QUOTE(Dantrag @ Jun 8 2007, 03:39 AM)

somehow missed this post.
QUOTE(Pisces @ Jun 2 2007, 11:28 PM)

I don't see the US (or any other country) stepping up to the plate and putting forth significant resources into Dafur, its not that the UN hasn't asked (because it has), its that the world hasn't responded.
Also, the US wouldn't dare leave the UN as it would cripple their economy.
1. Since the UN is a pretty big chunk of world leaders, I'm going to say that the UN delegates didn't respond; not the world.
2. If the US left the UN, the economy would be fine, because as much as we depend on foreign imports, other ocuntries depend a bit more on our exports.
And my point with Iraq was that if the UN had more say-so, then Hussein's inhumane rule would have been put in check, and his arms (had they existed) would have been under control. Then there would be no war right now.
Also, when the UN tried to send food to Somalia, the food was taken by local warlords. I mean, they tried to do something, but didn't have the force to even complete it.
not to mention the Srebrenica Massacre, Rwandan Genocide...
1. Right world leaders, if only the US and Europe was democratic!
2. Who do you think negotiates trade disputes? Do you know how many pieces of paper flies around the world because an apple got bruised and someone mistook it for fireblight? Do you think industry will just settle down and reach a comprimise or that US diplomats are so incrediably loved that if the US tripled the numbers then they would be listened to by everyone? Without 3rd party negotiation speculation alone would cause a market collapse, not to mention how strongly the US depends on trade agreements, esp. with periphery states.
Hussein who was put in place by the US, the US having the veto, so a person who likes have their writing stamped with veto is going to suggest that motion?
You should see what happens to the food not brought by the UN. Crime is a problem, I don't know a country exempt so what would you expect going into a country without any infrastructure.
In Srebrenica there was 400 lightly armed Dutch troops vs an army of 1000-2000, US did not contribute anything, the Dutch requested assistance from NATO, NATO did not assist, the Dutch reported they were under attack to NATO, NATO did not assist, the Dutch reported the massacre, NATO did not assist. Then NATO continued to not assist for months after, not to mention the years before.
Rwanda there was a motion passed to increase the UN presence prior to the genocide, US vetoed, the US didn't even acknowledge it was genocide afterwards, I'm not sure if the US government has even openly stated it yet.
Yes I think the UN should have more power too but first of all, who is going to give it and second of all, who is going to cede it.
Oh and btw, I have plenty of ammo on Britian, France, Russia, China, Japan, Indonesia and pretty much wherever else too. Including my own selfish country which free rides off other country's militaries.
This post has been edited by Pisces: Jun 8 2007, 06:10 AM