Chorrol Parliament, Be civil please.. Options

[Channler]

Ok....

Why?
USA is not perfect.

Correct! But neither is any one country in the world. Comparing USA to China is like comparing watermelons to cantalopes (I think thats what their called.. ) however comparing the US to the UK is like comparing a watermelon and a grapefruit.

They are all fruit.. But some are much bigger and different then the others. Population make ups are so different that it is unfair to compare them. Some of our corporations are richer then most african countries combined.. what does that tell you?

I think you didn't understand my point.They will provide you only if you're willing to work or take education.OR if you're sick and unable to work.
Now telling me that a country with such capacityes as USA can't temporarily provide money to those who can't make it at the moment......I'm not convinced.
There is an old chinese saying:
''Give a man a fish,and you fed him for one day.Teach a man how to catch a fish,and you fed him for his whole life.''
In modernt terms it would be:Give me money and i'll have money for one day.Teach me how to make money and i'll have money for a lifetime.

USA should be able to provide poor people education and some money while they're at school ,and make them capable to work.Or find them a job,which is even better.
Country gives you money when you need it.But when you start working,you will actualy return that money to the state via taxes you can now pay wink.gif

Yes, temporarily we can provide aid. And that is exactly what it should be used for. One blow can severly cripple your family, I know. I've been there. However there are many people that take advantage of this system, and it happens in every free enviroment. People that won't work and have children just so they get more money.. and my tax money goes to supporting them! I hate that thought.

And the old chinese proverb is wonderous too. But people (in America) nowadays are either A) wanna live the thug, white trash, and bum life Are to conservative and believe in their own superiority, and C) Liberals that think we should give alot more to group A) We have free "forced" education untill your 16, then you can decide if you want to stick with it or not. However, in my school alone 1/3 of my entire class is not expected to graduate. Why? Is it because welfare? No it is because of the decay of moral society and affirmative action.

Bottom line is that people are growing lazy and are looking for handouts. When the US stopped providing aid to Tawian their economy BOOMED. Why? Because it was either become a part of China, or work your boat off and become independent. Their ecomony and way of life was stagnant because they didn't have to do anything! The US was providing all the cash for it!

I admire that.
But i think that the state should have helped them.
At least provided them with a decent place to stay.
And i don't mean shalter!
I mean a decent small apartment.

Err.. Shelter doesn't always mean like a tin shack or something. A homeless shelter generally is a fairly decent place with showers and bathrooms and of course cooking areas.

Yes indeed.The way i was told,USA is great in some things,but it's horrible for something else.Homeless disscusion is a good example here.

For example my cousin (who lives and works in USA),tells me that you can make good money in the states,but if you get sick you're in big trouble.The hospital prices are huge,and his health insurance can't cover that (he says he has a good health ensurance).Maybe you as an American can tell me mre about this subject?

I would agree for you their. Medical care is incredibly expensive here.. But do you know why? Its because your have these NO CLASS citizens that will sue a doctor because they believe something went wrong! So a doctor needs 9+ years of training to find it safe to practice. But after nine years of school (and school bills) wouldn't you expect a little pay-up? And what about that emergency fund incase a person decides to sue you for reasons you can't stop? Who do I blame? The idiots that let court cases like that win. And that usually happens to be pro-liberal judges.

There is no winning.. I'm loosing faith. Maybe I should become a monk or something.. at least they won't tell me how GWB looks like a monkey.

[Ibis]

Actually none of it is okay ... but it happens. Why?

Since the long drawn-out miasma of the Viet Nam war, American politicians have learned and perfected the art of the mini-war. And the timing of them, to fit nicely within a certain administration, extend until just beyond a voting date and then to be miraculously ended by the ruling party that started the war for profit. Kind of redundant to say that, because all wars are for profit.
W. actually has failed at the mini-war, he's let his midEastern war get way out of hand. He had a real incentive though - vendetta, the avenging of his father's name, George Senior - who was forced to let Saddam slip out of his hands by his own administration in order to tie up their little miniwar neatly at the time.
But George W. served his purpose when he avenged his dad and shouldn't really ever had a second term. A second term?? He * *, he should never have had a first. But he did have a good plan ... see there's this little state called Florida and there's this little brother called Jeb... and Jeb's state has these things called hanging shads in the ballots ... & I hope that you all remember the story. Katherine Harris, who now looms large in the Senate for her Republican loyalty, arranged for the undecided ballots never to be counted, for Al Gore to be counted out on a "technical failure" and for the Bushes (yes there's a 3rd brother on Wall Street) to prosper. So W. ain't so dumb after all.
That this could happen in America, the supposedly most free nation on Earth, amazes me only less than that the American public bent over and took it.
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But that is not really what I wanted to say. What I want to say is a response to Player10's question about the use of the word "our". The only place I used that word was "our shores" and of course, anyone standing on a shore anywhere can use that term.
This thing about living uder one sun is so true and we should all pool together our efforts to cleanse and save our Mother Earth. Despite all that was said about illegal aliens, we here in Orlando saw the largest demonstration ever in our history that was concerning Immigration Laws, and I am on the side of making the illegals who are already here = legal. They are here, they need help, they need to be citizens, make it happen. We need the taxes.
Olav told it to you true, the oil reserves of the world are shrinking and although they are looking for new ones ... the hard fact is that someday there just ain't gonna be anymore. No more dinosaurs dying, are there? Sooo, we all need to think of cleaner ways of power - wind power, solar power, oceanic current power, corn squeezin's power. I know some people will say nuclear, but when they can tell what their gonna do with that heavy sludge that's left over to make it totally safe for Earth .. then I'll include that one.
And this that Olav said, really says it all to me ... and I would hope to you too:

This is the one thing we all can agree on, and what really matters. Instead of fighting each other we should work together to eliminate pollution and make our planet a good place for everyone to live on, and to find ways to spread our seeds to other worlds. We'll all have to leave Earth one day anyway when our star becomes too bright, so we might as well start preparing now... 

Bout time we all started thinking of ourselves as children of Earth, like the original Americans did ... Mother Earth, Father Sun - respect the land and the animals are our brothers. Respect. I don't think the modern day has that word at all.