Megil- I am a citizen. I just don't like saying it.
QUOTE(Channler @ Jan 9 2006, 11:42 PM)
Why wouldn't you say the Pledge of Allegiance? (simple question, possibly warrenting a very complex answer from you Kindred

)
Possibly a complex answer, possibly not. I'll get to that at the end of this post.
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I understand that you (lets see if I ican get it right..) athiest.. or agnostic (?) but that really just requires you not to say the.. Under God.. part of the Pledge.
That's part of it. But not all that important, I know that not everyone shares my worldview, and I have no problem whatsoever with saying "One nation, Under God."
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Personally I enjoy saying the PoA. Why? I couldn't tell you, other then it makes me feel like i've reaffirmed my position and my role I have in this nation. (the US one that is)
That works for some people, I'm not one of them, unfortunately.
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I just don't think its a battle that deserves that much effort.
It isn't. That's why I just sit there and move my mouth in motion to the words. (while thinking my own version of the pledge to the flag) I'd put my version up, but it'd probably get me in trouble.

I don't like saying the pledge for a lot of reasons. For one thing, because they (specifically my math teacher, most other people understand that not everyone likes to say it) try to force us to say it, which kinda violates the whole freedom of speach(sp?) thing. For another, I disagree politically with a lot of things the nation has done. Yet another reason is that I don't pledge my allegiance lightly. (except in jest, as in my version of the PoA) If I'm going to pledge my allegiance to this country, that means that I am going to back this country with everything I've got. If I'm going to be saying the PoA, it means that I am 100% loyal to the nation at the moment. It means I'd be willing to help out in anything the country is doing (that I as a person know about at the time of pledging allegiance). I'm not, I don't, I never have, I never will. I'd say I'm about 79% loyal to the country.

I don't support everything the country does, and thus, I can't swear allegiance to it, it would violate my code of ethics.
Eh, screw it, I'll put my version up. It isn't that bad. Note: This is my own, personal, version of the pledge of allegiance. It is a joke, it has been a joke since I thought of it. It is not serious, which is why it doesn't violate my principles the way saying the real version might, because this is intended in jest, while the real pledge of allegiance is intended to be serious.
I pledge allegiance to the fags
who run the United States of America,
And to the republic,
in which they sit,
One nation,
under Canada,
with liberty and justice for some.
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Is there anything wrong for expressing your love for your country?
No, certainly not. It isn't wrong express love for your country, unless you are putting other countries down, or forcing other people to accept your views. And from what I can tell about you, I'd say you probably don't do either.
This post has been edited by Kindred Spirit: Jan 10 2006, 06:22 AM