Chorrol Parliament, Be civil please.. Options

[Channler]

Ok....

Why?
USA is not perfect.

Correct! But neither is any one country in the world. Comparing USA to China is like comparing watermelons to cantalopes (I think thats what their called.. ) however comparing the US to the UK is like comparing a watermelon and a grapefruit.

They are all fruit.. But some are much bigger and different then the others. Population make ups are so different that it is unfair to compare them. Some of our corporations are richer then most african countries combined.. what does that tell you?

I think you didn't understand my point.They will provide you only if you're willing to work or take education.OR if you're sick and unable to work.
Now telling me that a country with such capacityes as USA can't temporarily provide money to those who can't make it at the moment......I'm not convinced.
There is an old chinese saying:
''Give a man a fish,and you fed him for one day.Teach a man how to catch a fish,and you fed him for his whole life.''
In modernt terms it would be:Give me money and i'll have money for one day.Teach me how to make money and i'll have money for a lifetime.

USA should be able to provide poor people education and some money while they're at school ,and make them capable to work.Or find them a job,which is even better.
Country gives you money when you need it.But when you start working,you will actualy return that money to the state via taxes you can now pay wink.gif

Yes, temporarily we can provide aid. And that is exactly what it should be used for. One blow can severly cripple your family, I know. I've been there. However there are many people that take advantage of this system, and it happens in every free enviroment. People that won't work and have children just so they get more money.. and my tax money goes to supporting them! I hate that thought.

And the old chinese proverb is wonderous too. But people (in America) nowadays are either A) wanna live the thug, white trash, and bum life Are to conservative and believe in their own superiority, and C) Liberals that think we should give alot more to group A) We have free "forced" education untill your 16, then you can decide if you want to stick with it or not. However, in my school alone 1/3 of my entire class is not expected to graduate. Why? Is it because welfare? No it is because of the decay of moral society and affirmative action.

Bottom line is that people are growing lazy and are looking for handouts. When the US stopped providing aid to Tawian their economy BOOMED. Why? Because it was either become a part of China, or work your boat off and become independent. Their ecomony and way of life was stagnant because they didn't have to do anything! The US was providing all the cash for it!

I admire that.
But i think that the state should have helped them.
At least provided them with a decent place to stay.
And i don't mean shalter!
I mean a decent small apartment.

Err.. Shelter doesn't always mean like a tin shack or something. A homeless shelter generally is a fairly decent place with showers and bathrooms and of course cooking areas.

Yes indeed.The way i was told,USA is great in some things,but it's horrible for something else.Homeless disscusion is a good example here.

For example my cousin (who lives and works in USA),tells me that you can make good money in the states,but if you get sick you're in big trouble.The hospital prices are huge,and his health insurance can't cover that (he says he has a good health ensurance).Maybe you as an American can tell me mre about this subject?

I would agree for you their. Medical care is incredibly expensive here.. But do you know why? Its because your have these NO CLASS citizens that will sue a doctor because they believe something went wrong! So a doctor needs 9+ years of training to find it safe to practice. But after nine years of school (and school bills) wouldn't you expect a little pay-up? And what about that emergency fund incase a person decides to sue you for reasons you can't stop? Who do I blame? The idiots that let court cases like that win. And that usually happens to be pro-liberal judges.

There is no winning.. I'm loosing faith. Maybe I should become a monk or something.. at least they won't tell me how GWB looks like a monkey.

[Channler]

Yea, but Red, how would that work? We are the Great Evil and are downplayed by the rest of the world.

Ok.. ok.. ok.. Here is my question. Why does everyone hate the USA (this goes out to you American America haters as well)? I would imagin cause we follow our own ideals and not yours? Or maybe its just cause we seemed to it right for the past 100+ years? (See our current.. err.. power.. for justification)

I mean I think France is a beautiful place, England is full of great people (not like southern hospitality though..), the Middle easterners and their customs/history is wonderous. I love these world nations/groups/peoples/animals yet because I'm an american I'm ignorant and a whole host of other things cause, and I quote, "You elected a monkey as a president", unquote. First off I didn't elect GWB, in fact if I coulda voted I woulda abstained. And he got voted in on fact that *gasp* people voted him in! Its not like he seized power.

For gods sake, he has like 2 more years.

If your wondering where this little blurb came from I was browsing different forums, such as the jolt.uk forums etc. and I found out that they (other people) think were horrible. Generally over here the only people we don't like are.. uh.. Actually I don't know a single place that I don't like, or people. I think you all are wonderous institutions but I like mine better, so I'm a nationalist and a bunch of other things. So much for caring about other countries..

[HyPN0]

Ok.. ok.. ok.. Here is my question. Why does everyone hate the USA (this goes out to you American America haters as well)? I would imagin cause we follow our own ideals and not yours? Or maybe its just cause we seemed to it right for the past 100+ years? (See our current.. err.. power.. for justification)

Why did everybody hate Rome in the past?
Romans were wondering back then why does everybody hate Rome.

Same goes to US: War. You have violent politics. Making excuses going to hunt down criminals in Afghanistan, saving Iraq from Saddam, and finding wepons of massive destruction (which didn't exist), all for sake of stealing oil. I mean EVERYBODY knows that. Forget about any idea that USA are some kind of peace makers. Sorry, but peace can't be achived by guns and bombardment. I apologise if I'm being a bit too direct.

Everything in politics is about intrest. Nothing is done for free. Why would you, since you love your nation and all (and that's a very good thing, being a patriot), send your American to die for some Iraqi? Nah, you would keep your men safe. Let Iraqi solve their own diffrences. Just as you should leave Serbs and Albanians solve theirs.
More people die if you folks get involved

That's why i dislike USA politicians. Offcourse, I have nothing against the people, because people didn't really vote for ''let's PWN Serbia! ! !''
Nah, I belive Neela when she says you didn't even have a proper media coverage. I bet that people didn't even know that war is going on. And I am 100% sure most of them don't know where is Serbia on the map. I don't hate you or any other American. Joe Shmoe isn't responsable my country being bombed.

As for you inner politics, I couldn't care less. If it suits you, It suits me even better. I don't care fot US ideals, you can belive whatever you god damn want. But hands off my country

Note: You might think I'm a bit aggressive. I'm actualy perfectly calm, and brutaly honest in this. Since you asked, it would be a real shame if I didn't tell you the thruth. That's all