Abortion, Legal or Illiegal, poll and debate? Options

[Slayer of Cliffracers]

This is my position........

Abortion, unless done purely for the purposes of offsetting an imediate threat to the mother's life (choice 2) is murder by definition. Murder is the deliberate and pre-meditated killing of another human that is not done in self-defense. Upon what definition does a human fetus not constitute a human. It is the form taken by a human life at a certain stage of it's growth and development, it is not any other species therefore it is a human life. To draw an arbitery line in the sand at a certain point of the growth and development of a human life is ridiculous.

Sure the embryo at very early stages of it's development isn't conscious, but so what? Are we to excuse everyone who kills his victims say when in deep sleep, or while knocked out, on the basic that since they aren't presently conscious, they aren't officially human. The position of the embryo is exactly the same as the sleeping person, though they aren't conscious at present they will become so at a later point as their development reaches whatever mysterious point that they need to get too to become conscious. The fetus is thus 100% alive and 100% human and the process of abortion makes it 100% dead and 100% human, hence abortion is murder.

What about the other pro-abortion argument that the embryo/fetus constitutes a part of the woman's body. This doesn't make sense either. The embryo/fetus has a seperate genetic code (unless it's a clone) from it's mother and though it is totally dependant on it's mother for everything still constitutes a seperate entity inside the mothers body. If the fetus is considered part of the mother, that would mean that she can logically claim to be a bacterium, a virus, an intestinal worm or an ameoba, as all of these could also be inside her, along with millions of other parisites.

So abortion is murder.

[MerGirl]

Well, I'm not sure about this whole thing, since I had never experienced pregnancy nor never had an abortion.

But, I think the woman/girl should at least get to choose. I heard that 'protection' is not fool-proof and accidents happen. Some people just keeping having babies no matter what they try to do to prevent it. *shrugs*

Anyway, I support abortion at the very beginning, before the baby is not even formed much yet.

Oh! I've heard that some girls will do abortion in dangerous ways, such as using knitting needles (and I think coat hangers, not sure?), endangering themselves in the process.

Also, I worry if the mother keeps the baby, what happens if the mother/father/family is abusive? Or the family just hates the kid?

What if the family is too poor to even feed the developing child? Or if the family lives in a very poor, cruel and violent neighborhood? That would be much more sad...

(After all, believe or not, America does have homeless/poor people. And child abuse does happen.)

Anyway, I vote abortion legal to some extent, since this world is way too over-populated, and I hate it when people care more about the unborn baby than the mental/emotional/physical being of living, breathing adults, pregnant mothers in particular.

This is my opinion, of course.

This post has been edited by MerGirl: Aug 5 2005, 12:42 AM