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Nov 25 2018, 05:51 AM
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I read this in the comments at ign- 58 hours in and I'm ready to stop playing. Fallout 3 removed the Turn-Based Combat. Fallout: New Vegas removed Bethesda's Relevancy as a development team. Fallout 4 removed Roleplaying. Fallout 76 removed Story and NPCs. ...can't wait to see what they remove next. I guess that says everything. ![laugh.gif](style_emoticons/sinders/laugh.gif)
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Nov 26 2018, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(Winter Wolf @ Nov 24 2018, 11:51 PM) ![*](style_images/tower/post_snapback.gif) Fallout 4 removed Roleplaying.
Please don't take this as me attacking you (I don't know how much you agree with that commenter anyway), but I loathe the argument that Fallout 4 is not a roleplaying game. It's the same that many people say about Skyrim, or Oblivion, or even Morrowind if you dig deep enough. It is absolutely a roleplaying game. If you want to argue that it isn't what an RPG should be or that it doesn't do RPG mechanics as well as other games, that's one thing. But I find the vast majority of the time that arguments about RPGs not actually being RPGs are because people don't like the game in the first place. This post has been edited by RaderOfTheLostArk: Nov 26 2018, 11:21 PM
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Nov 27 2018, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Nov 26 2018, 10:21 PM) ![*](style_images/tower/post_snapback.gif) QUOTE(Winter Wolf @ Nov 24 2018, 11:51 PM) ![*](style_images/tower/post_snapback.gif) Fallout 4 removed Roleplaying.
Please don't take this as me attacking you (I don't know how much you agree with that commenter anyway), but I loathe the argument that Fallout 4 is not a roleplaying game. It's the same that many people say about Skyrim, or Oblivion, or even Morrowind if you dig deep enough. It is absolutely a roleplaying game. If you want to argue that it isn't what an RPG should be or that it doesn't do RPG mechanics as well as other games, that's one thing. But I find the vast majority of the time that arguments about RPGs not actually being RPGs are because people don't like the game in the first place. I absolutely agree with your main point, and FO4 is absolutely a role playing game, but I think the main issues that RPers had with the game was the first portion in which your character is told that they're married and have a child - immediately setting your character into a specific slot. Compared to previous Bethesda games where your characters aren't given pre-existing backstories of too much consequence, FO3 says you have a father and NV says you're a courier - much easier to work into RP. Also having a voiced character.
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The game should always just be about SP.
You ha... Nov 23 2018, 01:51 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) Renee
. It's the same that many people say about Sk... Nov 26 2018, 11:44 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) mirocu
I read this in the comments at ign-
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Yeah I hear ya, Khajiit.
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[quote name='TheCheshireKhajiit' post='309842' da... Dec 3 2018, 03:21 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) Renee
Here. This article explains it pretty well.
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[quote name='TheCheshireKhajiit' post='309947' da... Dec 4 2018, 05:53 PM hazmick Also, even if people wanted to buy anything with t... Dec 1 2018, 04:29 AM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) TheCheshireKhajiit
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It'll be a while before I play, but I have a ... Dec 3 2018, 09:40 PM SubRosa More good news on the Fallout 76 front Dec 6 2018, 10:34 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) TheCheshireKhajiit
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Bethy getting closer and closer to a product I... Mar 26 2019, 06:52 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) Kane [quote name='Kane' post='314150' date='Mar 26 201... Mar 27 2019, 01:40 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) Winter Wolf
Definitely. I also read that a future update will... Apr 4 2019, 10:29 AM RaderOfTheLostArk It's sounding more like something I'd get,... Mar 27 2019, 03:04 PM Grits Hmm. Now I'm paying attention to Fallout76. Th... Mar 27 2019, 09:48 PM Kane Installed last night. Only played for a little bit... Aug 18 2019, 03:54 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) RaderOfTheLostArk
Installed last night. Only played for a little bi... Aug 20 2019, 08:01 PM![](style_images/tower/to_down_pipe.gif) ![](style_images/tower/spacer.gif) Kane
Installed last night. Only played for a little b... Aug 21 2019, 12:46 PM Renee Sweet, I am glad one of us is trying this game. :) Aug 18 2019, 04:38 PM TheCheshireKhajiit Can second that the launcher is not bad. Works fin... Aug 21 2019, 02:28 PM Kane You also get PC access to Fallout Shelter, if you ... Aug 21 2019, 03:09 PM Decrepit Been a while since this forum was posted in. Was w... Oct 30 2019, 11:28 PM SubRosa I think Bethesda was feeling jealous of all the go... Oct 31 2019, 12:03 AM TheCheshireKhajiit Yeah Bethesda Game Studios are so far out of touch... Oct 31 2019, 03:54 AM SubRosa It was a train wreck from the very start. An mmo w... Oct 31 2019, 04:23 AM Renee I couldn't watch the video, those guys immedia... Oct 31 2019, 12:57 PM RaderOfTheLostArk
so can smile and remain above it all.
so I can... Oct 31 2019, 03:05 PM RaderOfTheLostArk Fallout 76 was just released on Steam a couple day... Apr 17 2020, 12:49 AM SubRosa Wasn't Fallout 76 always on Steam?
Ok, I just... Apr 17 2020, 01:00 AM
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