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Vital
post Mar 27 2014, 09:25 AM
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but it's not directly related to Skyrim, Oblivion or any of the older games and is a general discussion about an RPG series (The Elder Scrolls) so it seemed the best fit smile.gif

Just to clarify: This is not a "Which TES game is the best" thread. It is a thread to discuss the various features seen in any of the TES games, whether you liked them or not, how they could've been done better, why they should've left them out, what they should've had instead/as well, etc etc...

Ultimately it is a discussion about what would be the ideal Elder Scrolls Game in your opinion and how Bethesda could combine all the failures and successes of the previous games in order to create this. If you're already happy with one game, how could it be made better? (It can't be perfect tongue.gif)

Feel free to talk about different mods and games other than TES and how these could be implemented into the game as well.


To start:

I personally would love to see a combination of Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim (these being the only TES games I've played in depth) put into one game. The alien environment, number of factions, lack of hand-holding and so on from Morrowind, combined with the brilliant questlines and general feel (I can't explain this one but it just.... is) of Oblivion and the better combat, crafting and mechanical superiority of Skyrim.

This is just a brief description of some of the things I would like to see. I could write a 30 page essay on this and if this thread gets response I will put more stuff up. Anyway, what are you guy's thoughts?


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My ideal TES game is probably not feasible, but one of the main things I'd like to see is take the best out of what each game has to offer, with some tweaking and improvements. Some examples:

Arena:
-Number of miscellaneous magic items (i.e. amulets, belts, torcs, etc., not weapons or armor that can be enchanted)
-I'd like for some dungeons to be the length of those in Arena
-Bring back some of the creatures (e.g. lizard men and medusas) found in the game
-Include some of the deities from the game that have never or almost never have been mentioned since then

Daggerfall:
-A length of time passes before you can move up ranks in guilds; in Daggerfall, when you meet the requirements for a higher rank 28 in-game days had to pass before it was official (obviously not feasible in the later, scaled-down games, so I'd like for some ranks to have a 1-3 day waiting period before you rank up)
-Some services in guilds are restricted until you reach a certain rank; I'd like to see something similar applied to guilds in a new Elder Scrolls
-The character creation system (by the Nine, there is so much that can be done with that if it was brought back)

Morrowind:
-Variety of magic spells available
-Less reliance on markers (or better yet, allow for markers, a radius, and be given directions to where you need to go
-More methods of travel

Oblivion:
-Variety of miscellaneous quests (I personally felt that Oblivion did the best job in this regard)
-Pacing of the faction quests (also felt that Oblivion did this the best, for the most part)

Skyrim:
-The perk system, which I think has allowed for the best differentiation in characters' progress thus far
-Functionality of the spell system

Online:
-More emphasis on the culture of each province
-More utility to food and drink
-A lot of the elements of the crafting

Battlespire:
-I have played very little, but I know Battlespire shows some Daedric politics, which is really cool

Redguard:
-Obviously since it isn't an RPG and it has a set protagonist it is hard to come up with things that would translate well to TESVI, but I'd love for more lore on Cyrus

Can't speak on the mobile games because I'm not sure if they have anything to offer for a new TES game.


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Vital   The Ultimate TES game   Mar 27 2014, 09:25 AM
mirocu   Great thread idea! I´ve been thinking the same...   Mar 27 2014, 09:41 AM
Grits   I like what you said so far, Vital. My ultimate g...   Mar 27 2014, 10:52 AM
mirocu   Good points there, Grits :goodjob:   Mar 27 2014, 11:02 AM
Vital   Good points indeed, Grits :) I agree completely ...   Mar 27 2014, 11:33 AM
mirocu   One small thing that I read is in Arena: You can ...   Mar 27 2014, 11:47 AM
Vital   One small thing that I read is in Arena: You can...   Mar 27 2014, 12:02 PM
Grits   Some more thoughts after my first cup of coffee. ...   Mar 27 2014, 12:04 PM
ghastley   Having played a number of games with a LAN co-op m...   Mar 27 2014, 12:58 PM
McBadgere   I've wondered about something like what you ha...   Mar 27 2014, 01:54 PM
SubRosa   Like Grits, I would most like to see consequences ...   Mar 27 2014, 06:06 PM
Vital   SR, you make some great points on the factions. ...   Mar 28 2014, 12:23 PM
Callidus Thorn   While I'd love to see factions improved, I...   Mar 29 2014, 07:36 PM
Vital   Callidus, I think there needs to be some restric...   Mar 30 2014, 11:26 AM
Callidus Thorn   Callidus, I think there needs to be some restri...   Mar 30 2014, 04:40 PM
Thomas Kaira   It's rather unfortunate, but the trend for the...   Apr 1 2014, 05:04 PM
Alexander   Nice thread idea, and some great ideas here! ...   Apr 2 2014, 02:09 PM
mirocu   I could go on and on there, perhaps it's aski...   Apr 2 2014, 02:34 PM
Callidus Thorn   I could go on and on there, perhaps it's aski...   Apr 2 2014, 02:37 PM
mirocu   It always pisses me off over at Bethsoft when som...   Apr 8 2014, 08:07 AM
Vital   [quote name='Callidus Thorn' post='217920' date='...   Apr 8 2014, 09:48 AM
mirocu   Maybe you're right, 'rocu. A perfect game...   Apr 8 2014, 09:53 AM
Callidus Thorn   However I'd like to see the TES games made to...   Apr 8 2014, 10:06 AM
mirocu   I no longer consider myself part of the TES fanba...   Apr 8 2014, 10:12 AM
Callidus Thorn   What I'd really like to see brought back to TE...   Apr 8 2014, 10:39 AM
Vital   I still enjoyed Skyrim, despite many of the change...   Apr 8 2014, 11:07 AM
Acadian   I want reins on horses (like Oblivion didn't h...   Apr 8 2014, 12:50 PM
Vital   I want reins on horses (like Oblivion didn't ...   Apr 8 2014, 01:12 PM
Grits   Oh, horses! I would also like mounts and anima...   Apr 8 2014, 01:15 PM
Vital   A follower command for Use This Horse would make ...   Apr 8 2014, 01:21 PM
Jacki Dice   The perfect TES game? That isn't Morrowind? :P...   Jan 27 2015, 12:59 AM
Destri Melarg   My ultimate TES game would look something like thi...   Jan 29 2015, 12:23 AM
gpstr   There's one and only one thing that I really w...   Apr 2 2015, 01:15 AM
Destri Melarg   There's one and only one thing that I really ...   Apr 3 2015, 07:33 PM
ghastley   There's one and only one thing that I really ...   Apr 3 2015, 08:55 PM
gpstr   Here are two significant facts about Todd Howard: ...   Apr 3 2015, 09:29 PM
Acadian   I play really for the 'sandbox' element. ...   Apr 3 2015, 10:27 PM
Winter Wolf   Yeah, there has certainly been a step backwards wi...   Apr 4 2015, 01:34 AM
gpstr   Skyrim has sold over 20 million copies. It would...   Apr 4 2015, 03:46 AM
SubRosa   I agree with everything you said gpstr. I even rec...   Apr 4 2015, 05:05 AM
Renee   I expect that the next TES game will not even ha...   Apr 5 2015, 01:48 AM
gpstr   I agree - indies are the future of gaming, at leas...   Apr 4 2015, 05:23 PM
Winter Wolf   It has been years since I considered ES a role pla...   Apr 5 2015, 07:38 AM
gpstr   It is the character design at the start of each E...   Apr 5 2015, 08:56 PM
Winter Wolf   Well... I have to say that I couldn't care le...   Apr 6 2015, 12:58 AM
haute ecole rider   After sitting down and reading through the last se...   Apr 6 2015, 12:48 AM
Acadian   I will say that I like TES better than D&D whe...   Apr 6 2015, 01:09 AM
gpstr   @haute ecole rider - I just have to say that I DET...   Apr 6 2015, 03:17 AM
Winter Wolf   I guess the problem that I see is that I can play ...   Apr 6 2015, 11:17 AM
SubRosa   Long before my days of computer gaming, I played p...   Apr 6 2015, 06:50 PM
ghastley   Good point about the "unallocated points at s...   Apr 6 2015, 07:17 PM
gpstr   It's a fact of life, and thus of a roleplayed ...   Apr 6 2015, 07:32 PM
Winter Wolf   I have no idea how it is in Skyrim. That's ...   Apr 7 2015, 11:24 AM
gpstr   The problem with your second paragraph is that we...   Apr 7 2015, 04:17 PM
Burnt Sierra   I say that all that's necessary is to design...   Apr 7 2015, 06:28 PM
mALX   I say that all that's necessary is to desig...   Apr 7 2015, 07:28 PM
Destri Melarg   My two cents: It has been years since I consider...   Apr 7 2015, 11:04 PM
SubRosa   This seems like an empty gripe when you consider ...   Apr 8 2015, 05:48 PM
Winter Wolf   I like this idea and will certainly love to see i...   Apr 8 2015, 11:14 AM
gpstr   That is certainly an impressive list. But I fail...   Apr 9 2015, 06:58 PM
Winter Wolf   As but one example - Dawn the Breton. She uses m...   Apr 11 2015, 01:51 AM
Callidus Thorn   I have to say, I agree with a lot of what gpstr...   Apr 8 2015, 05:49 PM
Acadian   As far as skill management goes, I'm delighted...   Apr 8 2015, 06:10 PM
SubRosa   The real challenge is that if you put 10 players ...   Apr 8 2015, 06:20 PM
Destri Melarg   The trouble there is that every member of each ra...   Apr 8 2015, 08:21 PM
SubRosa   So it sounds like what you're really put off ...   Apr 8 2015, 08:51 PM
Destri Melarg   Not steamroll. I don't expect that until the ...   Apr 8 2015, 09:45 PM
SubRosa   Okay well, since you brought up Bioware, how abou...   Apr 8 2015, 10:37 PM
Winter Wolf   It has been very interesting to read the posts her...   Apr 9 2015, 12:37 PM
haute ecole rider   For me role-playing is storytelling. I take a char...   Apr 9 2015, 06:13 PM
Destri Melarg   CLICKY I am curious though, how do you decide ma...   Apr 9 2015, 09:54 PM
bobg   I just got to this thread and the idea of defining...   Feb 14 2016, 12:41 AM
ImperialSnob   Hand development over to Obsidian :P   Apr 3 2017, 07:47 PM
ghastley   I have issues with the way that Daggerfall did cha...   May 5 2017, 03:52 PM
Decrepit   This topic is dangerous for me, as my "ideal...   May 7 2017, 09:03 PM
SubRosa   I think the ultimate TES game would be coded by so...   May 7 2017, 10:14 PM
RaderOfTheLostArk   I have issues with the way that Daggerfall did ch...   May 8 2017, 02:26 PM
Decrepit   Part of me does want a world the size of Daggerfa...   May 9 2017, 01:46 AM
RaderOfTheLostArk   Part of me does want a world the size of Daggerf...   May 9 2017, 08:28 PM


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