QUOTE(Marxist ßastard @ Jan 13 2006, 07:15 PM)
Well now that's an utterly defeatist outlook on the issue. If you truly believe that, then the reason why you're bothering to participate in this discussion is beyond me.
It is far from defeatist. Its an observation based on our apparent desire to self destruct if given enough leighway. This can be seen not only on a macro but also micro scale. Afterall, nations are made up from individuals, and individuals do seem to take great pleasure in things going wrong rather than things going right. The media is a great example of how a blood and guts story sells more than a miracle child birth story.
Yes, it is my opinion that human nature is self-destructive, but this does not invalidate my own arguments on this matter. It was not i who brought up the 'ultimate extension' of what i was discussing, i was merely retorting based on that comment. My original argument was based on contemporary society where competition was a healthy necessity for a society to flourish and not stagnate.
However, if this is still deemed as an inappopriate argument for participation then thats fair enough and i will respect your opinion.