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Posted by: Tellie Feb 13 2011, 10:03 PM

So anyone else looking forward to ME3 later this year?

I thought I should start this little topic where we can share anything about the upcoming game: Theories, wishes, rumours etc etc.

SO get cracking.

Posted by: Lord Revan Feb 13 2011, 11:10 PM

Yes, I love how the Bioware's gone about the continuity so far. They've got a pretty good track record as far as content and story goes. The main problem I have are the vehicle systems. The Hammerhead was less interesting than the Mako in ME 1. Hopefully, third time's the charm, otherwise best to leave vehicles out.

BTW, anyone notice the only crew member of either game that can't die cannonically other than Shepard and Joker is Liara T'Soni?

Posted by: King Coin Feb 13 2011, 11:38 PM

I'm looking forward to it, but Skyrim kinda over shadows it at least for me.

Posted by: Tellie Feb 14 2011, 12:48 AM

I have to agree on your points Revvie except for one small thing. If you really and then I mean REALLY mess up the so called 'suicide mission' you can lose Shepard, at which point you can't continue with that character, lest you load and do it over again, There is even a special cutscene where Joker informs the Illusive Man about what happened.

Naturally I wouldn't have experienced this personally, my level 30 Adept is faaar too good for that but one of my friends actually had this happen to him.

Me I'm hoping they bring back Ashley, as Shepard wan'ts his girlfriend back (yes he stayed loyal to her).

Then again, my level 30 Soldier was not as faithful and grabbed the chance to score with Miranda.

Posted by: King Coin Feb 14 2011, 01:35 AM

One of my friends did a speed run of the game just to see the cut scene where everyone dies. Apparently that's the way the Illusive man wants it judging from his expression at the end.

Posted by: Kiln Feb 14 2011, 05:10 PM

I liked ME 2 but really I wish they hadn't changed it so far from the first game. The mechanics are very different, I played through the first game right before I played the second game and the actual gameplay was very alien to me. I just felt that the first game just played more naturally than the second one.

I did however like the way they managed to tie things that happened in the first game so well into the second one. Hopefully they do a good job with this in ME 3 as well.

One thing that I can say about Bioware games is that generally their relationships with other characters and their voice acting are done extremely well, better than any other company IMO. They really go all out when searching for voice actors and hire some of the best in the business.

Posted by: King Coin Feb 15 2011, 06:33 AM

I thought Mass Effect 2 was better than the original in every way except 2 instances:

AMMO

and

Weapon selection

I hated that they made you collect "heat sinks" like bullets. What's the point? I hated that my sniper rifle had 10 shots.

I also liked finding new weapons in the first game and applying mods to them. ME2 didn't have very many weapons to find and almost no mods.

Posted by: Kiln Feb 15 2011, 09:28 AM

Agreed with everything above, these were the mechanics I was talking about. I liked the huge amount of weapons and customisation in the first game, the second game lacked that a little IMO. I still loved it because of the characters and story but really the game focused too much on recruiting ppl and there's not much story there otherwise.

Posted by: King Coin Feb 15 2011, 07:50 PM

Ah. I thought by mechanics you were talking about how the combat was a little more action oriented. I thought that cover worked better in the second game, and I liked how headshots and such did more damage than body or limb shots.

I really liked the story in the second one as well. It really pulled me in. The first one I thought was fun but I was still very disconnected from the game.

Posted by: Ahrenil Feb 16 2011, 01:18 AM

I kinda liked the system personally. In ME1 I found myself able to park myself a distance away and just spam into the distance and things would die, in ME2 with the ammo requirements it meant you had to play more tactically, suddenly each firefight had a bit more meaning, the way you used your powers was a little more considered, I felt it added more depth and made combat a bit more fun.

Posted by: Lord Revan Feb 16 2011, 01:45 AM

The heatsink/ammo system has some merit in terms changing of gameplay, but it falls flat in story integration.

First, in less than a year it's in the hands of every punk on the street and his granny. You'd think something so revolutionary would be better regulated by whomever developered it. Even the mechs on a ship that's been lost for ten years have thermal clip technology (Jacob's Loyalty Mission).

Second, they're more of a gameplay nerf than upgrade. The new "heatsinks" seem pretty bleeding edge compared to the old technology. While ME 1 sinks actually dissipate heat as their name suggests, the ME 2 sinks semm to just... burn out. Perhaps an "improved" version in ME 3 will only need replacing if the character actually overheats the weapon

Still, the ammo system in ME 2 can be overlooked so long as the player A) utilizes their class' powers and maintains good fire disipline.

Posted by: RagingMudcrab Feb 16 2011, 08:12 AM

I'm more of a Dragon Age fan, but yeah, I'm excited for ME3.

Posted by: Tellie Feb 16 2011, 09:06 PM

I have to agree with Ahrenil on this one, ME 1 felt rushed and incomplete compared to the second, where we got a lot more individual story, and the heat sinks, while I can agree with Revvie's first point I like it.

Due to my (long) experience with FPS games and similar I find it too easy when I have endless ammunition (true FPS are a bit more difficult on xbox compared to a computer but not much).

By bringing 'ammo' into the equation the situation becomes more tactical and you have to conserve your shots instead of just blasting away with a creepy smile on you face and the internal sound of evil laughter.

Posted by: King Coin Feb 16 2011, 10:49 PM

I would have liked the heatsinks better if your gun still cooled off with time.

Before the game came out I though that it would be if you overheated your gun and needed to shoot NOW you could change the heatsink and then get back to shooting.

Anyone play Mechwarrior? I imagined it would have worked like the coolant flush in the Mechwarrior games.

Posted by: Destri Melarg Mar 14 2011, 11:13 AM

Thermal clips encourage you to use more than just your 'main' weapon, especially if your main weapon is the Claymore or the Widow. If I had unlimited rounds for the Widow, then why would I need to carry the Tempest?

The two things that bothered me the most about ME2:

1). I would have liked to have seen more attention paid to your final decision to save the Council or allow it to die. If the original Council died then your Spectre status is not reinstated and you are told that there is a great deal of resentment toward humans in the galaxy. But, other than a couple of half-baked attempts with batarians on Omega, you never really see that in action.

2). The whole conversation with Ashley/Kaidan on Horizon was just bad (i'm talking 'Femshep throwing herself at Jacob' bad)! I wanted to waste a couple of thermal clips on them!

Shepard: 'O.K, how does the fact that you were frozen in place while a whole invasion force of humanoid insects were busy loading half the colony into their phallic-shaped star destroyer make you think that Cerberus is behind this??!!'

Oh, on topic: I am looking forward to ME3.

Posted by: Ahrenil Mar 14 2011, 03:00 PM

I know what you mean with the Ashley/Kaiden meeting. You would've thought that saving the Galaxy would entitle you to a little bit of trust, especially from the people who helped you do it. What's more, what was stopping you just from going "Hey Joker, grab Dr.Chakwas and come and explain why we're not the bad guys please"

Posted by: Destri Melarg Mar 15 2011, 12:24 AM

Exactly. At least when you see Anderson and tell him about the Collectors he is willing to take you at your word, even if that means acknowledging that you are now working with Cerberus.

Posted by: Thomas Kaira May 5 2011, 08:07 PM

Bad news.

Mass Effect 3 is no longer coming out this year.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6312160.html?tag=topslot;thumb;5

Posted by: King Coin May 5 2011, 08:31 PM

Good news in my opinion. It's no longer going to be ME3 vs Skyrim. March or so was about when I was going to get it anyways.

Posted by: Lord Revan May 6 2011, 01:55 AM

The best things are worth waiting for, right?

Posted by: milanius Aug 20 2011, 08:02 PM

right - that's why I'll continue to wait for Neverwinter Nights 3, even if it has to be made by a bunch of drunken Ukrainian programmers in an ill-ventilated, cigarette smoke-filled room

Posted by: Tellie Sep 26 2011, 11:03 PM

Are you speaking about yourself now mil? shame on you.

Just joking, As for me I love Bioware, the earned me 100 quid when they revealed the the Illusive Man was working with the Reapers. Strange though I would have thought my friends had started to understand that I'm clearly psychic when it comes to things like this...on a related not I keep bragging about the fact that I've held true to my oppinion that Skyrim would be released in 2011 since 2006 no one believed me and kept laughing at me...guess who had the last laugh

Posted by: Lord Revan Sep 27 2011, 02:16 AM

Congradulations, Tellie. Now, what's the next jackpot at the lottery this month?

I'm definitely looking forward to taking Cerberus apart in ME 3. My main Shepard was practically destined for it.

Posted by: Lord Revan Sep 27 2011, 02:18 AM

Congradulations, Tellie. Now, what's the next jackpot at the lottery this month?

I'm definitely looking forward to taking Cerberus apart in ME 3. My main Shepard was practically destined for it.

Posted by: Lycanthropic-Legend Jun 30 2012, 07:29 PM

Glad they gave us the ending we deserved. Bioware cares for fans.

Posted by: Kiln Jul 2 2012, 03:27 AM

I disagree about the ending, it felt really shallow. None of the decisions you made factored in to the end of the game. They put all that focus on your decisions and then they ended up making zero difference in the final cutscene.

In fact all three endings were basically the exact same cutscene with slightly different colored laser beams. I don't think that counts as multiple endings. Not to mention that it leaves more questions than answers.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Jul 2 2012, 06:39 AM

You haven't played the Extended Cut yet, have you, Kiln?With the extended cut it's actually one hell of a lot better; a great deal of questions are answered, a lot of the original plot holes are filled in and it generally makes a lot more sense. I really liked it, myself.

Posted by: Kiln Jul 2 2012, 11:51 PM

I'll have to try it but honestly, I doubt it'll make it up to me after all this time. I just know that the stock ending made me wish I hadn't bought the game, despite all the fun I had getting there.

Posted by: liliandra nadiar Jul 3 2012, 01:56 AM

EC at least answers my main question regarding the ending (mainly WTF was Joker doing in a relay jump in the middle of a huge fight) but a lot of the minor choices are apparently irrelevant it's still the same three choices though we now apparently have a refusal option, but that doesn't help that much either.

Posted by: Lord Revan Jul 3 2012, 10:26 PM

SO BE IT!!! Well, one of the defining science fiction entries of the early 21st century is over. It was fun while it lasted.

Posted by: Kiln Jul 5 2012, 08:50 AM

Wow, I've gotta say that I can now endorse buying Mass Effect 3. After playing through all of the multiple endings that now have much larger differences than the color of a laser beam, I can say that the ending is now about 10,000x better since the extended edition was released.

They tie up several of the questions that I had and made the ending feel much more complete than before. It wasn't as comprehensive as I'd hoped but it went a long way towards my need for closure in one of the best series of all time.

Posted by: Darkness Eternal Jul 6 2012, 02:46 PM

See! It wasn't so bad!

Posted by: Kiln Jul 7 2012, 01:10 AM

It was extremely bad with the original ending.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Nov 22 2012, 07:20 AM

I quit playing after the crap ending. I was angry. I was livid. I could have gotten a college degree with the amount of hours I put into that game, and felt jipped. I could have bought other things with the money I spent on the game and the add-ons and DLC. I invested my time and money in it because I thought it would have an amazing and satisfying ending. Did I expect my Shepherd to go live with Thane on the Citadel and raise little adopted kids? No. But I at LEAST expected it to not have an ending like "And then everything exploded and the Krogan ate everyone. The end."

That being said, it is still one of my most favorite games. And once I get over being a big crybaby, I will play, from the beginning, until the very end with the new stuff at the end.

But I will never be buying anything else from Bioware ever again.

Posted by: Fawkes Nov 23 2012, 10:18 AM

Synthesis and control have a decent closure, though synthesis just makes no sense at all.
But destroy? Especially the good destroy ending, you're left with a 3 second reward for all your hardwork, the mods over at the forum said that it meant that there was hope that Shep and their LI would meet again, but your talking about the last game with Shep, I don't want hope or a head canon, I want the downright yes or no. I would have been happy with a written epilogue!

They should have kept the original dark matter plot, less variables for future games.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Nov 23 2012, 07:01 PM

Well someone pointed out that the explosion from the Mass Relays being destroyed would kill all life, period. So since all relays were destroyed(in the original ending, I don't know about the new one just yet) they would wipe out all life, no matter what. And even in the off chance that they didn't, if you saved the Krogans, they would most likely eat everyone. No one has any way to get home from Earth. Quarians and Turians would starve and die because of their diets/immune systems, whatever is left of the Asari MAY survive because Asari are awesome, but humans don't stand a chance against Krogans who eat a lot and live as long as Asari. Any ending I can think of is depressing.

The dark matter made more sense and gave a little insight as to why the Reapers were doing what they were doing. Instead they're like "Well you're too advanced so boo-hoo, you're dead."

Posted by: King Of Beasts Jan 7 2013, 07:17 AM

Is mass-effect 3 a good game? I want to try it out, but I want to know if its worth buying or renting.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Jan 7 2013, 07:32 AM

You'd have to buy the first and second one to understand what's going on.

Posted by: King Coin Jan 7 2013, 03:49 PM

I just started playing this game, and I find the camera very annoying. Also, why does switching my weapon cause my character to leave cover?

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Jan 7 2013, 06:39 PM

In the 3rd game? I never noticed that it did that D:

Posted by: King Coin Jan 7 2013, 08:00 PM

Yes. It's very obnoxious.

Posted by: Kiln Feb 26 2013, 01:12 AM

I've been playing the multiplayer for several days now and it is great. The competetive but non adversarial way that it works makes it tons of fun. I've had this game for all this time but never tried the MP until about a week ago. Now I've found myself refreshed with the series.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 26 2013, 02:51 AM

It's the only MP I will play. I've got a female friend who is just as obsessed with this trilogy as I am, and we played when I still had Gold.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Feb 26 2013, 03:24 PM

I loved ME3's multiplayer; before I lost my account which had all my progress on I played it almost religiously and had a tremendously good time doing it. I've even been throwing around ideas for an ME story revolving around one of the N7 squads you play as in my head for a wee while now.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 26 2013, 03:47 PM

I would read that, lol. So far, all of the ME fics I've read are just awful. Just really, REALLY bad.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Feb 26 2013, 03:52 PM

That's the case with most fanfiction, really; for every diamond out there there's buckets upon buckets of swill you need to wade through to find it. Mass Effect is a pretty popular universe to write fan fiction for, so while the swill:diamond ratio seems to be about the same it seems to be much worse on account of the sheer volume of swill.

Damn, now I've used the word 'swill' so many times it doesn't feel like a real word any more.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 26 2013, 04:04 PM

XD to be fair, I wasn't too interested in reading ME fiction. When Skyrim came out and I got REALLY into it, I wanted to read fiction about that even more. I wanted to see if there was any fanfiction about Thane, but...just... wow. I just want some good, solid FemShep fiction without her boning everyone on the Citadel.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Feb 26 2013, 04:05 PM

Well, to be fair, there are lots of fics that don't have that. They just have her angsting and whinging all the time instead.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 26 2013, 04:09 PM

Yeah, they do XD It really turned me off on ME fiction. IN MY head, FemShep is hardened, gets the job done but never, EVER forgets the lives that her actions have cost, nor the lives that are lost by the invasion. She is gentle with those she cares about, but won't beat around the bush if they're being stupid. Not "Oh Thane/Kaiden/Liara/Garrus/wtf ever, I'm in soooooo much pain in my heart! Let's go to bed and DO IT!" XD

Posted by: Destri Melarg Feb 27 2013, 02:44 AM

I haven't chimed in on this discussion because I may be the one person who is glad that 3 turned out the way it did. The outcry over it has been so deafening that I believe Bioware is going to be forced to revisit it, which means that we haven't seen the last of Shepard yet. If Bioware were smart (which, over time, they have proven to be with the glaring exceptions of ME3's ending and Dragon Age II) they might consider incorporating ideas raised in the wonderful fan-made documentary, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeJkR683Sas.

Too many people invested too much into the series to leave it the way it is now. I think Bioware is going to crank out DA3 for the next-gen consoles and then I think they are going back to Mass Effect... and Commander Shepard.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 27 2013, 03:45 AM

I've watched that, and right after I did, I felt a LITTLE better, but still extremely sad. I haven't watched the second part of it(I think there are two parts?)

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Feb 27 2013, 09:22 PM

The thing about the Indoctrination Theory is that it basically boils down to Shepard being hit by the beam, hallucinating the canon endings and then...nothing, really. There's no more closure or wrapping up of events than their was in the orginal ending, really, and just comes to the same problem via a slightly different route.

And I believe the offical Bioware line is that they're going to do more Mass Effect, but without Shepard. Casey Hudson stated in an interview that 'Commander Shepard's story ended at the end of Mass Effect 3' so that strikes me as pretty final.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 27 2013, 10:11 PM

They are doing another one, I think it's when the First Contact Wars started.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Feb 27 2013, 10:18 PM

That's the current theory, yeah. Personally I'd like one following Wrex's career; that would be awesome.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 27 2013, 10:20 PM

Have you seen the animated movie paragon Lost? I cried. I'll admit it.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Feb 27 2013, 10:22 PM

Oh, that's out? I haven't yet, no.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 27 2013, 10:24 PM

Freddie Prinze Jr. does the voice in the movie as well as the game for Vega.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Feb 28 2013, 01:38 PM

Yeah, I saw the little teaser sample the makers released on Youtube; his voice alright. You'd hope it would be though, considering that he's the main character.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Feb 28 2013, 05:49 PM

Ooh, ooh, one thing I remembered; Elizabeth, thinking of Mass Effect-related paerphanalia that makes you cry, have you read http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/escapist-comics/9758-Blue-Rose-of-Illium? Because if you haven't, it's absolutely phenominal. It will also make you cry. Like a goddamn baby.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Feb 28 2013, 06:11 PM

No, because I know what its about and I refuse to XD

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Mar 1 2013, 06:00 PM

Hah, fair enough. I remember my thought process when I was first reading it was something along the lines of 'don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, don't cry, oh crap I'm crying.'

Posted by: Destri Melarg Mar 1 2013, 07:48 PM

I read that interview too, but I think that was just Casey sticking up for his team in the wake of all the bad press surrounding the endings. When they revisit the subject once cooler heads have prevailed I believe that they are going to have a change of heart. Leaving Shepard's story the way it is now is unsatisfying no matter which ending you choose.

As for the Indoctrination Theory, I believe that it gives Bioware the perfect 'hook' for going back in and revisiting the story. I'm not saying that they should incorporate everything that the documentary suggests, but the idea that:

lifts the Mass Effect series from just another good space opera with a bad ending to a once-in-a-generation mind job.

Edit: Yes, I know this is all probably wishful thinking on my part, but I can hope... right?


Maybe we can play as a Turian!


Or maybe follow Grunt as he becomes leader of his own kraant (or whatever it's called).

My vote would be to follow another Spectre, like http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Jondum_Bau or go back early into http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Tela_Vasir career.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Mar 1 2013, 08:56 PM

Dude, face it; they're not incorporating the Indoctrination theory. I'm sorry, but they're not.

Besides, if you ask me, Shepard should die at the end of Mass Effect 3, whatever ending you pick. Because how the hell can you top saving the entire galaxy from the Reapers in any conceivable way? What the hell is Shepard going to do next? Retire, try and hold the galaxy together maybe is galactic president or somesuch, live his/her entire life knowing that whatever they do, they peaked at 35 and will never, ever be able to top that whatever they do. That's pretty goddamn depressing. Dying in a final, heroic sacrifice to bring an end to the Reapers and save the galaxy on the other hand; that's the perfect end for a hero. Shepard goes at his very peak, before anything can be tarnished, before the shine can wear off and before the inevitable lifetime of boredom and dissatisfaction can occur. Perfect.

Posted by: Kiln Mar 1 2013, 10:07 PM

The devs said from the start that they intended Shephard's story to be a trilogy. 3 parts.

They've said multiple times during the creation of the series however that they'd be open to a continuation within the same universe but stated that it wouldn't include Shephard.

My bet is that they'll move backwards in the ME timeline to before Shephard was even thought of if they continue in the same universe.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 1 2013, 10:24 PM

Either way, I'm looking forward to whatever they put out. Kind of. I put almost as much time in the ME trilogy as the last two ES games and love the universe.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Mar 1 2013, 10:41 PM

I'm probably going to get whatever comes out as well, in the end. Considering the amount of backlash that ME3 provoked, I imagine Bioware are going pay a lot of attention to how they handle its development and so forth, so while the whole ME3 outcry may well have given the internet a new dead horse to flog for years to come (because after ten years, maybe we were running out of horse with The Phantom Menace) it might be a good kick up the backside that points Bioware in the right direction.

Posted by: Destri Melarg Mar 2 2013, 01:40 AM

You can face it if you want to. Those endings are too bad for me to face without some form of blind, trusting optimism which I will adopt until Bioware disabuses me of it. And I never said that they would incorporate the Indoctrination Theory. I only said that they should.


Shepard doesn’t need to live to make the endings satisfying. Like you (and for the same reasons), I believe that it is better if he dies. Right now, he is a Kennedy. If he somehow lives he becomes a Clinton. The problem is, as it stands right now, the three ending choices are just flat-out bad (Synthesis? Really? ). Worse than that, they are a cop out. It is my hope (and, again, I must stress that it is a hope) that people as creative as the team over at Bioware have gotten the kick up the backside you mentioned.


The same thing was said about Master Chief.


The thing is that they almost have to move backwards in the timeline from here because Bioware has basically written themselves into a corner. 3’s endings make it difficult (to say the least) to move forward in the Mass Effect universe unless you create three almost completely different games to accommodate people based on the ending they chose.



I'm not trying to be a jerk about this. I was only expressing optimism that a company with a track record of games that I enjoy would naturally want to go back and fix a mistake. I'm sorry you guys don't feel that way, but the fact that you don't doesn't invalidate the fact that I do.

Besides, I'm still holding out hope that Bioware will re-visit Jade Empire someday... so my optimism is pretty hard to kill!

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 2 2013, 01:42 AM

Not to mention, Destri, if they went forward with the ME universe, they would pretty much only have Krogan.

Posted by: Destri Melarg Mar 2 2013, 02:11 AM

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 2 2013, 02:19 AM

Think about it!!!! The mass relays are destroyed, and who's gonna feed the army of Krogan? The Turians and quarians(assuming th player went with Quarian) would die due to their immune systems and dietary needs, the salarians are just...salarians, and the humans, volus, and asari would be food for the Krogan. Then they'd turn Earh into Tuchanka Part Two.

Posted by: Kiln Mar 2 2013, 03:57 AM

Destri: Halo is a bad example. Bungie had the series taken away from them and given to another studio for the creation of Halo 4. They didn't get a say in the series' future.

I doubt the same is going to happen with Bioware. I can see the next game set in the same universe but I hink it is time to admit that the ending of ME3 sucked (though it is slightly better with extended cut) and that Shephard is dead.

Posted by: SubRosa Mar 2 2013, 04:28 AM

Awww come on now. Shepherd could kill rats for the Fighters Guild. Or fetch the mead for the Companions. Or maybe even get a ring from a well for the Mages Guild. There is still plenty left to do!

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 2 2013, 06:45 AM

HAAA.

Posted by: Kiln Mar 2 2013, 07:54 PM

Edi, take us in. We've gotta land.

Got it Shephard. Putting us down near what appears to be a small settlement.

*Cue Elderscrolls theme song*

Mass Effect 4: Valenwood

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 2 2013, 07:56 PM

-giggles like crazy-

Posted by: King Coin Mar 2 2013, 08:06 PM

How many people are going to make a new TES character and name them Shepard now?

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 2 2013, 08:09 PM

-slowly raises hand-

She will be a pure biotic, too. XD

Posted by: Kiln Mar 2 2013, 10:13 PM

*Whistles innocently*

I just might...

Posted by: King Coin Mar 2 2013, 11:03 PM

I'll be different and make an Argonian named Garrus.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 2 2013, 11:06 PM

-girly squeal-

GOD IDEA!!!

Posted by: King Coin Mar 2 2013, 11:16 PM

I just about everyone likes Garrus. In Mass Effect my standard squad was Wrex and Garrus. ME2 it was Garrus and... whatever the Krogan's name was.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 2 2013, 11:21 PM

Grunt, lol.

Garrus is always with me, too. He's a staple party member.

Posted by: Kiln Mar 3 2013, 12:08 AM

I always went with Ashley and Kaiden in the first ME, which is why Virmire made me so angry. After Kaiden was gone Garrus replaced him strictly because of his skill set and not because I liked him.

In ME2 I went with Garrus and Legion. Garrus was written a lot better in the last two games and I actually enjoyed his company. Having a look into geth "culture" was awesome.

In ME3 I went with Garrus and the Marine who starts with you.

Garrus is my favorite because he's always got your back through the whole game but generally I like all of the characters for their unique petsonalities.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 3 2013, 12:12 AM

Vega starts with you on the 3rd one.

I always had Garrus in my group. ALWAYS. I loved the little quips he came up with, and felt that having a party member who had seen you through it all was important.

Posted by: King Coin Mar 3 2013, 01:01 AM

What an awful name. Yeah, he got replaced by Legion, but that was unfortunately a LONG way through the game.

Garrus was pretty awesome. If I play the 3rd one ever, I'll be getting him pronto.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 3 2013, 01:04 AM

He picked his own name, lol. He said is resonated with him.

Posted by: King Coin Mar 3 2013, 01:09 AM

Well, that could be why he got booted as soon as someone better came along. He was never as cool as Wrex was. That guy was almost as cool as Garrus. He had some really funny lines if I recall correctly. I miss ME1. Always gave Garrus the best sniper rifle, Wrex the best shotgun. Then modded both of them to shoot explosive rounds. BOOOM.

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 3 2013, 01:29 AM

Snob. XD

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Mar 3 2013, 06:08 PM

I personally really liked Grunt; he was an interesting character and was useful in a fight, and when I found out that, in ME3 I had a massive 'atta boy!' moment for him. Plus his loyalty mission was a lot of fun, too.

Anybody played the new Reckoning DLC pack, by the way? You can play as a Krogan with a giant hammer. YOU CAN PLAY AS KROGAN THOR!!

Posted by: Elisabeth Hollow Mar 3 2013, 07:03 PM

I don't have that DLC yet. Now I want it lol

Posted by: Kiln Mar 9 2013, 04:52 AM

Anybody got the Omega or Citadel DLC's yet? I want to try them but Bioware thinks their DLC is worth too much money at launch these days.

Posted by: Destri Melarg Oct 9 2014, 11:19 PM

I'd like to bring this topic back from the dead to explore the possible ramifications of the three bad endings before the new game is announced. Here's what I think happened after the end credits:

- You’re SHEPARD, but you’re clinically brain-dead lying in a bed at Huerta Memorial. Shooting the red pipe caused your body to be blown down to the control room, back across the chasm, and through the room of corpses to the beam which deposited you (still breathing, mind you) amidst the rubble of London. With the Mass Relays destroyed and much of Earth looking like Trafalgar Square, you were transported to Huerta Memorial, which was miraculously spared any real damage when the orbiting Citadel exploded.

- Your body has been transported to Huerta Memorial as above, but your consciousness now exists inside the Reaper Consensus (which you have renamed the ‘because I said so’). Here you are able to make decisions that influence Reaper behavior based on the fact that you grabbed two blue handlebars because TIM told you to. You are using your newfound power to make your Reaper puppets rebuild the mass relays because you want to finally stick it to the idiots on the Council (who all somehow survived) and take your shiny new Reapers on a long delayed full scale invasion of the Terminus Systems.



- Your body was completely vaporized due to the fact that you inexplicably decided to complete SAREN'S objective from the first Mass Effect! All that’s left of you is a single piece of chestplate with the N7 logo that was recovered from the rubble in London near the spot where you disappeared into the beam. Experts speculate that your armor was somehow separated from your body due to the molecular deconstruction that preceded your transport to the Citadel. With nothing left of you to bury, the remaining piece of armor is transported to the only section of the Citadel still standing... Huerta Memorial.



- EMILY WONG is reporting from outside Huerta Memorial where an angry half synthetic/half organic lynch mob have gathered to string you up for what they perceive to be crimes against organics. The Krogan have sent envoys to the Citadel to demand that your body be brought to Tuchanka to face trial for curing the genophage, then rendering the entire Krogan race sterile again by choosing Synthesis. URDNOT WREX has been quoted as saying that you’ll make a good amuse-bouche for KALROS, the Queen of all Thresher Maws. In fact, the only one happy about being spontaneously transformed into a cyborg is a Volus named NIFTU CAL.

- 184,563,297 lawsuits have been filed against you to date for everything from genocide to property damage to copyright infringement.

- Your ship and crew crash landed on a planet only 654 light years from Citadel space. Engineer GREG ADAMS surmises that fuel reserves will hold out just long enough for the Tantalus Drive Core to build momentum to reach 89% of light speed. The good news is that, since we all know that Sir Isaac Newton is the most fuel efficient son-of-a-you-know-what in space, the ship will continue to drift at that speed indefinitely without fuel. The bad news is that, with the mass relays destroyed, only Matriarch LIARA T’SONI would be alive when the Normandy finally returns to Citadel space... and that’s only if she somehow manages to avoid eating or drinking after the first eleven months. To combat this Adams, T’Soni, & TALI’ZORAH vas NORMANDY repurpose the escape pods to serve as rudimentary stasis pods based upon a prothean design provided by JAVIK.

- Because they were virtually wiped out in the initial Reaper attack, the Batarians never did actually send their committed ships into battle against the Reapers. They now find themselves in possession of the largest fleet in Citadel Space. In recognition of this, the other councillors name BALAK to take the seat vacated by DONNELL UDINA.

- Without the Geth to assist them in acclimatizing themselves to Rannoch, the Quarians suffer through a series of pandemics that all but wipe them off the galactic map. In a last ditch effort to save her species, ADMIRAL X’EN tries to recreate the Geth using second hand parts salvaged from the remnants of the Migrant fleet. The results are not aesthetically pleasing, but her ‘new Geth’ do attain self awareness... right before they break down because there are fewer Quarians to keep them repaired.

- DALATRASS LINRON is stripped of her title after footage of her in flagrante delicto with a Hanar named ZYMANDIS (soul name: Regards the Works of the Enkindlers in Despair) floods the extranet. Thanks to the testimony of a Spectre named JONDUM BAU, it comes to light that this Zymandis was actually an indoctrinated Reaper agent who almost caused the fall of Kahje. This revelation is a political WMD that vaporizes the entire Linron bloodline and opens the door for DALATRASS NARRA to be named the new leader of the Salarian Union. Former Dalatrass Linron retires to an undisclosed location and spends the rest of her life fleeing the Drell assassins that the Hanar send to exterminate her.

- Spurred on by his new wife, JENNA, CONRAD VERNER volunteers to work as a consultant on the Crucible project where he is re-aquainted with engineer GAVIN HOSSLE. Over coffee the two write out the mission statement for the corporation that will come to be known as Verssle Endeavours on an Alliance napkin. Verssle Endeavours becomes the leading light in harnessing the dark energy necessary to rebuild the Mass Relays. The napkin will later rest under secure glass, right next to Conrad Verner’s statue, in the Smithsonian Institute.

- As a result of her efforts leading the colonists of Zhu’s Hope against the Reapers, SHIALA is approached with commission offers by both the Asari Military and the Human Systems Alliance. She is also informed by the Citadel Council of her Spectre candidacy. In the end, she puts them all aside to begin her new life as an Asari Justicar.

Posted by: SubRosa Oct 9 2014, 11:29 PM

I didn't play the second or third games, but I do recall something about traveling near the speed of light. The closer you get to it, the more time dilates. So that even though it might take 900 years to fly back to Earth, a much shorter time will pass onboard the ship itself. I am not a mathmagician, so I don't know all the calculations. But I do recall from Cosmos that you could travel around the Milky Way at the speed of light, and only be about 20 or 30 years older when you got back. Though thousands of years would have passed back home.

Also keep in mind too that while traveling through the vacuum of space will not slow the ship down once it has reached its maximum speed, the gravity wells it encounters along the way will. Passes with stars, planets, and planetoids will affect the ship's speed, and might slow it down, or speed it up. They could also send it flying off on a completely different trajectory, such as the vastness of intergalactic space.

Posted by: Destri Melarg Oct 9 2014, 11:50 PM

This was actually meant as a joke for those of us who played through all three games only to get the final ending(s) we did. Most of these references will be lost on you if you didn't play through the games. Not being a mathmagician myself, I couldn't even begin to tell you how much effect on time dilation traveling at only 89% of light speed would have. I can only surmise that it might be significant.

Posted by: Lopov Oct 10 2014, 09:56 PM

I played both ME1 and ME2 but I finished them long before ME3 was released so when it happened, I didn't feel any hype about it anymore. Besides, I encountered that bug which wouldn't allow me to import my character from ME2 - although the bug was later fixed, I already moved on so I never finished the saga with my Dylan Shepard. I still don't know exactly what the endings are, though I read some negative critics about it.

Posted by: SubRosa Oct 10 2014, 10:18 PM

My understanding is that the endings came in different colors. And that is all the difference is!

Posted by: Destri Melarg Oct 11 2014, 09:18 AM

The endings were bad, to be sure… but they didn't ruin the trilogy for me like they did with so many others. 'Rosa, Lopov you should definitely play through to the end of the trilogy. I think people were so angry and outraged over the endings because the over-arching story up to that point was so good. You can't hate something that you're indifferent to.

Posted by: SubRosa Oct 11 2014, 04:40 PM

I tried playing ME2, but I never got past the intro. Once I found out the game forces you to join the terrorist group from the first game, I gave up. I just won't do that. While they claimed to be about human superiority over aliens, all I ever saw them do was kill human servicepeople, like Admiral Kabuki. So it was rather plain to me that is what they were all about. From what I have read and watched on video about the other games, I was not far from the mark (don't want to spoil anything here).

Besides, I found the gameplay in ME1 to be rather poor. Well, until I played the intro to ME2. That made me appreciate the first game more! The only thing that kept me playing the first game at all was to see how the story turned out. But once I played through it once, and already knew that, and there is no reason to try it again. I was really very unimpressed with the series.

So I would rather spend my time playing games that interest me more, such as Wasteland 2 (which I am definitely going to try sometime). I bought Baldur's Gate II a while ago and still haven't even had time to start it either.