CyberPunk 2077, New RPG by CD Projekt Red Options

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

So anyone here interested in this game?

[RaderOfTheLostArk]

This might be better than the game

Too bad for Keanu, that he hitched himself to this. He deserved a better game to be associated with, like Red Dead 2.

That first comment though. "Cykapunk 2077." Lmao. It's funny that, after you read the title of the post, none of what happens in the video is surprising at all.

I haven’t totally given up on the game. I feel that, given enough time, CDPR are going to fix it and make it into something incredible. If that never happens, well then, yeah, I was wrong. It’s just that I’ve learned that not all games that launch with rocky starts end up being terrible games.

I could say I feel bad for those who bought the game on day 1, but I don’t. Folks should know by now that games these days aren’t generally worth buying until they’ve had several rounds of patches.

Yeah, I haven't quite yet, either. And agreed on the Day One stuff, especially for these colossal AAA games. But you know how a lot of gamers are.

However...

It is not the bugs that make the think that. It is the number of people saying how shallow the game is, and how there are no real options in dialogue, or a reason to care about any of the npcs giving you quests, and things like that. I don't see that ever being fixed.

This is what concerns me as well. I'm seeing a lot of issues that are endemic to the game. Those can't be fixed in a Day One patch.

OTOH, I've also learned to be quite skeptical of some of these particular claims, like the game being "shallow" or that "your choices don't matter." Some people exaggerate those criticisms because they didn't work out quite the way they thought or wanted it to. My go-to example of this is when Morrowind fanboys claim these things about Skyrim (and to a lesser extent, Oblivion), how it is "not a real RPG," etc. when those accusations are flat-out wrong. (Skyrim could've done a much better job at showing their impact, though.)

In any case, these reviews are enough, in my eyes, to not drop $60 on the game to see if I believe these claims hold up. I wasn't going to anyway because 1) I'm a cheapskate and 2) I've got a backlog of games and only so much time to play them. Also, even though my new computer is going to have pretty good specs, I'm still concerned that it won't run the game well.

I mean, the company has posted an apology, which I linked to a few posts up, and in that apology they say they are working on patches. So, again, we’ll just have to wait and see. Or not, I can’t buy games right now anyway so it may be a good thing I’m having to wait. If it doesn’t get better, then I’ll have lost nothing.

While I don't think they had much choice, I think CDPR does deserve some credit for doing this. Not every company would be willing to do refunds, but those are mostly going to be those giant corporations that could handle the bad PR and whose games are always going to be bought en masse anyway. I don't believe that CDPR could afford to do that, even as a AAA developer, with only The Witcher 3 under their belt as a real blockbuster game.

Khajiit is right; Americans are actually kind of prudish compared to the rest of the world when it comes to nudity. In most of the places I went in Europe nudity was just a natural thing to see; and so was peeing/defecating = perfectly natural functions; no need to hide what you were doing. Children see it all as natural growing up; so don't think anything of it when they see it.

My first impression on being driven from the airport in Germany to the town we were going to live was seeing a man peeing on the side of the road facing traffic; and another sitting on a guardrail defecating with his butt facing the road so we could all see the turds dropping as we passed. (not that we wanted to; but there it was).

The TV stations; TV shows; and newspapers all had nudity without any "ratings system" or any "warnings;" and even their cartoons in the newspaper could have nude pictures edited for effect. I saw one with Hillary Clinton's head superimposed onto an actual photo of a nearly nude dominatrix; (just a studded leather garter belt on) with Bill Clinton's head superimposed over the man's head (who was on his knees with a studded leather dog collar on his neck). It was a newspaper cartoon; but it was an actual photo they had superimposed Hillary and Bill's heads onto.


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Someone customized giant appendages on their characters? Lol.

I think there needs to be a good balance with the nude content. For one, it has to fit with the setting, like Khajiit said. And while there is a certain prudishness with adult content in America that is excessive, it doesn't need to go to the exact opposite end of the spectrum. What you saw in Germany, obviously, is disgusting and unnecessary and way over-the-top. But even apart from that, I think it's misguided for certain cultures to just flaunt nudity like it isn't a big deal. But I digress.



As for the stuff like the p---- and boobs, yeah, that seems to be a sticking point for why people want the game, lol. And I'm serious. I've seen plenty of times people remark how you can put BOTH of those things on the same character.


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If there is a big sale on this game, maybe I'll try it out. But I also don't want to drop money on a game unless I have good reason to believe it'll run well on my computer. I've admittedly become a bit of a performance snob, but I don't need everything set to ultra quality with every bell and whistle like RTX and bloom and all that jazz.

This post has been edited by RaderOfTheLostArk: Dec 16 2020, 07:27 PM

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

*snip*

Yeah I’m pretty much going to do the same. Pick it up on a GOG sale sometime next year. Hopefully at a deep discount.