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Did Oblivion Disappoint You?
Did Oblivion Disappoint You?
Yeah I was disappointed, it wasn't really what I'd hoped for... [ 7 ] ** [8.75%]
It was alright but it didn't really draw me in... [ 16 ] ** [20.00%]
No, it was a great game. Hats off to Bethsoft... [ 30 ] ** [37.50%]
Are you insane? It has consumed my life... [ 27 ] ** [33.75%]
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Kiln
post May 5 2006, 01:17 AM
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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

I finally got the chance to play Oblivion for the first time a few days ago and I just came up with the idea to get other people's opinions on this game...I played Oblivion for several hours, noting things that I liked and didn't like about it in my head.

I loved the new magic, combat, and stealth systems that Bethesda redesigned so well. The first thing that I found to be annoying was the bounty system, no warning is given to the player that he has a bounty until the guards have already caught you but that is a relatively small problem when compared with all that is good in this game.

Radiant AI was great...at first glance. Gameplay really seemed alive with the living, moving world that was created around me and I was amazed with it.

After a while though I noticed things that weren't so intelligent. Some of RAI's major flaws were with recognition of loved ones, friends, and reactions to events. Bethsoft boasted that the character's conversations would be lifelike and realistic when in reality they often are not. Sometimes when you stand near an NPC he will continuously repeat the same line over and over, which gets old fast.

Husbands and wives speak to eachother as if they were talking to a complete stranger and occasionally whenever an NPC tells another NPC about a bad even occurring, they seem unstirred or even happy about it...

Example of bad RAI conversations in the works:

Husband-"Kvatch has been attacked by the Deadra!"

Wife-"That is good to hear..."

Husband-"Indeed...it has been nice speaking with you...farewell."

Wife-"Farewell."

Another thing that I found to subtract from gameplay was the frequency of ruins, caves, and other points of interest that fill the land. As I was traveling through those beautiful woods I talked about earlier I ran into countless ruins and caves, filled with useless junk that made going into the places virtually useless.

The frequency of the caves and ruins is so great that whenever a player runs into one of the ruins they don't really feel a sense of accomplishment because they know what junk is inside and that nearly all of the ruins have similar layouts.

Things aren't sitting around on tables or scattered through the ruin to pick up freely as they were in Morrowind(I really liked that feature of morrowind), they are all locked up tight, making it pointless for anyone without a lockpick or spell to enter the ruins.

Oblivion seemed to be alot less diverse than Morrowind as well, all of the castles, ruins, and caves looked somewhat alike and there were alot less factions to join.

The glitches seemed to be rather frequent as well, not allowing me to drop some of the quest items after I got them and finished the quests involving them and sometimes the item doesn't register as being in your inventory when you're speaking with an NPC about the quest. Another glitch that I encountered was when allies were attacking something, they sometimes hit eachother and turned on one another without explanation...this actually happened several times while I played leading me to believe that it isn't a rare occurrence.

There were several good things about Oblivion but there were also lots of problems that kept me from really getting into it like I did Morrowind. In the end I think that Bethsoft removed too many of the fantasy elements and mainstreamed the game a bit too much.


So without any further discussion I'll give you my thoughts on Oblivion.

Good:
1.Great new combat, steal, and magic systems really add to immersion and keep the player interested.
2.Graphics are simply amazing, though they tend to get a bit simple at far off distances, they're still good.
3.The voice acting was well done with the important and quest characters but the other NPC characters had some fairly amateur sounding actors.
4.Fast travel speeds up gameplay so that you're not spending hours getting to your destination.
5.The quest compass keeps you from getting lost in the massive environment around you.

Bad:
1.Various and somewhat frequent glitches.
2.Repetetive and sometimes bad voice acting with some characters
3.Stiff character movements with animals and NPCs alike.
4.Horrible third person perspective.(In my opinion at least.)
5.Unfortunately the compass is always there, telling you where to go and keeping you from really exploring and doing your own thing without thought to the storyline.

Ugly:
1.RAI not too radiant after all...somewhat dull NPC behavior outside of quests.
2.No NPC recognition of relationships.
3.Poorly done conversations between NPCs.
4.Random and unexpected NPC behavior like attacking others for no apparent reason.

There is my view on this game, for me the problems distracted alot from the gameplay but overall I would say that it was pretty good despite the glitches and problems it had.

So was I disappointed? Yeah I guess I was...it just didn't have anything that was new or different by way of creatures and stuff to discover. It really seemed like too many of the unique things in the elderscrolls universe had been removed for me to get dragged into it like I did Morrowind but hey, that's just me...

I'd like to know what you think as well. smile.gif


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Kiln   Oblivion Disappointing?   May 5 2006, 01:17 AM
foxo   My biggest thing with oblivion is the lack of dept...   May 5 2006, 01:30 AM
Taillus   Well I really had to vote the hats off option. I w...   May 5 2006, 03:45 AM
DoomedOne   Here, I'll say what I liked an didn't The...   May 5 2006, 04:49 AM
Olav   I had to vote hats off' as well as I'm rea...   May 5 2006, 09:12 AM
iceman666   i think its a great...i know it has a few problems...   May 5 2006, 10:41 AM
Furious_George   Time playing OB (between wife and I): 300+ hours. ...   May 5 2006, 11:08 AM
HyPN0   ''It was alright but it didn't really ...   May 5 2006, 12:03 PM
Joryn   I voted are you insane. I know I shouldnt but alth...   May 5 2006, 12:36 PM
Furious_George   RAI isn't about to pass the Turing test, but t...   May 5 2006, 09:27 PM
HyPN0   Quoted For Thruth! I mean when you see that v...   May 5 2006, 09:44 PM
Pisces   They did state that things like that wouldn't ...   May 7 2006, 09:05 AM
Agent Griff   For what you just said Hypno I now respect your op...   May 7 2006, 09:53 AM
Ibis   Hmmm ... so has anyone tried to script anything li...   May 7 2006, 09:55 AM
Cadaver   I voted it was a good game. The hype was really t...   May 7 2006, 10:21 PM
Ibis   It seems like all the highwaymen and bandits attac...   May 8 2006, 08:11 AM
ThanadoS   Hmm i enjoyed oblivion alot for bout 2 weeks. The ...   May 8 2006, 08:35 AM
HyPN0   HAHA!So they DID state such a thing? :blink: ...   May 8 2006, 09:42 AM
Pisces   They did to a lot for 4 years, I don't know ...   May 8 2006, 10:51 AM
HyPN0   :lol: HAHA Well,who knows what would happen? I am...   May 8 2006, 11:34 AM
Joryn   So many people are being really harsh on Oblivion....   May 8 2006, 10:34 AM
DarkHunter   You know whats interesting about a previously clai...   May 8 2006, 11:25 AM
Agent Griff   The funny thing is that the devs have been tryin...   May 8 2006, 06:04 PM
Kiln   Morrowind was great for both the Xbox and the PC,...   May 8 2006, 08:17 PM
itsupthere   I like the game itself, I just don't like the ...   May 8 2006, 12:30 PM
Neela   My personal view on Oblivion is actually a contrad...   May 8 2006, 01:08 PM
Agent Griff   I'm not making this a system war, I don't ...   May 8 2006, 08:57 PM
Fethenwen   Aye, the "console-zation" of the game i...   May 8 2006, 09:51 PM
Kiln   Yeah it's a great game when compared to most o...   May 9 2006, 12:00 AM
ThePerson98   It only seemed to have one culture.. To tell the t...   May 9 2006, 03:52 AM
DarkHunter   Well, I haven't got Oblivion yet so... :( But ...   May 9 2006, 11:06 AM
Joryn   Pity there arent more people like me. I use both t...   May 9 2006, 11:24 AM
DarkHunter   The console, has caused a downgrade in all games, ...   May 9 2006, 11:47 AM
Joryn   Well if what you say is true then blame the deve...   May 9 2006, 12:18 PM
Kiln   This guy put my thoughts exactly, Joryn has the s...   May 9 2006, 01:10 PM
Furious_George   Let's try to keep this on topic. Obviously, Th...   May 9 2006, 02:06 PM
Agent Griff   Morrowind was fine on consoles because it was port...   May 9 2006, 06:02 PM
DarkHunter   I'm not saying that console users are morons o...   May 9 2006, 08:14 PM
Agent Griff   Ah well, the younger generation is pretty weird. A...   May 9 2006, 08:48 PM
DarkHunter   :lol: I agree with you, finally, and yes I am a li...   May 9 2006, 09:54 PM
ThanadoS   hmm regarding some of the later posts in here, i...   May 9 2006, 09:58 PM
Kiln   I think that perhaps the biggest problem with Obli...   May 14 2006, 10:08 PM
Fuzzy Knight   Missed this thread - but I most say I was a little...   May 21 2006, 02:54 PM
Joryn   I will DEFINATELY agree to that. There was just ...   May 21 2006, 06:57 PM
Dantrag   It's disappointing in some ways, but not enoug...   May 22 2006, 04:59 AM
Ibis   Well, my hubby Cain is thrilled with Oblivion beca...   May 22 2006, 07:16 AM
Furious_George   Shoot, Ibis, if I had a comp laying around that ...   May 23 2006, 11:34 AM
DarkHunter   Wonder where their going next? (Here's hoping ...   May 23 2006, 04:29 PM
Kiln   I dunno, I just hope that there's more fantasy...   May 27 2006, 09:30 PM
Agent Griff   The cities were much too generic and most books we...   May 28 2006, 11:31 AM
Pisces   Personally I thought the cities had plenty of char...   Jun 3 2006, 10:39 AM
Ibis   Bah! I like Anvil ... because my Khajiit Kingd...   Jun 3 2006, 11:18 AM
Pisces   The rumor about oblivion's content before obli...   Jun 3 2006, 11:25 AM
Ibis   Well, I will watch for BorderWatch on my map .... ...   Jun 3 2006, 02:03 PM
Lord DoomsDay   Under a starry sky over a vast grass plain baa...   Jun 3 2006, 10:55 PM
Ibis   Hahaha .. LordDoomsDay, I love your imaginative li...   Jun 4 2006, 07:54 AM
mplantinga   With the release of the first patch containing the...   Jun 10 2006, 01:18 AM
Pisces   The magic systems is AWESOME! Have you seen th...   Jun 12 2006, 10:21 AM
Fethenwen   Hey cool. I haven't tried out the soultrap thi...   Jun 12 2006, 10:55 AM
Fargoth   RAI was most dissapointing! Let me tell you a ...   Jun 13 2006, 10:46 AM
Agent Griff   Yeah, RAI was kinda dissapointing. I just read a p...   Jun 13 2006, 07:37 PM
Olav   Yeah, that was quite disappointing. These featur...   Jun 13 2006, 08:08 PM
Fethenwen   What? I've seen a lots of NPC's eating and...   Jun 13 2006, 09:27 PM
Olav   Yeah, but it was probably pre-scripted when they d...   Jun 13 2006, 10:16 PM
FafsaTheElf   A lot of NPCs do that, and some refuse to take the...   Jun 16 2006, 02:13 AM
Pisces   I agree with Fethenwen, only a few NPCs don't ...   Jun 16 2006, 03:07 AM
Agent Griff   I mean a usual NPC, not a member of the Fighters G...   Jun 16 2006, 10:45 AM
Pisces   I know the book store owner used a bow, but in t...   Jun 17 2006, 05:11 AM
Ibis   Well, as so often happens with creative endeavors ...   Jun 17 2006, 12:13 AM
Geonox   if you honestly ask me it wasn't realy disapoi...   Jun 17 2006, 10:32 AM
Ibis   Indeed Geo, I'm playing Morrowind too. You jus...   Jun 17 2006, 03:58 PM
hunter14   what i did not like was that u could not play mult...   Jun 19 2006, 05:18 AM
DarkHunter   Online.... No. That would be wrong. There'd be...   Jun 19 2006, 11:56 AM
The Metal Mallet   I think Bethesda wanted a more action-oriented gam...   Jun 19 2006, 08:57 PM
Ibis   Yes .... set in the Sommerset Isles with the Alt...   Jun 19 2006, 11:22 PM
ThePerson98   The whole NPCs not doing anything you guys are tal...   Jun 20 2006, 02:00 AM
DarkHunter   The Almer's must die... I even killed them all...   Jun 20 2006, 02:37 AM
Ibis   Good job, Hunter. :P   Jun 20 2006, 06:22 AM
Kiln   Lets keep this on topic please. :)   Jun 20 2006, 06:52 PM
Tellie   Well, sure Iloved Oblivion, it was a great game......   Jun 20 2006, 11:49 PM
Lady Saga   I voted "No", hats off to Bethesda (even...   Feb 16 2013, 08:27 PM
King Of Beasts   I really enjoyed Oblivion. It had a unique feel to...   Feb 16 2013, 08:30 PM
King Coin   I hadn't played Morrowind, I wasn't all ov...   Feb 16 2013, 09:07 PM
SubRosa   I voted the Are You Insane option, as Oblivion was...   Feb 16 2013, 09:25 PM
King Coin   I never get psyched up about any game, and will n...   Feb 16 2013, 09:31 PM
Lady Saga   I voted the Are You Insane option, I almost vot...   Feb 17 2013, 06:24 AM
mirocu   For me, it's almost perfect... The only way ...   Feb 17 2013, 09:26 AM
Lady Saga   Same here. But I do play frequently and c´mon, it...   Feb 17 2013, 02:03 PM
Acadian   ... if I read too much criticism on one of my fav...   Feb 17 2013, 04:03 PM
Lady Saga   Quoted for Truth. I thank thee for spelling th...   Feb 17 2013, 04:20 PM
mALX   Voted: "Are you insane? It has consumed my l...   Feb 16 2013, 09:52 PM
mirocu   Another vote for "Are you insane" Like ...   Feb 16 2013, 10:12 PM
mALX   Another vote for "Are you insane" Like...   Feb 16 2013, 10:24 PM
Destri Melarg   Acadian thought I was an annoying hyper teen boy ...   Feb 16 2013, 11:54 PM
Colonel Mustard   I voted "it was alright, but it didn't dr...   Feb 17 2013, 12:04 AM
mirocu   I voted "it was alright, but it didn't d...   Feb 17 2013, 12:06 AM
King Of Beasts   [quote name='Colonel Mustard' post='153245' date=...   Feb 17 2013, 03:02 AM
Kiln   It wasn't really forum speculation that caused...   Feb 17 2013, 12:48 AM
McBadgere   I voted for consumed... Not a great shocker that....   Feb 17 2013, 05:59 AM
Grits   I voted It’s a Great Game. I got it years after it...   Feb 17 2013, 02:36 PM
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