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DoomedOne
post Apr 21 2006, 05:24 AM
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So it's time for us to ask the great question after some good time playing the game. Is it truly balanced? Is it playable from any angle, or can you screw up by pushing skills in the wrong directions? Is there a standard skill set that works for vitually every character? Are certain skills better used by playing the game the same way (for instance, a stealth vampire better than a fighter vampire?)

I think certain skills are useless, being mysticism and security that I can think of. Other skills can be important no matter what the character, like illusion, marksman, restoration. So it seems if I want a knight he has to major in part to stealth. A stealthy character finds more options in the game than dash and hack, but at the same time does earn kills as fast. Mysticism only had 3 or 4 spells, and they all seem useless. Soul trap can be done just as easely without majoring in it and work as well (seeing as how rare grand soul gems are it doesn't matter if you ecounter them anyway) Tlekinesis is fun but useless as you can't do any harm to the monster. Dispel is useless because of how rare enchanted characters are anyway. When you do encounter them they're barely any more difficult.

Security can be done by just learning the game, and it doesn't make it that much easier when you get into higher levels. You'll still be searching for lockpicks at every corner.

Blade ended up being all powerful but I don't think it has anything to do with the joining of long and short, it's just there's a lot of seductive stuff that comes in blades. War hammers have there own seduction but not as powerful.


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Cadaver
post Apr 25 2006, 06:45 PM
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To make an immediate god...

HIGH ELF/ APPRENTICE sign

(contrary to a previous post, Int gaine magicka is "retroactive", you get straight 2 points magicka per int, no matter what your level, HIT POINTS are not retroactive, so if you melee a lot, get end up first)

However, to make your god char, forget melee... All that swinging and crazy spinning, its chaos (fun, but chaos). You dont want that, its dangerous, a guy could get hurt!!

What you want is Destruction, Sneak, Illusion, Alchemy and Restore!!

The lowest level you can cast Paralyze or Invisiable is level 50 illusion, the spells you buy dont get lower, and you cant create a spell with an effect that you cant cast...

HOWEVER!! Who says you cant cast a spell just cuz your skill is too low?? This is where restore comes in... you can get a novice fortify skill spell.. and you can make a 3 second (oh I dont know) fortify Illusion spell that should EASILY get you over 50 long enough to click the Spellmaker... then make a 1 sec paralyze (I called it stun) and a 10-15 second invisable....

Use destruction on everything... or bow, or both....

THE PLAN: You sneak around in dungeons... you see a guy....

Pull him, alone, with a ranged attack... poison an arrow or just fireblast him doesnt matter...

Then when he gets close, cast your 10 second invis... he loses you, sneak up, and WHACK HIM HARD!! repeat ad infinitim till he dies...

If you run out of magicka, thats what alch is for... and if you make a skill to fortify Illusion, make one for Alch!! Then your potions rock!! Its also free money because potions will start selling for 60+ gold EASY all while level 1!!

If you are a vampire, you have detect life free... which is neat, it also boosts SPEED! (aweome) Destruction (better) Illusion (how could you NOT have skill 50 now?) Sneak!! (SNEAK CRITS RULE!! and with Invis, you can keep doing it!!) and acrobatics, strangth, will, other stuff... Jump farther, carry more, regen magicka faster...

I made a bunch of touch spells... I am level 10 and my destroy is at 100, when I go stage 4 vamp, destroy is at 118 (got the conjurer robe too) So I have these 100 damage for 2 seconds, and 100% weakness to damage type for 2 seconds spells. 400 damage on touch... at level 10!! I wipe people out with at most, 3 of those.... and if not, cast invis.... run away, they lose you... sit around, drink a pot or 2, come back and finish em off...

I think my char has been physically struck maybe 25 times this whole time.... I am almost master of mages guild, cleaned out about 20 dungeons or so....

Armor skills useless if you dont get hit, and blades/bows/axes/maces break, so I stick with destroy...

Plus, I can carry more since I am not weighted down by unnecesary arms and armor... I carry one good sword for "emergancies" and some killer dispel pots for the rare time I didnt dodge a silence spell... (very rare)

Next char I make will be a more Thief type, maybe just using illusion for magic... more bows, poisons, blade, and a WEE BIT more melee...

I think melee is the most advanced style of play in this game. Stealth and magick (or both together) are easy/invincable....

Thats my opinions...

whatcha think?

Cadaver


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DoomedOne   What works better, what is useless   Apr 21 2006, 05:24 AM
HyPN0   Ahem......Character creation threads or such.....M...   Apr 21 2006, 10:39 AM
Furious_George   I agree with Hypno. You can play any angle and be...   Apr 21 2006, 11:08 AM
xycolian   I think that illusion is the Best magically-orient...   Apr 21 2006, 03:00 PM
bloodyfish   The skills I find useless are lockpicking and snea...   Apr 21 2006, 09:32 PM
HyPN0   Sneak - Useles??? You are obvlusly not a master.   Apr 21 2006, 09:44 PM
rzrgenesys187   speechcraft is worthless (to me at least) all you ...   Apr 22 2006, 03:06 AM
DoomedOne   I agree with hypno on sneak, my character is a mas...   Apr 23 2006, 02:52 AM
Konradude   What's so good about master sneak?   Apr 23 2006, 11:45 AM
HyPN0   Master of Sneak ignores oponent's armor when ...   Apr 23 2006, 12:15 PM
DoomedOne   It's not just that, I can be two feet infront ...   Apr 23 2006, 11:59 PM
Foster   Well, considering I just started a character with ...   Apr 25 2006, 07:07 PM
DoomedOne   Heh, it's actually level 10 you get the skelet...   Apr 25 2006, 08:08 PM
Foster   You usually get seen with Sneak if you attack/figh...   Apr 25 2006, 08:26 PM
Cadaver   So sounds like the secret to Acro is jumping down ...   Apr 26 2006, 09:17 PM
Olav   I do this a lot... :P I'm jumping off the c...   Apr 27 2006, 09:19 AM
HyPN0   Best way to train Acrobatics is to jump wherever ...   Apr 27 2006, 10:57 AM
Furious_George   Constant jumping is fine.. a good spot to uber-t...   Apr 27 2006, 05:17 PM
Olav   Sure, but that is quite silly, and jumping from ...   Apr 27 2006, 07:12 PM
HyPN0   heh. Jumping wherever i go is an old habit from M...   Apr 27 2006, 07:52 PM
SleepWhilstYouWork   Security is useless because once you get the Skele...   Apr 27 2006, 07:50 PM
HyPN0   That's not true. The game is so ''sla...   Apr 27 2006, 07:56 PM


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