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DoomedOne
post Jul 26 2006, 10:34 PM
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Due to the flame war I started in the Coffee Shop (more like a flame execution) by merely discussing my day, I think it's clear something of this magnitude should be given it's own topic, so here it is.

I'll give some rules:

No flaming and no disrespect. All standard forum rules hold here. This is a thread for people's personal discussions on ethics and justification for their actions. I know people can feel very strongly about these sorts of things but no one has the right to insult or attack people instead of their ideas. Also, for those being attacked, remember don't mistake an attack on your ideas as an attack on you.

So this was spawned due to this idea: Is there any justification in stealing?


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Red
post Jul 27 2006, 06:16 AM
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Just because people dissagreed with your thoughts on theft and moderators told you to stop talking about it doesn't mean there was a flame war, it means you were in what they considered the wrong.

Right, wrong, good and evil are all just titles. We live in a strange society that has turned from a self-survival system to a Anarchist system to a large scale, divided society system, and over that time our loyalties and beliefs of others has changed. We believe things are right and wrong, true or false, just or unjust, but we do not consider the opposite side. You may think you're in the right, but to the otherside, you're wrong.

For example, the American WW2 soldier was a young, scarred boy fighting a growing evil, while the Nazi WW2 soldier was a young, scarred boy figting the evil invader. Now, looking at it this way may make you feel a little compassion for the enemy, but you don't want that. Good is good, evil is evil, nothing could possibly be two sided, so you give them a name. Nazi is a good one as you simply think of the true enemy, Hitler. Calling a black man the "n" word instead of "Homo sapian of different skin tone but similar genetic build" makes being rascist easy.

Now, onto theft. You could say that you're just stealing from a heartless corporation, but you know the truth. You're just trying to think of it without a face, pretending its some sort of souless, thoughtless, money making machine. When someone broke into the Blockbuster I work at and stole thousands of dollers, every single person had there job threatened due to suspicion. now, I could have said "damn managers are trying to take away my job" but then I thought, not only was this not the managers idea, but the manager was facing losing work staff. If this happened, he'd have to pick up slack, find new applicants and if he couldn't, he'd lose his job. This system goes all the way to the CEO of the company.

I know I probably haven't changed you're ideals on theft, but let me tell you, if I were working at the place you decided to steal from, I'd have been quite pissed.


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