QUOTE(Neela @ Jan 10 2006, 03:15 PM)
I think everyone should remember that this country(USA) always will walk the middle line. Everyone is allowed to voice their opinion and opinions on the way things should work vary greatly. Every opinion is just as valid and correct as every other persons. People see all the political fighting and think things are so bad here, when in truth that is our biggest strength. It is this openness to both left and right ideals that keep the country from imploding and destroying itself. Too far to the right and you get a Dictatorship or Theocracy and too far to the left brings economic ruin and stagnation.
For me personally.. I am far left and far right on different issues. As far as having to totally agree with what the government is doing to support them.. I hate to tell you it will never happen. They will never agree with one person's opinion on the way things should be run and to be honest I am glad of it.
No, it won't ever happen. But the pledge of allegiance doesn't say anything about, "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, unless America becomes an evil nation of undead bovine." There are no conditions in the pledge. Its unconditional. Thus, I can't pledge allegiance to any government, ever. Thus, no reciting the PoA for me. Unless, maybe, if it were run by me, but hell, I wouldn't want to live in a country that had me as a leader.
QUOTE(Florodine of Hlaalu @ Jan 10 2006, 05:01 PM)
Plus you're doing what i just said, arguing.
So are you.

Oh, another reason I don't want to move to Canada. Canada has it's own political problems. In fact, I believe their liberal government was recently (as in less than a year ago) was brought under fire by an opposing party (or ALL opposing parties) for being extremely corrupt. Of course, my source of Canadian political news is
Digital Purgatory, so I'm not completely sure of all the facts. Rummage through some of the comics there, you'll find the ones I'm talking about.
Doomed-I suppose I can agree with some of what you said. Specifically the points about business, and about government at the local level. And I, too, don't hate Bush, but for a much different reason. I don't hate anybody, (again like you) but not because I feel like I'm connected to them. I don't feel that way, I doubt I ever will. I just have a hard time building up strong emotions. The only emotions that come easily to me are melancholy, pity (a small form of pity, usually coupled with sarcasm and humor), amusement (weak amusement, usually involving laughing at someone), irritation, and minor depression. (as in, enough to stop caring about anything that isn't vital, not enough to cut myself) Anything stronger than those takes is something that doesn't come easily and naturally, thus, I don't hate anything, only minor dislike due to them being a cause of irritation. So, while I agree with your oppinions to a degree, I come to similar oppinions from a different perspective.
Florodine of Hlaalu-
Yes, this is deep. We're up to our heinies in deep things.

And there's no need to hate governement. As Dantrag said, goverment, at some form or another, is essential. Even if it's only small governements like Doomed's (is it just me, or does that sound funny when yoou say it out loud?) idea, they're still necesary. The only way government wouldn't be necesary is if you can find some method of getting rid of all the assholes in the world. (which would likely require a government

)
And ignorance is bliss, perhaps. But bliss is too strong for me, I'll take knowledge and the minor depression that comes with it instead.

Ignorance may cause one to be happy, but knowledge allows one to survive. And which is the natural goal of most living creatures? (Goth kids excepted) Survival. To survive and flourish, you need to know things about your surroundings. If someone was sneaking into my house to kill me, yes, ignorance would be bliss, and I'd die happy. If I knew that the person was coming, I'd be able to do something about it. Knowledge is important, as long as you remember to take your fair share of bliss along the raod.