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post Aug 25 2006, 04:25 AM
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I know i'm kind of jumping ahead and thinking to far into the future, but i want to know what you guys think the next TES will be like, or if you do know then tell me please. I mean like what province do you think it will play in, or what would be a good name for it and how they are gonna improve. Please share your thoughts


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post Aug 28 2006, 03:13 PM
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You know, as much as I'd wish I will be proven wrong, I fear that the next TES installment will be even more of an action-focused game. Sure, I might be making jokes about how less of a RPG Oblivion is most of the time and point out its failures the rest of time, but I guess what I really should be doing is voicing my opinion, sharing my views and trying to give ideas and constructive criticism somewhere where the developers could read it. Problem is, I'm not even sure where that would be. There was a time I saw the devs drop in at the official forums almost every day, commenting on whatever they felt like. Now, I'd dare to say that we might see a handful dev posts at its most every month.

The devs themselves claim that they do read most of what's being said, but what's the point of that if they do not chime in on the discussions? After all, they were behind the decisions and the integration of all the features and aspects of the game. They could at least give a reason as to why they made certain choices. Further, I'd be very interested in reading what [dev name] would have done differently if given enough time/resources/choice.

Anyway, returning to as to why I've lost pretty much any hope that the constructive criticism aimed at the game (yes, such criticism does exist) would really help the next installment. Looking back at the complaints that were brought up with Morrowind, we now find that some of the flaws of MW were fixed with Oblivion.

One, things are easier to find. Of course, one could question if things really needed to change in this aspect and if it's not too easy to find now (in my opinion, the compass in its current state was a bad decision).

Two, the animations do look better now. The "stick up yer rear" is gone and usually creatures'/NPCs' movement is smooth. Still, this is merely eye-candy, which I don't find to be that important in RPGs.

Three, the ability to become a demi-god at level ~20. Yes, you pretty much became the most powerful entity in the entire game at the middle-levels, leaving little or no challenge for your character. With Ob, we were given level-scaling. A system that really doesn't make any sense. In what world does every being grow stronger at the exact same rate without any limits? Again, a flaw replaced by another flaw.

My point is, to me it seems like the improvements made between MW and OB have either turned into disasters or then they have only helped the series move away from the RPG genre. The quality of the dialogue in Morrowind, the lack of choice/consequence situations and a linear mainquest were all flaws that were brought up with Morrowind, yet I find these in Oblivion, without any visible improvements. If BethSoft continues to focus on improving the more action/adventure-like features of the series then the least they could do is to market their next game as what it is instead of continuing to claim the game to be a RPG.

If you ask me, I'd say we should be expecting either a really bad RPG set in the Summerset Isles, or then a really good action/adventure game where you are taken on a journey to the land of the Altmer.
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post Sep 2 2006, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE(Rane @ Aug 29 2006, 02:13 AM) *

You know, as much as I'd wish I will be proven wrong, I fear that the next TES installment will be even more of an action-focused game. Sure, I might be making jokes about how less of a RPG Oblivion is most of the time and point out its failures the rest of time, but I guess what I really should be doing is voicing my opinion, sharing my views and trying to give ideas and constructive criticism somewhere where the developers could read it. Problem is, I'm not even sure where that would be. There was a time I saw the devs drop in at the official forums almost every day, commenting on whatever they felt like. Now, I'd dare to say that we might see a handful dev posts at its most every month.


Perhaps they learnt not to listen to the fans, Oblivion has sooo many features which the fans were begging for after Morrowind, then when they released it all the fans bitched about those features they asked for, hopefully they have learnt that people are stupid.

Everyone here is assuming that Bethseda will follow oblivion in a straight line trend, but if you look at Bethseda's history, they jump from one side to the other, the next game will likely have lots of quests and the most bugs and errors every recorded in a game.
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1234king   The Next TES   Aug 25 2006, 04:25 AM
Intestinal Chaos   Final Scrolls of Elder Fantasy Those crazy japan...   Aug 25 2006, 04:33 AM
The Metal Mallet   Hahahaha! Genius! I'll buy four...   Aug 25 2006, 04:35 AM
Intestinal Chaos   Hahahaha! Genius! I'll buy four...   Aug 25 2006, 04:38 AM
Ibis   I never played Final Fantasy so I cannot join in t...   Aug 25 2006, 06:36 AM
The Metal Mallet   If it was in Valenwood, we'll likely see canni...   Aug 25 2006, 01:36 PM
Ibis   Really?????? There are cannibals in the Valenwoods...   Aug 25 2006, 09:23 PM
The Metal Mallet   If I remember my Elder Scrolls lore correctly, pri...   Aug 25 2006, 09:36 PM
stargelman   If I remember my Elder Scrolls lore correctly, pr...   Aug 28 2006, 04:16 PM
Kiln   Lore is out. Simplicity and action is in. If TES...   Aug 28 2006, 05:13 PM
Ibis   The stargazer man ... "keep on looing (it) up...   Aug 27 2006, 09:33 PM
Rane   {And has some of the extras Morrowind had that Ob...   Aug 27 2006, 10:07 PM
Intestinal Chaos   {And has some of the extras Morrowind had that O...   Aug 28 2006, 06:39 AM
Ibis   God, Rane you can hit things right on the head...   Aug 27 2006, 11:19 PM
The Metal Mallet   Zing!   Aug 28 2006, 12:42 AM
Black Hand   Funny how we can't say what we REALLY think of...   Aug 28 2006, 06:28 PM
Rane   Awaits for Rane to delete post... Why would I d...   Aug 28 2006, 08:08 PM
Ibis   So honestly ... how many people think that Morrowi...   Aug 30 2006, 09:17 PM
Abu the Cat   Well, I'd like to see (it's kind of like a...   Aug 30 2006, 11:29 PM
Ibis   Yeh Abu ... I know what you mean. It'd be too ...   Aug 30 2006, 11:46 PM
Black Hand   Hmm, I dont think that an expansion into morrowind...   Aug 31 2006, 08:12 PM
The Metal Mallet   Yea, the does sound like a good idea Black. Just ...   Aug 31 2006, 09:17 PM
Intestinal Chaos   Even more absurd that my magic retarded fighter be...   Sep 1 2006, 02:44 AM
Ibis   Morrowind just made so much more sense on so many ...   Sep 1 2006, 07:44 PM
Ibis   Tadaaa!! My aquatic friend is down off the...   Sep 2 2006, 05:42 AM
jack cloudy   Yes, give it some time. After all, Morrowind is fa...   Sep 2 2006, 09:08 AM
The Metal Mallet   And so far, video game to-movie adaptations have b...   Sep 2 2006, 02:43 PM
Ibis   Good idea Jack and The Metal Mallet, a Tamrielic m...   Sep 2 2006, 03:23 PM
1234king   I guess the nest ES could be a movie, very unlikel...   Sep 3 2006, 06:54 AM
stargelman   I guess the nest ES could be a movie, very unlike...   Sep 4 2006, 05:10 PM
Black Hand   Erm. A Movie would be a terrible Idea IMHO. I neve...   Sep 3 2006, 07:11 AM
Black Hand   Aww man, i realize that I've been shooting dow...   Sep 3 2006, 08:57 AM
Ibis   Walking the path, and watching the path are two ...   Sep 3 2006, 04:58 PM
The Metal Mallet   That's why I suggested not to make a movie on ...   Sep 3 2006, 06:48 PM
Dantrag   If it looked significantly better than the typical...   Sep 3 2006, 08:49 PM
Ibis   Yes I would too Danny just out of curiousity. Mal...   Sep 3 2006, 11:12 PM
The Smart Patrol   I would very much like to see the next TES game se...   Sep 4 2006, 12:04 AM
Ibis   wow, I love your dream, Smart Patrol! It would...   Sep 4 2006, 04:58 PM
The Smart Patrol   wow, I love your dream, Smart Patrol! It woul...   Sep 7 2006, 03:36 PM


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