GIANTS ULTIMATE 2.7.1 by Pumaman, MW mod came on disk from PC Gamer ! Options

[Ibis]

I don't know if anyone else has received this in the mail, but my hubby Cain got 2 free game guides and 1 extra disk with his subscription to PC Gamer magazine (which comes every month with a disk loaded with game trials & utilities) and on the disk was a download of the Morrowind mod Giants Ultimate 2.7.1 by Pumaman.

I am making a thread about this because I remember someone saying in discussion here that Bethesda ought to start recognizing the better mods made by fans for Morrowind and Oblivion and publish them with the creators name.

PC Gamer seems to have gotten the idea because here for the public is the most downloaded mod of Morrowind - so they say - and this is also wonderful advertisement for Morrowind and might get even a brand new generation of players for MW who had previously not heard of or tried the game.

I don't know if Pumaman is getting any money with this inclusion of his mod on the PC Gamer disk, but I hope he is - especially considering how Bethesda Gaming Company is now charging $2 for horse armor, and such. There was a guy at Ebay who was charging $10 a pop for sending mods to people that he didn't make (he was warned to desist.) But if the Bethesda devs are going to nickel and dime fans for the content they forgot to put in Oblivion instead of giving it freely like "Bitter Coast Sounds" mod, etc. for Morrowind; then why shouldn't all of us modders for Oblivion get on the bandwagon and make some money for our work as well. If the giving and sharing spirit of Tamriel is gone = let's ALL profit.

Now I've gone offtrack from what I wanted to say .... which is, what are your thoughts on this Morrowind player's mod being included on the PC Gamer disk?

Anyone who still plays Morrowind and would like to check out Giants can do so at this link

[Joryn]

I suppose thats pretty good. As Hypno said, its an honour, the most important thing is that his mod has been recognised by a very well respected magazine. Still I always thought when I downloaded pc mods that the only reward these guys/gals got was the satisfaction of people having great fun with something they worked very hard to do. Something I think many developers of today have forgot.

Now Im not having a dig a Bethesda personally, but its pretty damn obvious the orrery and horse armour mods were plucked out of the final game and sold for a bit of extra cash. I imagine the wizards tower was too, but I let that slip since its slightly more useful than the other two. Still its good to be reminded that there are modders out there willing to put time and effort in for the love of the game, and not the cash. I hope Pumaman wasnt paid for that inclusion, but I do hope he feels very proud.

[Pisces]

Now Im not having a dig a Bethesda personally, but its pretty damn obvious the orrery and horse armour mods were plucked out of the final game and sold for a bit of extra cash.

A lot people say that but I never believed it. With games they have a cut off point where all modders and modellers have to stop working and do testing and bug fixing or if they're not needed for that then work on something else. Orrery would be something which was planned near the cut off point but wasn't finished/started by then, horse armour would be the 3D modellers with a bit of extra time because they don't have as much work during fixing, then after release other people have time to stick it in game quite soon after release. Personally I am supprised they didn't release more crappy mods. But eventually they will start making good mods, it just takes a bit longer to realise that they need to put some effort in to sell it and for the team to run out of bad ideas, if you've noticed, with each mod they have gotten slightly better. And its better they are funding themselves with bad mods than bad games, some of them were quite good like sea dogs but most of them were crap.