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Dantrag |
Jul 26 2005, 03:57 PM
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What do you guys think about drugs? Do you think they should remain illegal or become legalized? I agree that drugs can ruin your life, but so can alcohol, and that's legal. And honsetly, I think that alcohol is more harmful than marijuana. Alcohol makes a lot of people angry and violent when they are drunk, but people on marijuana are just relaxed and happy. I just want to know where the government draws the line for this stuff.
I think marijuana shoul;d be legalized, for the reason above, and for the fact that it would give the government a lot more money, and open up new jobs at the 'marijuana farm'. I think the other drugs should stay illegal though - they mess you up pretty bad, from what I hear.
(This is based on USA laws...don't know too much about other countries' policies on narcotics.)
PS - I do not smoke weed, I am speaking from seeing other people high and drunk.
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Aki |
Jul 27 2005, 08:15 PM
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Joined: 10-March 05

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QUOTE Alcohol makes a lot of people angry and violent when they are drunk, but people on marijuana are just relaxed and happy.
oh yes, thoswe stoners seem nice and relaxed while stoned, but when they can't get their fix, ohohohohoho. You'll see the violence. Addicts will do anything to get their fix.
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stargelman |
Jul 27 2005, 08:17 PM
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Senor Snore

Joined: 8-February 05
From: Onderon

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QUOTE(Aki @ Jul 27 2005, 08:15 PM) oh yes, thoswe stoners seem nice and relaxed while stoned, but when they can't get their fix, ohohohohoho. You'll see the violence. Addicts will do anything to get their fix. I think we're a little confused here. You must be thinking of herroin junkies.
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stargelman |
Jul 30 2005, 09:03 AM
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Senor Snore

Joined: 8-February 05
From: Onderon

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QUOTE(Aki @ Jul 29 2005, 03:52 AM) No, thats pratically any drug addict. The body and mind devolp a dependance on the drug over time. The more addictive, the less time it takes for this bond to devolp. The quick it devolps and the longer one uses the drug, the harder it is to break the bond. Well, you implied that people that smoke dope turn violent when they don't have any, I think that's a pretty big misconception. There's several important differences between the consumation of hard drugs such as heroin, crack etc and 'soft' drugs, such as cannabis products. The first big difference is the 'users': crack and heroin are consumed by people that have no perspective, that are 'at the bottom'. They don't usually have a job and thus no source of income, and sometimes turn to crime in order to get their fix. They do that because there is a physical addiction that is more or less driving them nuts when they don't get theirs. Dope is a different thing. As others have explained, it is not physically addictive, but mentally. As a result, the effects of withdrawal are not quite as severe, and thus the pressure to "get more" is lower by orders of magnitude. Another important difference is the price. While hard drugs are hard to come by and often incredibly expensive, 'soft drugs' are rather cheap. What a junkie spends on his daily fix will last a dopehat for weeks. Why is the price lower? Because cannabis products are much more accepted and used by a much larger portion of the population - all ages, all professions. It is also true that cannabis can not only be smoked, but also eaten. AFAIK, this is not the prefered method though as results are less predictable and take longer. Still, if you think about whether or not to allow it for medical purposes, that is an important factor. As you may have figured by now, I'm a proponent of the legalization of cannabis products. I think they are a good alternative to alcohol, which has inredibly damaging effects to the brain and liver. However, a few things need to be made absolutely clear: NO kind of drug should be accessible to minors. This includes alcohol, cigarettes and cannabis products. Every drug has the potential of abuse. No drug is harmless. That is why -no matter what kind of drug is used- it should only be used responsibly, in small quantities. That is true for cananbis, alcohol and tobacco as well as other drugs such as cofffein. Some drugs cannot be controlled, and should not be touched at all. Those are illegal for a good reason. This includes heroin, crack and cocaine.
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Channler |
Jul 30 2005, 03:49 PM
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Master

Joined: 20-March 05
From: Nashville, North Carolina

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QUOTE(stargelman @ Jul 30 2005, 04:03 AM) As you may have figured by now, I'm a proponent of the legalization of cannabis products. I think they are a good alternative to alcohol, which has inredibly damaging effects to the brain and liver. However, a few things need to be made absolutely clear: Its been proven that controlled use of alcohol, 1 glass of red wine a night, has very positive affects on the brain and many docters recomend it.. But, thats not in excess.. Cannabis might not be bad for you, but I bet if you smoke it too much youd see some bad results, just like smoking to much, just like drinking too much, JUST LIKE EATING TO MUCH Everything thing is bad if not controlled
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Fuzzy Knight |
Jul 30 2005, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(Channler @ Jul 30 2005, 04:49 PM) Its been proven that controlled use of alcohol, 1 glass of red wine a night, has very positive affects on the brain and many docters recomend it.. But, thats not in excess.. Cannabis might not be bad for you, but I bet if you smoke it too much youd see some bad results, just like smoking to much, just like drinking too much, JUST LIKE EATING TO MUCH Everything thing is bad if not controlled Heart too I think... 
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1. see 2.
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Im sorry but you are wrong.
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