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mALX |
Aug 7 2017, 02:29 PM
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Ancient

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On the Game of Thrones front = I continue to be disappointed in the show this season. The acting is even beginning to fail; they have started just delivering lines at us instead of making us believe it. This season they are cramming scenes together instead of weaving a story; not to mention impossible distances are crossed in minutes and everyone has some omnipotent knowledge of everything happening all over the universe despite it is medieval times. It has become ridiculous, and so "Hollywood" that it is falling just short of eye-rolling. I'd have to call this the worst season so far, imho. Also, they are resorting to cheezy tricks like doing all their filming in darkened rooms so you are straining to see everything. How is it daylight for the scene of Jamie on his horse, but dark to see the fires the dragon just laid down against the night sky? Then back to Jamie in daylight on horseback, then back to the night shot of the flames? What is wrong with this picture? They have totally suspended believability in this show to cram scenes at us; and it seems even the actors aren't feeling it anymore from their wooden delivering of their lines. That stilted meeting between Arya and Sansa? WTF?
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Darkness Eternal |
Aug 7 2017, 03:49 PM
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Master

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QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 7 2017, 02:29 PM)  On the Game of Thrones front = I continue to be disappointed in the show this season. The acting is even beginning to fail; they have started just delivering lines at us instead of making us believe it. This season they are cramming scenes together instead of weaving a story; not to mention impossible distances are crossed in minutes and everyone has some omnipotent knowledge of everything happening all over the universe despite it is medieval times. It has become ridiculous, and so "Hollywood" that it is falling just short of eye-rolling. I'd have to call this the worst season so far, imho. Also, they are resorting to cheezy tricks like doing all their filming in darkened rooms so you are straining to see everything. How is it daylight for the scene of Jamie on his horse, but dark to see the fires the dragon just laid down against the night sky? Then back to Jamie in daylight on horseback, then back to the night shot of the flames? What is wrong with this picture? They have totally suspended believability in this show to cram scenes at us; and it seems even the actors aren't feeling it anymore from their wooden delivering of their lines. That stilted meeting between Arya and Sansa? WTF?  I agree entirely, especially with Arya and Sansa's reunion after three years!! One thing though I disagree on: teleportation. The simple answer is that a lot more time elapsed than it first appeared. This has been the case in the show all along which has eaten up much time than the novels. More than a month elapses in the very first episode of the series. By the end of Season 5 Myrcella Baratheon says that she had spent “years” living in Dorne, where she was sent towards the end of Season 2. Even in the fourth book, GRR Martin mentioned, "Some chapters cover a day, some only an hour; others might span a fortnight, a month, half a year." From this, you can tell that the narrative as presented in the books is not strictly sequential - some things take place simultaneously, and the gap between each episode can't be assumed to be the same either. How do we make the leap from the book to the show? Simple - the first season followed so closely to the first book that we can assume that timelines are depicted in a similar fashion. Season 7 comes along and I don't think the writers are going to devote an entire episode of Jon on a boat to Winterfell, or Varys going to and fro Dorne. Not even the story can pickup on their arrival.
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And yet I am, and live—like vapours tossed. I long for scenes where man hath never trod A place where woman never smiled or wept There to abide with my Creator, God, And sleep as I in childhood sweetly slept, Untroubling and untroubled where I lie The grass below—above the vaulted sky.”
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mALX |
Aug 7 2017, 05:16 PM
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Ancient

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QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Aug 7 2017, 10:49 AM)  QUOTE(mALX @ Aug 7 2017, 02:29 PM)  On the Game of Thrones front = I continue to be disappointed in the show this season. The acting is even beginning to fail; they have started just delivering lines at us instead of making us believe it. This season they are cramming scenes together instead of weaving a story; not to mention impossible distances are crossed in minutes and everyone has some omnipotent knowledge of everything happening all over the universe despite it is medieval times. It has become ridiculous, and so "Hollywood" that it is falling just short of eye-rolling. I'd have to call this the worst season so far, imho. Also, they are resorting to cheezy tricks like doing all their filming in darkened rooms so you are straining to see everything. How is it daylight for the scene of Jamie on his horse, but dark to see the fires the dragon just laid down against the night sky? Then back to Jamie in daylight on horseback, then back to the night shot of the flames? What is wrong with this picture? They have totally suspended believability in this show to cram scenes at us; and it seems even the actors aren't feeling it anymore from their wooden delivering of their lines. That stilted meeting between Arya and Sansa? WTF?  I agree entirely, especially with Arya and Sansa's reunion after three years!! One thing though I disagree on: teleportation. The simple answer is that a lot more time elapsed than it first appeared. This has been the case in the show all along which has eaten up much time than the novels. More than a month elapses in the very first episode of the series. By the end of Season 5 Myrcella Baratheon says that she had spent “years” living in Dorne, where she was sent towards the end of Season 2. Even in the fourth book, GRR Martin mentioned, "Some chapters cover a day, some only an hour; others might span a fortnight, a month, half a year." From this, you can tell that the narrative as presented in the books is not strictly sequential - some things take place simultaneously, and the gap between each episode can't be assumed to be the same either. How do we make the leap from the book to the show? Simple - the first season followed so closely to the first book that we can assume that timelines are depicted in a similar fashion. Season 7 comes along and I don't think the writers are going to devote an entire episode of Jon on a boat to Winterfell, or Varys going to and fro Dorne. Not even the story can pickup on their arrival. I agree with some of the timelines being shortened; but when in the same episode they jump from showing Jamie leaving one Province to return to KL; and he has a caravan of their goods = and mysteriously the dragon killing weapon that Q was showing Cersei in KL last episode. Meanwhile Dany not only just learns of this; but manages mustering the Rohirrim Dothraki to the exact spot on the road he is at. We know how the dragons made it, but a whole army and their horses? And then in the same scene where Dany just found out about it; they pan to the beach and Jon meeting Reek Theon; and Jon says Dany is gone. Next scene the Dothraki army is attacking Jamie. No scenes of an army preparing to leave. And while the battle is taking place, Tyrion (who was just at that beach watching Theon and Jon's meeting = is suddenly right there at the battlefield just watching it all happen (when it is supposed to be happening down in the south) - and he can see so clearly that he is commenting on Jamie's thoughts before and after Jamie charging the dragon! I understand cutting some time out because you can only show so much of someone on a ship; but to never see her and an army plus horses leaving the castle? That is what is making it disjointed; they are cutting out some scenes that shouldn't have been cut, and covering it by a stupid cramming of Theon's arrival and Jon saying Dany "is gone." They didn't even show Dany coming to the decision that she was going to act; they jumped to her THERE from Jon advising her not to and her looking like she listened to him. And if they are going to try to make Tyrion or Varys the mole in her camp who is telling everyone their plans; then they are negating everything that GRRM built about their characters through all the previous seasons. I'm not the only one that is noticing all the character changes, this quote from "The Verge" magazine online agrees: QUOTE Last night’s episode plodded along through dozens of weakly written conversations between characters with no clear motivations, goals, or consistent personalities, and then erupted into a full-scale dragon blitzkrieg.
And, all ll I have to say about all the omnipotent knowledge in this show is = those darn Ravens must have bionic wings or a jet engine between their legs! This post has been edited by mALX: Aug 7 2017, 09:17 PM
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