 02:17 PM
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Mouth

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QUOTE(mirocu @ Nov 15 2015, 07:45 AM)  And I seriously donīt like the out-of-character-talking. It was fine in Deus Ex but again, this is a Beth game and to me it doesnīt fit. My character is mute, damnit!!  Yeah the voiced character thing really limits your options. If there were more voices then it might be better, but you've just got the one accent. Then when you choose your conversation options it's never clear what you're actually going to say. Most times the "Sarcastic" conversation option is just rude and unfunny. ------- Got a bit further with The Minutemen. My character, Alice, helped to retake their fort and set up comms, so now the wasteland has a cool new radio station. Then she helped them set up some artillery that she can call in if she needs it. She'll probably never use it but it's nice to have the option We found a legendary something-or-other called 'Swan' which is sitting in a pond near Diamond City. Alice decided to leave it alone for now, at least until she knows what it is.
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"If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."
"...a quotation is a handy thing to have about, saving one the trouble of thinking for oneself, always a laborious business."
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