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Wolfie
post Jan 11 2006, 08:06 PM
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The Rues as stated in the last thread:
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Right, a few rules before we start this time. No flaming. No intolerance of anybody else's viewpoint. No deciding you don't like the topic, and trying to tell people what they can discuss. This goes for everybody from now on.
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post Feb 2 2006, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ Feb 2 2006, 01:38 AM)
By the way

Cnacer rates are signifancantly higher down-wind and down stream of nuclear power plants.

Warmer water emissions have been shown occassionally to distrupt the ecosystem around these plants.

Wastes is a huge problem, one that people came has been handled, but hasn't, the most they've done is made really expensive containers.  If nuclear power plants were to replace oil as the main source of power, then  you can imagine all the wastes no one would know what to do with.

Without being known, parts all over a plant can wear down or break, and that could do anything from allowing even more radiation to escape to causing a melt-down.

You may say I should let this go but I never did, I simply decided to go back to researching on the subject.  You want to know about the dangers of nuclear power then I reccomend Helen Coldecaut.
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ah yes ok...First I must state that I not only work in a NPP, I actually also work exactly with those issues you mention, since My department is the department of environment control, which also deals with the radioactive waste, radiation protection, industrial safety, radioactive and non-radioactive emission and so on!! So you see I know of the enviromental effects...and the possible risks!!

I will not say you are wrong, because you talk about the situation in your country. What I can talk about is the situation in Sweden, in our plants here!

First: We have very strong limits of radioactive emission to air and water, regarding the warming of the surrounding sea....yes! we do warm it up! But the sealife is under constant supervision and the most spectacular effects are somewhat larger salmons ans possibility to take a swim very late in the autumn!

About the security-systems: It´s not as if different parts of the plant just simply break and cause a melt-down, without any warning!!! No noooooo! Where did you read that? it´s completely nonsense! The security systems in our plant is very strong with four times redundancy.....at least!

The waste now.....In Sweden we have "the swedish system" a complete system for handling and final storage of high activity waste. We also have storages for medium and low actice waste....

Enough for now..... tongue.gif

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I reckon that it’s nothing that can't be prevented.

It's also the next best alternative when it comes to costs, so it's not a matter of if we'll switch but more a matter of when. 
When is important because if we start developing on time there is less chance for critical errors to occur. They would occure if we are forced to rush it.

Still nuclear energy has the same problems as other fuel based energy, it tends to run out, still it would be unwise to not develop plans and systems for a safer and more efficient nuclear plant, we don't have to use them but might need them.

Better safe the sorry.


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Wolfie   Waiting4oblivion Parliament   Jan 11 2006, 08:06 PM
DoomedOne   channler said I don't understand, could you ...   Jan 11 2006, 08:47 PM
Channler   I'm sorry about that...my thoughts were a bit ...   Jan 11 2006, 11:01 PM
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Neela   You are right that before people settled down and ...   Jan 12 2006, 03:55 AM
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Neela   I would agree with you here that Capitalism does...   Jan 14 2006, 07:02 AM
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minque   Since I work at a nuclear power plant.....I just...   Jan 14 2006, 10:06 PM
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Dantrag   yeah, let's spread the pollution.   Jan 14 2006, 11:23 PM
Slayer of Cliffracers   Okay as soon as something goes wrong, which inev...   Jan 14 2006, 11:30 PM
minque   Hmm it´s not that simple. I think every generation...   Jan 14 2006, 11:29 PM
Wolfie   I view Nuclear power as a mixed bag. We have the p...   Jan 14 2006, 11:36 PM
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Dantrag   There's a nuclear power plant around where I a...   Jan 14 2006, 11:38 PM
minque   Because we do not have enough of renewable energ...   Jan 14 2006, 11:54 PM
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minque   Well I could go on for hours about that, but I´ll ...   Jan 15 2006, 01:32 AM
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