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post Mar 22 2021, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(Sakiri @ Mar 22 2021, 07:59 PM) *

Default UI looks atrocious. It was designed for consoles and doesn't fit well with a keyboard and mouse.

Funny thing, I never had an issue with Oblivion's UI. And I'm the kind of crow who HATES it when web pages are made to suit phones and tablets with overly blocky stuff to click on.


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post Mar 22 2021, 08:32 PM
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There's no problem with it, it's just not set up for ideal PC controls. That's why the quick menu is a radial dial. That's a console thing. It also drives me nuts.

And I don't remember how to use it.

And by atrocious, I mean "huge and obnoxious, even in 1080p."

Not even joking, the text is WAY too big.


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post Mar 22 2021, 09:08 PM
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Yeah, I can see that. It's made to be looked at a TV from across the room tongue.gif


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post Mar 22 2021, 09:32 PM
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Like I said, designed for consoles.

Just ONCE I'd like to see a modern AAA game release for both platforms that have separate UIs. That or design for PC and back port.

I mean heck, Skyrim SE got trash audio quality compared to PS4. In fact, I'm using the PS4 files and they sound MUCH better.

They get cheap and lazy when it comes to PC, when I'd argue PC players play their games longer on average due to modding.

Also I can't find anything good in my YouTube subscription list tonight that I don't want to save for tomorrow.

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post Mar 22 2021, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(Sakiri @ Mar 22 2021, 09:32 PM) *

Like I said, designed for consoles.

Yup. Bigger market. We say PC Master Race but really we often get the short stick due to this. Same when Deus Ex 2 was made.




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post Mar 22 2021, 10:15 PM
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For most games this is true but mods give TES games a longer life on PC.

Consoles get mods now, but for example, no third party assets on PS4 and massively restricted mod count and space taken on Xbox.

My Skyrim install is around 80 gigs. The game by itself is 12. The rest is mods. You cannot do that on console.


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post Mar 23 2021, 01:47 AM
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Now to ascend to an even higher realm of gaming VR!


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post Mar 23 2021, 06:54 AM
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I don't have binocular vision so VR gives me some awful time.


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post Mar 23 2021, 10:38 AM
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About PC games having a longer life (than their console equivalents), especially those that allow extensive player-centric modification. While that's good corporate PR and drums up enthusiasm for their future products, I suspect it's by and large considered a negative in the corporate world. They're rather us buy a new edition of the franchise every year or two rather than continue playing a game they can no longer make money off us with. If title have long play-lives, best stuff them with microtransactions and the like. Or so I believe they think.

Consoles are a surer bet for them, as they are 'closed' systems, in which all aspects are controlled by the equipment manufacturers and publishing houses. They lose some of that control on PC, hence it must play second fiddle, much as I long for the reverse.

Does any of this make sense? Prolly not. tongue.gif


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post Mar 23 2021, 11:51 AM
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It makes sense, except for the part about it being a negative that they've got a longer shelf life.

Those invested in say, the elder scrolls series, are still going to buy the newest and shiniest game for the most part, provided it's still moddable as the last one.

Or more so.

This particular franchise is incredibly defined by it's ability to be modded to high heck. If they ever did take that away in favor of the atrocity that is the Creation Club, I'd imagine their PC sales would tank, hard. The community comes up with better things than their CC authors do, in general.

But anyways.

In laws supposed to be going to get tested today. Here's hoping they actually did go. Clinic apparently had no time for them yesterday. Getting tested around here is a pain in the butt because there's very few openings... you get tested by appointment.


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post Mar 23 2021, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(Decrepit @ Mar 23 2021, 04:38 AM) *

About PC games having a longer life (than their console equivalents), especially those that allow extensive player-centric modification. While that's good corporate PR and drums up enthusiasm for their future products, I suspect it's by and large considered a negative in the corporate world. They're rather us buy a new edition of the franchise every year or two rather than continue playing a game they can no longer make money off us with. If title have long play-lives, best stuff them with microtransactions and the like. Or so I believe they think.

Consoles are a surer bet for them, as they are 'closed' systems, in which all aspects are controlled by the equipment manufacturers and publishing houses. They lose some of that control on PC, hence it must play second fiddle, much as I long for the reverse.

Does any of this make sense? Prolly not. tongue.gif

Well, that would’ve made sense before XBox and PlayStation started allowing mods on their machines. Also, as Skyrim has unfortunately shown, people are willing to buy the same game over and over again. I think this is a bad precedent as it makes game companies complacent. “Hey guys! Why create a new game when we can just add ray effects to an old game and market as a new edition? We’ll sell millions more copies with a minimal amount of work!”


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post Mar 23 2021, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Mar 23 2021, 01:15 PM) *

QUOTE(Decrepit @ Mar 23 2021, 04:38 AM) *

About PC games having a longer life (than their console equivalents), especially those that allow extensive player-centric modification. While that's good corporate PR and drums up enthusiasm for their future products, I suspect it's by and large considered a negative in the corporate world. They're rather us buy a new edition of the franchise every year or two rather than continue playing a game they can no longer make money off us with. If title have long play-lives, best stuff them with microtransactions and the like. Or so I believe they think.

Consoles are a surer bet for them, as they are 'closed' systems, in which all aspects are controlled by the equipment manufacturers and publishing houses. They lose some of that control on PC, hence it must play second fiddle, much as I long for the reverse.

Does any of this make sense? Prolly not. tongue.gif

Well, that would’ve made sense before XBox and PlayStation started allowing mods on their machines. Also, as Skyrim has unfortunately shown, people are willing to buy the same game over and over again. I think this is a bad precedent as it makes game companies complacent. “Hey guys! Why create a new game when we can just add ray effects to an old game and market as a new edition? We’ll sell millions more copies with a minimal amount of work!”


That is a completely separate complaint and a very valid one.

Though I'd have liked to see a remaster of one of the older games before Skyrim. That's what you do when you remaster, you do it to an older game so that it runs on newer hardware better, and snags in customers that missed it when it was current. Morrowind could use a fresh coat of paint, for example. Even though I modded the crap out of it and made it look somewhat reasonable( https://i.imgur.com/LK1yUHZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/g6bVVUs.jpg), it really could use a new coat of paint. Same goes with Oblivion( https://i.imgur.com/jR9SpIk.png https://i.imgur.com/9qJjkZW.png)

To remaster Skyrim though was just a greed move. They moved it to the FO4 engine basically, and resold it. Granted, I didn't pay for it(I got the free version since I had the Legendary Edition with all the expansions), its still a shady thing. And I don't think you can buy LE easily anymore.

I take a lot of scenery screenshots. >.> those were just a few I took of my modded setup. Oblivion is set up to use an ENB, but I don't have one installed. Morrowind however, the lighting is just fabulous.

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post Mar 23 2021, 06:14 PM
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I am here. Talk.


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post Mar 23 2021, 06:28 PM
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Hi bird.

Sister sent me a box today!


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post Mar 23 2021, 06:36 PM
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A box! She sent you a whole box!?? ohmy.gif



Entertainment for HOURS!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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A box of goodies. I'll have pictures, even though it's likely not impressive, when it gets here I suppose.

Also, Costco is coming to Täby. People are already kvetching.


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QUOTE(Sakiri @ Mar 23 2021, 06:56 PM) *

A box of goodies. I'll have pictures, even though it's likely not impressive, when it gets here I suppose.

Sounds like the care package from How I Met Your Mother biggrin.gif


Also, Costco? Not surprised. We've been Americanized for decades now.

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post Mar 23 2021, 07:18 PM
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Yeah, I'm not overly fussed, it's a 5.5h drive without traffic, so I'll never go.


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I'm youtubing.


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I'm about to shower, then change the bed linens.


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