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Wolfie |
Jan 11 2006, 08:06 PM
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The Rues as stated in the last thread: QUOTE(burntsierra @ Jul 27 2005, 07:18 PM) Right, a few rules before we start this time. No flaming. No intolerance of anybody else's viewpoint. No deciding you don't like the topic, and trying to tell people what they can discuss. This goes for everybody from now on. Other than that, enjoy your discussion 
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 D�anaim smaoineamh, d� bhr� sin, t�im ann - Descartes Only the dead have seen the end of war ~ Plato Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. - G.K. Chesterton EnsamVarg
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Channler |
Feb 2 2006, 04:08 AM
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Joined: 20-March 05
From: Nashville, North Carolina

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Red, well while your point makes sense, what you suggest is appeasement... WW2 anyone? NEwho.. I'm pissed QUOTE This was courtesy of Tyger at SpecialOps paintball Not scare tactics, it's playing out in real life. I've been getting e-mails from people in the industry about this, and here's the basics. HB2414 CRIM CD-BANS SEMIAUTOMATIC http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus...33&SessionID=50and HB4132 CRIM CD-REPLICA WEAPONS http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus...80&SessionID=50Quote: HB4132 Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that it is unlawful for any person to purchase, possess, use, sell, give away, or otherwise transfer, or to engage in the business of selling, or to exhibit for sale, any replica rocket propelled grenade launcher, bazooka, artillery piece, grenade, mine, bomb, or items similar to weapons designed and manufactured for military purposes or replicas of those items. Provides that a violation is a Class A misdemeanor. So what does this mean? In simple terms, anyone using anything that looks, reacts, or appears to be a replica firearm will be in violation of Illinois law. this includes milsim paintguns to toy guns to parade guns that marching bands use. This could also include any paintgun that has a "gun" look, meaning all of them. I got this in my in-box today. Quote: I just spoke to our house rep's office about this legislation. Rep McGuire's office has told me that yes, as the legislation is written, it will outlaw paintball (and air soft) in the state of Illinois. This includes the sale and distribution of paintball supplies. I would appreciate it if you all would begin contacting (and have as many people at your respective companies contact) Representative Edward Acevedo's office to explain how many jobs will be lost, and tax dollars lost if paintball as an industry is outlawed in the state of Illinois. His office number in Springfield is 217-782-2855. This legislation is in 2nd reading- which means there's not a lot of time left. PLEASE do whatever you can to ensure the full impact of this legislation is known by all members of the House. Thank you. Gretchen Shay Challenge Park Xtreme On a national level, if you get your stuff from PMI, Action Village, Draxxus or any other IL distribution point you are affected. If you use any product from Centerflag or Air America, you're affected. This legislation also opens doors for other states to introduce and implement similar legislation. If you live in Illinois, call your state representative and tell them you are AGAINST these bills as written! Even if you're not in Illinois, you can help by opposing this bill. Tell them how much revinue will be lost, and how many people will lose jobs and how many taxes will be lost if this bill goes through as is. You want to do something for paintball, this is it. (As a note, if you don't know who your state rep is, literally google "Who is the state representative for (your town)" and you can get an answer.) -Tyger Takin from http://www.unknownsoldiers.org/barracks/vi...pic.php?t=14253, my BF2 clan website. This makes me angry. I play P-ball every week drop hundreds of dollars into it. If I were in IL I think I'd be leading some paintball brigades to the capitol. I've sent a letter as well, and if you even marginally enjoy paintball (or support our 2nd amendment right) please send a letter too.
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Red |
Feb 4 2006, 08:44 AM
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Mouth

Joined: 29-May 05
From: If you're lucky, sometimes I'm here.

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QUOTE(Channler @ Feb 2 2006, 03:08 AM) Red, well while your point makes sense, what you suggest is appeasement... WW2 anyone? NEwho.. I'm pissed Takin from http://www.unknownsoldiers.org/barracks/vi...pic.php?t=14253, my BF2 clan website. This makes me angry. I play P-ball every week drop hundreds of dollars into it. If I were in IL I think I'd be leading some paintball brigades to the capitol. I've sent a letter as well, and if you even marginally enjoy paintball (or support our 2nd amendment right) please send a letter too. That's quite strange. Though I don't support the 2nd amendment, I do support someones right to play a recreational past time. Some one shooting someone with paint, practicing precision, athleticism, strategy, improvisational thinking and such other important factors in life doesn't train people to kill or open our minds to violence or anything of that sort. Thats as sensible as banning water balloon fights.
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