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mALX |
Apr 17 2019, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 16 2019, 10:48 PM) Anyone watch the final season premiere?
ME!!! Can we discuss spoilers yet? Because I'm dying to know 2 things: 1. and 2. There were a few other places I loved, but I was kind of disappointed that D & D felt the need to info dump in catching the audience up on all the players in the show, I mean = we aren't dumb; we remember the cast and storyline! This post has been edited by mALX: Apr 17 2019, 04:21 PM
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Apr 17 2019, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 17 2019, 10:19 AM) QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 16 2019, 10:48 PM) Anyone watch the final season premiere?
ME!!! Can we discuss spoilers yet? Because I'm dying to know 2 things: 1. and 2. There were a few other places I loved, but I was kind of disappointed that D & D felt the need to info dump in catching the audience up on all the players in the show, I mean = we aren't dumb; we remember the cast and storyline! 1. 2. Khajiit liked !!! This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Apr 17 2019, 06:38 PM
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mALX |
Apr 17 2019, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 17 2019, 01:33 PM) QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 17 2019, 10:19 AM) QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 16 2019, 10:48 PM) Anyone watch the final season premiere?
ME!!! Can we discuss spoilers yet? Because I'm dying to know 2 things: 1. and 2. There were a few other places I loved, but I was kind of disappointed that D & D felt the need to info dump in catching the audience up on all the players in the show, I mean = we aren't dumb; we remember the cast and storyline! 1. 2. Khajiit liked !!! Right? And that Umber kid left Winterfell in one scene and was a dead Wight 3 scenes later; so they are less than a day away. But I really hope they wait to kill Jaime till he has helped them fight, since he has a Valerian Steel sword, lol. By the way, where did Arya get the Valerian Steel sword she is having turned into a lance to kill the ice dragon with? Was that Jon Snow's? (because it couldn't have been Jaime's yet; he didn't arrive till after that scene). I know Sam had one, Jon Snow had one, and Jaime had one. (and if I'm not mistaken, Arya's Needle is Valerian Steel). By the way, did you get to see any of the Extras from this season? If so, make SURE you see "The Crypts of Winterfell," and friggin' freeze the film on the last scene in that vid! It is only a couple minutes long. I stopped the film 3 times at the end and looked VERY closely. It is a HUGE foreshadowing!!!! (and bone-chilling!!!) This post has been edited by mALX: Apr 17 2019, 11:35 PM
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Apr 17 2019, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 17 2019, 02:07 PM) By the way, where did Aria get the Valerian Steel sword she is having turned into a lance to kill the ice dragon with? Was that Jon Snow's? (because it couldn't have been Jaime's yet; he didn't arrive till after that scene). I know Sam had one, Jon Snow had one, and Jaime had one. (and if I'm not mistaken, Aria's Needle is Valerian Steel).
Arya’s Needle is referred to in both the books and show as “castle forged steel”, that is, steel forged in the smithy of a smith under the direct employ of a major lord. Khajiit takes this to mean that it’s superior to most commercial products, but not as good as Valyrian. Khajiit believes that the weapon you are referring to is the Valyrian steel dagger that was used to try and kill Bran waay back in season 1 that somehow came into Arya’s possession (this one doesn’t remember how that came to be). This post has been edited by TheCheshireKhajiit: Apr 17 2019, 09:04 PM
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"Family is an odd thing, is it not? Defined by blood, separated by blood, joined by blood. In the end, it's all just blood." -Dhaunayne Aundae
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mALX |
Apr 17 2019, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 17 2019, 04:03 PM) QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 17 2019, 02:07 PM) By the way, where did Arya get the Valerian Steel sword she is having turned into a lance to kill the ice dragon with? Was that Jon Snow's? (because it couldn't have been Jaime's yet; he didn't arrive till after that scene). I know Sam had one, Jon Snow had one, and Jaime had one. (and if I'm not mistaken, Arya's Needle is Valerian Steel).
Arya’s Needle is referred to in both the books and show as “castle forged steel”, that is, steel forged in the smithy of a smith under the direct employ of a major lord. Khajiit takes this to mean that it’s superior to most commercial products, but not as good as Valyrian. Khajiit believes that the weapon you are referring to is the Valyrian steel dagger that was used to try and kill Bran waay back in season 1 that somehow came into Arya’s possession (this one doesn’t remember how that came to be). I'll have to watch season one again to see when Jon made Needle for her whether she looked at it and said it was Valerian Steel. I thought she did. But I know it isn't Needle she is having melted down to make the lance = it was a greatsword, like Jon Snow carries. This post has been edited by mALX: Apr 17 2019, 11:33 PM
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TheCheshireKhajiit |
Apr 17 2019, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 17 2019, 03:21 PM) I'll have to watch season one again to see when Jon made Needle for her whether she looked at it and said it was Valerian Steel. I thought she did. But I know it isn't Needle she is having melted down to make the lance = it was a greatsword, like Jon Snow carries.
Needle was forged by Mikken, Winterfell’s smith, back before the bad times. Khajiit believes Jon was the one who commissioned it for her though.
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mALX |
Apr 17 2019, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Apr 17 2019, 04:32 PM) QUOTE(mALX @ Apr 17 2019, 03:21 PM) I'll have to watch season one again to see when Jon made Needle for her whether she looked at it and said it was Valerian Steel. I thought she did. But I know it isn't Needle she is having melted down to make the lance = it was a greatsword, like Jon Snow carries.
Needle was forged by Mikken, Winterfell’s smith, back before the bad times. Khajiit believes Jon was the one who commissioned it for her though. I know Jon Snow commissioned Needle for Arya; just didn't remember if it was Valerian Steel or not (and by the way, I know my spelling is off on some words and names from the show, lol. Sorry about that). Anyway, I watched it again, and Needle isn't Valerian Steel; but there are a lot more Valerian swords out there than I knew about. I knew Jaime gave his to Brienne of Tarth and kept Joffrey's = those were the two swords made from Ned's huge Valerian greatsword. And I knew the one Sam took from his home was Valerian; and the dagger that Arya has now (that the assassin tried to kill Bran with). Jon Snow got his from Mormont. But I looked it up, and it turns out that all the great houses of the seven kingdoms each had one; so there are more floating around than we have been shown in the show. However = that doesn't tell us which one Arya is having melted down right now, lol. Did you get to see the "Crypts of Winterfell?" You absolutely have to see it if you don't mind some foreshadowing! QUOTE(Darkness Eternal @ Apr 17 2019, 06:21 PM) I feel like the episode could have used another 10 minutes throughout to flesh out some dialogue. Certain scenes between characters seemed rushed.
Agreed 100% on that. D & D are terrible for rushing at things; and also for feeling the audience needs to be TOLD stuff instead of showing us and letting us decipher it. (example: they had everyone around Jon Snow TELLING him that they noticed his interest in Dani without showing the audience one single scene that showed him being interested). They are either really heavy handed or they are racing and totally skipping over places where depth is absolutely needed = like that scene you brought up. He never even tells Jon his parents were married; I guess Jon was supposed to get that from Sam saying he was never a bastard. This post has been edited by mALX: Apr 17 2019, 11:30 PM
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