Abortion, Legal or Illiegal, poll and debate? Options

[Slayer of Cliffracers]

This is my position........

Abortion, unless done purely for the purposes of offsetting an imediate threat to the mother's life (choice 2) is murder by definition. Murder is the deliberate and pre-meditated killing of another human that is not done in self-defense. Upon what definition does a human fetus not constitute a human. It is the form taken by a human life at a certain stage of it's growth and development, it is not any other species therefore it is a human life. To draw an arbitery line in the sand at a certain point of the growth and development of a human life is ridiculous.

Sure the embryo at very early stages of it's development isn't conscious, but so what? Are we to excuse everyone who kills his victims say when in deep sleep, or while knocked out, on the basic that since they aren't presently conscious, they aren't officially human. The position of the embryo is exactly the same as the sleeping person, though they aren't conscious at present they will become so at a later point as their development reaches whatever mysterious point that they need to get too to become conscious. The fetus is thus 100% alive and 100% human and the process of abortion makes it 100% dead and 100% human, hence abortion is murder.

What about the other pro-abortion argument that the embryo/fetus constitutes a part of the woman's body. This doesn't make sense either. The embryo/fetus has a seperate genetic code (unless it's a clone) from it's mother and though it is totally dependant on it's mother for everything still constitutes a seperate entity inside the mothers body. If the fetus is considered part of the mother, that would mean that she can logically claim to be a bacterium, a virus, an intestinal worm or an ameoba, as all of these could also be inside her, along with millions of other parisites.

So abortion is murder.

[gamer10]

You forget there are fathers too.

They don't have the experience of pregnancy, but the child is also theirs.

There should be a nation wide vote of married people to determine the decision in the U.S.

*shrugs* That's enough of this topic for me.

[MerGirl]

You forget there are fathers too.

They don't have the experience of pregnancy, but the child is also theirs.

There should be a nation wide vote of married people to determine the decision in the U.S.

*shrugs* That's enough of this topic for me.

Shoot! I forgot about the fathers too! (At least, the loyal ones, anyway). *slaps forehead* Well, I'm not sure if they should have more of a say or not. Well, like all marriage fights, they will have to discuss this kind of decision seriously, and see all of the pros and cons of either descision and the long-term effects.

Also, not just married people, but what about single mothers, too?

*shrugs* Yeah, this is enough of this subject for me, too. I just wanted to get some things off of my chest right now. Especially after my bad day at school today.