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[Intestinal Chaos]

*shivers at the preceeding posts*

I thought I had escaped the madness on this site! I'm hounded!, is there no end?!?!?


As I see let alone and be left alone. You avoid me, I avoid you. It all works out better that way. I detest (most) other people and I do all that is in my power to make sure I don't have to interact with them.


Look at this! Does this look like the face of someone who wants social interaction? If you are of the ages 14-18 then apparently it does! I can't stress how much I dislike people in general. With the petty clique wars (and they do happen) and the annoying little recruitment drives to bulster the ranks of their kind for the coming battles. Live and let live!

When I walk through a crowded hall, do you know what I see? I seething mass of corpses-to-be who writhe like maggots as they go about their disgusting business of clogging up the halls (and feasting on the remanents of their fallen comrades).

Like scavengers to a fresh slaughter they rush up to the tables to stake clame to their territory, woe be to those who get in the way. That would be me, by the way. The jump into the lines, once again fulfilling their maggot-like roles, and feast upon crudely prepared food in the most disgusting way imaginable and then leaving behind the remains and they slither off to the next destination to defile with no second thought about the poor janitor, who has seen so much abuse at the hands of these vile creatures that he no longer has a free will of his own, who has to mop up after their filth.

I go to a classroom, you know what I see? The horrific empty stares of countless brainwashed children put in rows, like some fell crop, as they pound off verse and line to some faceless entity that they know only by title. I sit there and try to pass the time as these strange soulless dolls complete their tasks as ordered by the Faceless. Eventually there is a sharp noise and there is a change in the doll-children, the instantly grow foul and demonic. They shreak in their evil tongue and wail with glee as they are let loose upon the world.

I go to an assembly, you know what I see? Darkness incarnate. Pleasure slaves dance before a cheering crowd of slovelnly beings, tripping over themselves and causing destruction to everything around. I'm constantly bumped into and crushed by the beings that I have been forced to exist next to. The beasts defile me with their disgustingly slimy and filthy appendages (if I dare call it even that). Eventually the carcasses of the pleasure slaves are dragged away ushering in a wave of testasterone and the stench of sweat. These two things are soon followed by an army of sorts. They are all dressed in uniform and ripple with muscle as they are given praise by the bench-beasts. A representation of the civilazation to be conquered is thrust into the middle of the arena and ritualisticly battered by the representation of ours. A booming voice declares the right to victory and the ritual is completed with a chant and the spilling of mascot blood. Then the beings are cut loose and the rush from the building, as if they were in danger, but the only danger is themselves as they trample eachother (and me) underfoot.

This is only a small sample of how I feel about people and school. *cringe*


The horror....

This post has been edited by Intestinal Chaos: Jan 9 2006, 05:40 PM

[Megil Tel-Zeke]

oki then

rather depressing way of looking at things. too each their own though .

[gamer10]

Channler, you probably wouldn't like my school as much if you learned basically all the teachers are pretty left-wing.  One of out staff members who handled disciplinary problems, yard-duty, and all that stuff that makes him an antagonist (though he's still a cool guy) is republican, but that's it.  They're extremely respectful of everybody, as well as the student body. 

Well, I seem to live in a place where nearly everyone is Republican, including my family.

Anyway, Report cards came home today. . .

This post has been edited by gamer10: Jan 9 2006, 10:10 PM

[Channler]

Channler, you probably wouldn't like my school as much if you learned basically all the teachers are pretty left-wing.  One of out staff members who handled disciplinary problems, yard-duty, and all that stuff that makes him an antagonist (though he's still a cool guy) is republican, but that's it.  They're extremely respectful of everybody, as well as the student body. 

Hey doomed, I hate to break it to you but if your between the age of 22 - 36 and are currently teaching highschool, there is a good chance that there pretty liberal.

I've had 1 teacher threaten to fail me because I refused to believe what she said about her political views (If I'm not mistaked thats a big No-No on the teachers side). The other... 6 teachers like to argue with me... hmm.

Also, on another note, most of my teachers are black females. And if I'm not mistaken they tend to lean towards more feministic (?) and liberal views.

Hah, I'm a Saint in first period, and a Devil in fourth

Anyways, you all are depressing me with your school stuff. This last week I've gone out of my way to try and talk (very nicely) to these 3 kids that never talk in my American History class.... I think they barked at me.. I mean, you've got to look at the box from the outside. Some people want to help and be friends, and you (rather some of you) chase them off, and thusly turning them against your self described clique.

But in lighter news.. I don't feel like crap today!! After about cutting off my finger in broomstick hockey, turning my muscles into jelly (weightlifting), and staying up for 48 hours straight... I've finally had 8 hours for some R&R.

Well I'm going to talk to one of my friends at subway now so I'll ttyl

[Intestinal Chaos]

I could go on, OH how I could go on. But I think it best you not see things from my point of view, lest your minds be tainted the horror that is my everyday.

[Florodine of Hlaalu]

Hmm well school is bad, but im not horrified by people in general, just kinda the way they can be. Like i can't stand swearing, i know people do, but i can't stand it, it sounds so tacky, (no offense to anyone) and most people at school do. So out of school i have this great group of friends. It's awesome, so i may hate school, but i do have a great circle of friends

[Intestinal Chaos]

People... are just icky. How can anyone stand being even near to a child of the maggot.

I feel blessed by the fact that I have never been to any form of concert, if that's how I feel about a congregation of those who are my fellow classmates and peers just imagine the horror that would be invoked by the sight of disgusting slimy shirtless bodies writhing in tune to the almost eldritch wailings of several guitars.

[Kindred Spirit]

I could go on, OH how I could go on. But I think it best you not see things from my point of view, lest your minds be tainted the horror that is my everyday.

Wow. And I thought my point of view was depressing. You take the cake.

People are too funny to hate. I can rarely muster up anything more serious than minor dislike for them. I don't care enough to hate, or even enough to dislike a person seriously. And I don't even dislike most people. A lot of people are casual friends with me (mostly because of my wonderful sense of humor, it certainly isn't my looks), and these are the people who I like to hang around with, when I'm in school. There are some people who, while I personally don't like them, deserve respect. And then there's the long list of people I only have a minor dislike for. But they can't be that bad. After all, they give me something to smile about.

There aren't too many people in my school who are mindless idiots. Most of them have at least something worth daying, at some point or another. I can't speak for your school, I've never been there (to my knowledge). But at my school, while there are certainly the trendy people, the sheeps, the mindless drones, there are still people who aren't worthless, people who can hold an intelligent conversation, or think in a way I don't, draw conclusions and oppinions I wouldn't come to.

And even the drones are good for a grin once in a while. I'm usually too tired to actually laugh, but smiling doesn't take too much energy. Stupid people are rather funny to observe. I hope I'm not one of them.

Hmm well school is bad, but im not horrified by people in general, just kinda the way they can be. Like i can't stand swearing, i know people do, but i can't stand it, it sounds so tacky, (no offense to anyone) and most people at school do. So out of school i have this great group of friends. It's awesome, so i may hate school, but i do have a great circle of friends

Cursing? Eh, there's a time and a place for cursing, most people just use curses inappropriately. Cursing is supposed to show emotion, and in a lot of cases, it's better to keep it to yourself. My primary uses of cursing are: a, when I hurt myself, b, when it's necesary to make a joke funny. Yes, a lot of people use cuss words at the wrong time, or insensitively. Some people are particularly offended by certain words, and it's better to avoid cursing around people untill you know them well enough to avoid offending them. (for example, one of my friends doesn't care about any curse words you can throw at her, but she hates the F-word, for various reasons I won't go into) So, while cursing itself can be fine, you have to moderate yourself. Besides, if you use a word a lot, you make it lose it's power when if comes from you seriously.


The teachers at my school are a pretty decent mix. My math teacher's a Republican, a very serious one. I have her first block, so it's there that I have to say the pledge of allegiance. And, since I don't say that, I get in trouble if I don't stand up and mouth along and pretend to say the pledge. (she has given people detention for not standing up and saying the pledge) My Global Studies teacher is a liberal. Most of my teachers try to keep their preference unknown, because it shouldn't make much of a difference in school, so it isn't important. But their politics tend to sneak out a bit from time to time, and there's a decent hodge-podge of both in our school.

I have friends who are Republicans, I have friends who aren't. Most people in our area aren't Republican, but I see no reason to dislike a person based purely on their political oppinion. There's more to a person than that, so why should I (or anyone else) judge a person on that one trait alone? As far as I know, most people don't do that, and that's one case where I'm glad to be with the majority. (as far as I know, anyways, but I have a rather limited perspective, living in only one are, I can only judge that one area, and not knowing everyone particularly well, I have to guess on my impressions of them, which could be wrong)

[Channler]

The teachers at my school are a pretty decent mix. My math teacher's a Republican, a very serious one. I have her first block, so it's there that I have to say the pledge of allegiance. And, since I don't say that, I get in trouble if I don't stand up and mouth along and pretend to say the pledge. (she has given people detention for not standing up and saying the pledge) My Global Studies teacher is a liberal. Most of my teachers try to keep their preference unknown, because it shouldn't make much of a difference in school, so it isn't important. But their politics tend to sneak out a bit from time to time, and there's a decent hodge-podge of both in our school.

Why wouldn't you say the Pledge of Allegiance? (simple question, possibly warrenting a very complex answer from you Kindred )

I understand that you (lets see if I ican get it right..) athiest.. or agnostic (?) but that really just requires you not to say the.. Under God.. part of the Pledge.

Personally I enjoy saying the PoA. Why? I couldn't tell you, other then it makes me feel like i've reaffirmed my position and my role I have in this nation. (the US one that is)

I just don't think its a battle that deserves that much effort.

Minque! How bout some cake?

EDIT: Oh, and IsChaos... Have you ever tried to be.. err.. open? Like not on the internet, but in real life (I KNOW IT EXISTS!!!). I think you will find that after you make significant human contact, you will forever enjoy it.

This post has been edited by Channler: Jan 10 2006, 04:44 AM

[Megil Tel-Zeke]

he could simply not be a citizen?

I don't say the pledge of allegiance.

[DoomedOne]

But channler, that's just it, they're not in those age group, its simply because I live in an incredibly progressive (and sadly also me-generation'd) county.

Three of the teachers are over 60, three more are over 50 (or at least 40) and one is in his 20s(possibly the most apolitical one as well), the rest I haven't the faintest.

Most of them are incredibly wise, intelligent people who have been all over the world and though they could teach at any other schools it was important to them to teach alternative thinkers and students who had harder times. The school in the county that is laughed at the most has some of the best teachers because they know how to break barriers and teach to all different types of students.

EDIT: This is the way I say the pledge of allegiance, it used to piss my teachers off when I lived in my old town, a ski-town.

I pledge of allegiance to the world
And every aspect of life included
And to the people
For which they stand
One People
All are bonded
Interdependent,
Equal, Free
And Responsible,
All.

(That what I remember of it, it's sort of hard, we had tyo say it every day in class after 9-11 and I switched it around in protest because I think national barriers are ridiculous and therefore I heavily disagree with the pledge of allegiance)

This post has been edited by DoomedOne: Jan 10 2006, 05:03 AM

[Channler]

Hehe, you also live in CA

But yes, I understand.

However, I get really mad when students blindly follow their teachers political veiws. Heh, I remeber in my 9th grade english my teacher was speaking out against the democrats that were bashing bush, and most of the students were like, "Yea! We should burn em all, there all idiots.."

And then, I get into my journalism class, with a liberal teacher, and alot of students from yes, my ninth grade english class and shes like, and I quote, "Bush is a F'n dumb@ss"

Guess what the students exact words were?

[Florodine of Hlaalu]

Im not saying anything cause im unsure, however shouldn't this be in the Waiting4Oblivion Parliament? Just wondering

[DoomedOne]

I rarely see that. As I said, student with right-wing leanings are much more comfortable at this school than main streem schools even though in the mainstream ones its unacceptable to be badgerish with political opinions. The reason is students with right-wing leanings are encouraged to voice what they think, and the student body doesn't mock what they say because it's disrespectful and heravily frowned upon here, so instead of just being called a dumbass by someone sitting clkear across the room with delivered reasonable opposition.

Some of the curriculum is being called into question though. My history teacher during US history started with the native americans and ended with the 1980s, and did everythin inbetween with less enphases and 1776-1860 since you get that time period in middle school already. He's being told though he has tot each the content standard, which don't include indian history or 1860-1980 history, and most students, including right-wing ones, agree he teaches in an objective way, yet the district is saying he outs a leftist spin on things because he chooses to include the ommitted, it pisses me off.

[Channler]

I personally would love to go to a VERY (even if my school leans more liberal) Liberal school. All because, you can't learn to deal with a problem (not the greatest word there) unless you are at the heart of it. However, I don't think everything the left says is wrong, I really just think their method at approaching it is the problem.

That is why I am doing alot of study on Islam, and the Middle Eastern Culture. I find the Middle East (this is where my teaching/historian side goes crazy with excitement) a place of grand intrigue and so much history and culture just setting there, waiting for eyes to devour it. Islamic culture up untill about the late 19c is my current place of study.. after that the radicalists start coming out. ANd in my opinion, they are destroying their own culture.

[Florodine of Hlaalu]

Yes i love islamic culture. Saladin (Sala-ah-hadin) was such a great ruler, that centuries after the crusade the french claimed that since he was half Aryan, that he was of direct relation to their former kings. So many of their kings were greater then that of christondom. However i think back then everyone was at fault, and it seemed like many of the christians didn't really believe. Which i find sad since so many died for it, something Jesus would most certainly not want

[Channler]

I pledge of allegiance to the world
And every aspect of life included
And to the people
For which they stand
One People
All are bonded
Interdependent,
Equal, Free
And Responsible,
All.

I am very Nationalistic. I believe the good of the American citizin should be first on our minds. After we can take care of ourr own problems then we should push on.

I'll change my opinion on that once everyone in the world will unite under one banner. However, I fear that I will be long dead before that will happen.

Heres a question that you might want to answer in the other thread...

Is there anything wrong for expressing your love for your country?

[Kindred Spirit]

Megil- I am a citizen. I just don't like saying it.

Why wouldn't you say the Pledge of Allegiance? (simple question, possibly warrenting a very complex answer from you Kindred  )

Possibly a complex answer, possibly not. I'll get to that at the end of this post.

I understand that you (lets see if I ican get it right..) athiest.. or agnostic (?) but that really just requires you not to say the.. Under God.. part of the Pledge.

That's part of it. But not all that important, I know that not everyone shares my worldview, and I have no problem whatsoever with saying "One nation, Under God."

Personally I enjoy saying the PoA. Why? I couldn't tell you, other then it makes me feel like i've reaffirmed my position and my role I have in this nation. (the US one that is)

That works for some people, I'm not one of them, unfortunately.

I just don't think its a battle that deserves that much effort.

It isn't. That's why I just sit there and move my mouth in motion to the words. (while thinking my own version of the pledge to the flag) I'd put my version up, but it'd probably get me in trouble.

I don't like saying the pledge for a lot of reasons. For one thing, because they (specifically my math teacher, most other people understand that not everyone likes to say it) try to force us to say it, which kinda violates the whole freedom of speach(sp?) thing. For another, I disagree politically with a lot of things the nation has done. Yet another reason is that I don't pledge my allegiance lightly. (except in jest, as in my version of the PoA) If I'm going to pledge my allegiance to this country, that means that I am going to back this country with everything I've got. If I'm going to be saying the PoA, it means that I am 100% loyal to the nation at the moment. It means I'd be willing to help out in anything the country is doing (that I as a person know about at the time of pledging allegiance). I'm not, I don't, I never have, I never will. I'd say I'm about 79% loyal to the country. I don't support everything the country does, and thus, I can't swear allegiance to it, it would violate my code of ethics.

Eh, screw it, I'll put my version up. It isn't that bad. Note: This is my own, personal, version of the pledge of allegiance. It is a joke, it has been a joke since I thought of it. It is not serious, which is why it doesn't violate my principles the way saying the real version might, because this is intended in jest, while the real pledge of allegiance is intended to be serious.

I pledge allegiance to the fags
who run the United States of America,
And to the republic,
in which they sit,
One nation,
under Canada,
with liberty and justice for some.

EDIT:

Is there anything wrong for expressing your love for your country?

No, certainly not. It isn't wrong express love for your country, unless you are putting other countries down, or forcing other people to accept your views. And from what I can tell about you, I'd say you probably don't do either.

This post has been edited by Kindred Spirit: Jan 10 2006, 06:22 AM

[Florodine of Hlaalu]

¿Tengo una pregunta para kindred? (i have a question for kindred) If you're so against the country, why not move to canada? If your family is the same way and all, or if they aren't just ignore politics till you're eighteen and move there. There's no use grumbling about how bad it is here. It's just a suggestion

[Kindred Spirit]

¿Tengo una pregunta para kindred? (i have a question for kindred) If you're so against the country, why not move to canada? If your family is the same way and all, or if they aren't just ignore politics till you're eighteen and move there.  There's no use grumbling about how bad it is here.  It's just a suggestion

I'm too young. I'm not so against the country, it just came off that way. I'll try to re-clarify. As for ignoring politics untill I can move, well, that would mean forcing ignorance upon myself, which is something I try not to do(not sure how well it's working ). You're right, though, grumbling does no (or little) good unless it becomes outright protest, which it won't, and even protest doesn't always (or often) help out as much as it's meant to.

Now, for a re-clarification.

Upon re-reading my post, I can see where you're coming from. I was being whiny.

First off, I do love this country, and the ideals that it stands for. This country has done some wonderful things. I excersice my freedom of speach quite often, especially for the purposes of satire, and I do not enjoy having it taken away by anyone, for any reason, even if it is only to force me to say something I may have said anyways.

Next, like I said, I do not and never will pledge my allegiance falsely, unless it is for the purposes of satire. If a pledge is meant to be taken seriously, then I will take it (or not take it) just as seriously. The Pledge of Allegiance is meant to be taken seriously, and implies a serious loyalty to the nation. Untill I absolutely approve of everything the nation does, I will not be able to honestly claim absolute loyalty seriously. I am against certain things that the government (currently the Bush administration, but I'd probably find things to dislike no matter who was the president) has done. For an example, I'm pro-choice, in favor of women being able to get abortions. There are other things as well, but I'm typing this before school, so I'm on a deadline here.

Finally, as for my anti-establishment PoA, well, it was intended as a joke whenI thought of it, and I still use it only for a joke. It isn't intended to be used seriously.

But I believe it was put best by Channler when he said:

I just don't think its a battle that deserves that much effort.

It doesn't deserve a lot of effort. I'm not going to say the pledge untill I can say it and mean it. I'm serious about promising my loyalty and allegiance. But I'm not going to try to reform the government over something small like this.