A Discussion on Ethics Options

[DoomedOne]

Due to the flame war I started in the Coffee Shop (more like a flame execution) by merely discussing my day, I think it's clear something of this magnitude should be given it's own topic, so here it is.

I'll give some rules:

No flaming and no disrespect. All standard forum rules hold here. This is a thread for people's personal discussions on ethics and justification for their actions. I know people can feel very strongly about these sorts of things but no one has the right to insult or attack people instead of their ideas. Also, for those being attacked, remember don't mistake an attack on your ideas as an attack on you.

So this was spawned due to this idea: Is there any justification in stealing?

[milanius]

And if you are sobroke that you have no food, you need to get help, go to the salvation army for eksample,or the social offices, heck maybe even the police station....most western lands will care for such persons who need help, and the most likely get help...

There are places in the world in which nobody wishes to help nobody and nobody really gives a s***. There are places in the world in which an individual can't get help, because, quite simply, there isn't any help arround. And finally, there are places in the world where people sometimes have no choice but to steal, swindle, smuggle thing and con others. You (not YOU, dear Tellie, but "You" as in general you, someone who reads this post) just have to accept that fact.
For someone, ANYONE, to say such a blunt thing, like "Killing of another human being in self-defence is justified because of self-preservation, but stealing for same reason isn't" is really an idealistic and mainly black/white way of looking at life. People who think that in every country in the world social services, homeless shelters and other charitable organisations actually work are people who need to be disillusioned. So, wake up. I will not glorify stealing, but I will not be stuck up and act like a godamn paladin about it.

...as for the taxes, I would not avoid them. It is, after all, a way to keep a country strong and aid it, so the country could, in return, aid its citisens in any way it's nesseccarry.

p.s.: once again, this Quick Edit thing is awesome

This post has been edited by milanius: Jul 29 2006, 03:08 PM