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Religion, What do you think of it? |
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HyPN0 |
May 13 2006, 11:40 PM
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I got the idea for making this thread from Polygamy thread. I think this may be an intresting topic. What do you think about religion(s)? Do you belive in any kind of gods? Christian God? Alah? Buddha? Or you don't have a religion at all? If you do stick to your religion, tell us why. If you don't belive that there are such things as gods, again tell us why. I hope that there won't be any flames or immature behavior. I have good faith in Chorrol.com community that there won't be any hard words, or simply dissrespect towards other opinions. So, let's start shall we?
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DoomedOne |
May 18 2006, 01:41 AM
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Actually King, atheism can mean different things to do different people. For some it just means they choose not to wrap their lives around anything proofless, for others it boldly means that everything has a biological explanation.
Looking at the word, all that's required to be an atheist is to be without god, that could mean anything, expecially since every human being believes god is something slightly different.
Thanados, I was not suggesting there was something wrong with it. Everyone has their own faith. This, in fact, goes hand in hand with my last statement, to call oneself a christian, all that is required is they follow christ, or pledge loyalty to him, or anything along those lines. I personally find it odd that people think of the bible as a source of factual information. Biblical phrases are often pulled out during debates by certain people (I know JonaJosa did it some times) but if they use that as a source of factual information, as guide to how to live their lives, why don't they follow the entire thing. My point, I think, you will agree with. People who have interpreted the bible for other people throughout history have told them what to believe, saying it all came from the mystical book. But, it's sort of like the media today, they pick and choose what to emphasize and what to totally ignore. There could be some news about famine in Africa, but most media outlets (at least in the US) won't touch it, omitting it for personal, indiscolsed reason, and pressure from different areas, most readily a result of greed.
So, it seems to me, choosing some parts of the bible to believe in, and others to assume are long forgotten codes of conduct that no long apply (even if Jesus taught them himself, as many of the omitted beliefs in modern christianity are in fact his lessons) is boat well in good, if your knowledge spans the entire thing, not jsut what church has said is true.
Face it, someone who believes in the Bible is believing in something without logic, without proof, with omly their faith, and there's nothing wrong with that, but then why pick and choose what truth is? Why blind yourself with words from a text when not every word of the text is the same thing? To believe in some aprts, and not others, destroys the credibility of the book itself, because the book is supposed to be an absolute as much as logic or faith itself is an absolute. As the guys from southpark said, "Either it's all okay, or none of it is."
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ThanadoS |
May 18 2006, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(DoomedOne @ May 18 2006, 01:41 AM) Thanados, I was not suggesting there was something wrong with it. Everyone has their own faith. This, in fact, goes hand in hand with my last statement, to call oneself a christian, all that is required is they follow christ, or pledge loyalty to him, or anything along those lines. I personally find it odd that people think of the bible as a source of factual information. Biblical phrases are often pulled out during debates by certain people (I know JonaJosa did it some times) but if they use that as a source of factual information, as guide to how to live their lives, why don't they follow the entire thing. My point, I think, you will agree with. People who have interpreted the bible for other people throughout history have told them what to believe, saying it all came from the mystical book. But, it's sort of like the media today, they pick and choose what to emphasize and what to totally ignore. There could be some news about famine in Africa, but most media outlets (at least in the US) won't touch it, omitting it for personal, indiscolsed reason, and pressure from different areas, most readily a result of greed.  Yeah i agree with that point. I was on my part just pointing out the maybe once "good" reasons for following such a text, and the bad/unlogic/cruel and unnecessary consequences on the other hand. In short the bible is one of the oldest works of propaganda; when you read it, some books wrote by the inquisition, mao's little red book, gadaffis green one, even hitler's, books written by lenin or the communist manifesto - all the same, no difference. It is also the same when you watch news today. I watch cnn sometimes and they don't cover by far, what's going on in the world. BBC is the same, all the european channels either. The whole tv thing is trying to manipulate people, a single book won't do anymore nowadays; but still nothing has changed. The worst thing about all this is though, that people think they're so smart, no everytihng, are "developped, civilized, intelligent", whereas that simple isn't true. If every person on earth would care to build up some knowledge, all this propaganda, may it be capitalistic, socialistic (which is always getting misused), religious etc. would lose all it's effect.
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