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DoomedOne
post Sep 8 2005, 12:37 AM
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So a tiny thing brought up in the main forums are the ideas of moral values.

In The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever by Stephen R. Donaldson the main character chooses not to accept this dream world as reality and therefore finds it okay to rape a young girl.

In the main forum this topic was slashed and flamed in all three threads it made an appearance because people did not understand the idea. It's simple, if you accept a world as fake, whether you realize you're dreaming, or you're in a video game, do the moral laws you would usually uphold yourself to still stand? Would you suddenly find it okay to exercise the most evil, atrocious side of your personality and find it pleasurable, to your character, at least, to murder and mutilate?

This question has a bigger purpose, but first I'd like some people's opinions on where they stand when it comes to morality and video games. If they created a video game where the suffering of your victims looked parallel to if you were performing the act in real life, would you still be able to go through with it?

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Zelda_Zealot
post Sep 8 2005, 04:06 AM
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Unless my life (Or the life of someone I care about) is at stake I would not kill someone,
even in Morrowind I approach someone to see if they are hostile before attacking. It is a rare accorence where I kill random NPCs in any game, only if I am in a extremly bad mood, and only because it is fake.

So I guess you could say that even if I knew this world was fake I would still be a nice guy and not go on mass killing sprees. I hold onto my morals tightly and would never lose them in any realistic enviroment.


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post Sep 8 2005, 04:10 AM
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QUOTE(Zelda_Zealot @ Sep 7 2005, 08:06 PM)
Unless my life (Or the life of someone I care about) is at stake I would not kill someone,
even in Morrowind I approach someone to see if they are hostile before attacking. It is a rare accorence where I kill random NPCs in any game, only if I am in a extremly bad mood, and only because it is fake.

So I guess you could say that even if I knew this world was fake I would still be a nice guy and not go on mass killing sprees. I hold onto my morals tightly and would never lose them in any realistic enviroment.
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It all really depends on which game and what char I'm playing really. Like it is almost impossible to not kill someone in a GTA 3-SA game (belive me I have tried) yet In Morrowind it all depends on who I am.
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DoomedOne   The Unbeliever   Sep 8 2005, 12:37 AM
Soulseeker3.0   I don't know, Of coure in real life, right now...   Sep 8 2005, 12:45 AM
ShogunSniper   The reason I play videogames is to do things that ...   Sep 8 2005, 01:18 AM
DoomedOne   No one else has an opinion?   Sep 8 2005, 03:39 AM
Intestinal Chaos   I find this topic very interesting. I have ponderd...   Sep 8 2005, 03:41 AM
Dantrag   there's a balance in this somewhere. Ex. I d...   Sep 8 2005, 03:52 AM
Intestinal Chaos   Exactly my thoughts.   Sep 8 2005, 04:02 AM
Chumbaniya   I don't think that morality applies when playi...   Sep 8 2005, 12:11 PM
ED 209   A game is a game is a game. No matter how realisti...   Sep 8 2005, 06:58 PM
Megil Tel-Zeke   ah morality issues, such fun complicated and shady...   Sep 8 2005, 07:51 PM
DoomedOne   In the book that I mentioned, a man chose to accep...   Sep 9 2005, 01:55 AM
Soulseeker3.0   ouch or Ah is what I would normally say in that p...   Sep 9 2005, 02:20 AM
Redvsbluefan0   This is somewhat the same question to ask if that ...   Sep 9 2005, 07:48 AM
Daikirai   If my actions had no real consiquence, I can imagi...   Sep 10 2005, 12:59 AM
Kindred Spirit   I roleplay in every game I play that it is really ...   Oct 12 2005, 05:46 AM
DoomedOne   I read it, and the other thread I read included th...   Oct 12 2005, 06:12 AM
Neela   I just wanted to add some perspective to the whole...   Oct 12 2005, 11:41 AM
Aki   If a game was that real, I'd probablly be as I...   Oct 13 2005, 12:07 AM
DoomedOne   Neela no one is trying to make the claim that Viol...   Oct 13 2005, 01:38 AM
Kindred Spirit   Neela- I may be a kid, but I've played pong to...   Oct 13 2005, 03:43 AM
Neela   I do want to apologize DoomedOne.. I did get a ...   Oct 13 2005, 05:24 AM
DoomedOne   No it's okay, it has been touched, and you did...   Oct 13 2005, 05:58 AM
Kindred Spirit   INFP? INTJ? I take it these are personality types?...   Oct 13 2005, 06:31 AM
DoomedOne   You dug up my old posts? Uh oh. (Knows what it...   Oct 14 2005, 01:42 AM
Kindred Spirit   Nah. I was looking on some of the topics, seeing ...   Oct 14 2005, 02:50 AM
DoomedOne   <-----------------king of typoes.   Oct 14 2005, 03:19 AM
Kindred Spirit   Ah, I see. Well, that's better than those peop...   Oct 14 2005, 03:30 AM


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