To Heir is Human II - Planning thread 5, And we continue Options

[minque]

Go on planning, folks!


Link to the previous one

[Dantrag]

We should probably be in here a lot more, mainly because we are starting to create pretty big plots and we need to know where they're going.

[Lord Revan]

Yeah, I agree with that. Still, MM is of on vacation for a week (canadian honored user).

I'll be gone a lot this summer, but that's still a little ways ahead.

[Priest of Sithis]

plots that I have introduce:
Mannimarco: King of Worms alliance with Dark Brotherhood
Army from Morrowind, landed near Mournhold from Vvardenfell
Patholos may start a new Guild with the help of Karn

[Dantrag]

Yeah, all that kinda took me by surprise, as we were trying to get rid of the Silhouette in order to bring the real villain (Veric) to the forefront, and now we also have Mannimarco, Patholos and Karn to deal with as major contenders. Not that this is bad, as it can add a lot more depth, we just have to plan how everything is going to fit before we jump in.

Since the original plan was to have the Sil taken care of, Veric form a new government, and later take control, we need to change a few things to fit the new developments. Karn, Patholos, and Mannimarco have obviously formed some kind of pact against the Silhouette, will they temporarily join the group of heroes against a common enemy, or will Veric and them strike up an alliance?

And I guess if Shogun doesn't become regular again soon, I'll take over Veric until he comes again. I'll also start posting as the Sil more to get things going.

Any ideas on any of this?

[Lord Revan]

I think The villains have some form of allegiance. After all, Karn still has Veric's yellow amulet. He'll remember that somewhere along the line and report in....... maybe in a few months ANyway, Flint is talking to the countess......

I just realized, Dantrag, you have some of the biggest figureheads as your own characters now..... I thought my characters made a lot of pivitol choices (conflicting or otherwise).

PS: Other sub-plots-

Romatic relationships.... lots,
conspiracies, lot of those too,
and plenty of grudges.

PPS: Just for curiosity, if the nerevarine makes an appearance, which one will he/she be? There are so many!

This post has been edited by Lord Revan: Apr 22 2007, 05:03 AM

[Dantrag]

Oh yeah, I abandoned my whole Vivec argument. In AMU, Vivec the city was totally destroyed, and it was pretty common knowledge that vivec the god was dead.

As far as the nerevarine goes, I say we leave him out. Number one, there's always going to be a few people that disagree with our choice of person, and number two, we don't really want a god-like good guy. That's for the baddies.

I don't know if this was ever put out in the open, but Shogun and myself had done some brainstorming and come up with a decent idea that would actually work well with the new guild. We were thinking that the group would deal with the Silhouette, and that would give Veric's current form (Altair, he's still hanging with the group) some fame in Tamriel, and he would use that fame to come to power and create a new democratic government ruled by a large council. The council would pass a law that put one man in control in times of crises. Well, Veric would use that to become emperor, which allows him to unlock a lost power that allows him to control those that swear an oath to him. We had originally planned for this power to extend to the dead, and now we have Mannimarco, a great necromancer to help with his knowledge of the dead.

So the lost power explains Veric's purpose for wanting to become emperor, and Mannimarco's entrance gives a means to improve said power, and I was thinking that maybe Karn and Patholos's new guild could become Veric's elite soldiers used for the most important of missions.

Also, we've kind of lost sight of the prophecy side of things involving the kiddos, and this explains their role as well; the three children (Satyana, Amrita, Rann) all have the power to break the bond to Veric...

Thoughts/questions are welcome.

[jack cloudy]

That sounds good to me. I'm going to catch up on the playground thread for now but when Veric comes to power as 'president', Flint would be among the first to swear such an oath.

[minque]

Hmmm....sounds quite good to me Danny! Now have you two smarties also come up with how and in what way those kiddos can break the bonds to Veric?

How will Brianna fit in? And for all it matters what about Serene? Shall I dispose of her or what?

[Lord Revan]

Well, Ian will not swear his loyalty to Altair. He'll aid the new democrasy in his own way though. Issac will pledge himself, if he believes this is truly what is best (and also if Satyana decides to). Kirana is a similar story to Ian. And Karn would just do what he is told as long as it makes sense.

Tellie is also having a lot of trouble, so someone might as well take over Amrita and Telina for that matter. And what about all the inactive people (Jonathan, Dalrus, and Sodsa)?

PS: Ian's resolve would be shaken if Serene went away (the more dramatic interpretation applies).

This post has been edited by Lord Revan: Apr 22 2007, 04:12 PM

[Priest of Sithis]

Patholos would have some trouble with the new government, but would probably get used to it
Mannimarco desires the only thing he has always desired, power, so it would be hard to get him to cooperate, unless someone or someones gave him the power he wants

[Lord Revan]

Well, Ian is distancing himself from the others. It's nothing personal, he's just doing what he believes is right for everyone. He'll still be fighting against the Silhouete.

As for the Narza'Tai, it will take a bit of time for them to get on their feet and get used to the changes taking place, but they will be an instrumental factor in the Silhouete's demise (hopefully they'll be ready in time). They also hope to gain a position of power in Veric's new government (even so far as to take land in the Ashland of Vvardenfell to make a center of leadership).

[Priest of Sithis]

Patholos is going to take the Shadow Eaters to observe the Silhouette's Army, get outfitted, and help Mannimarco fortify the Topal Bay.

[Lord Revan]

Well, I'll just edit my last post to avoid double-posting.

[The Metal Mallet]

I'm back! And it looks like some interesting plans are taking place. So far I've just read the planning thread and I'm liking Dantrag's idea about the lost power business. It certainly sounds like something that we can work with. I'm not sure how Flogir would handle the situation. I'm sure he could be deceived into making an oath to Veric. Voltar on the other hand might not swear an oath, as he doesn't wish to lose control over himself, but he'd certainly still be on Veric's side.

Then again, Veric might seek to suppress his ally and try to deceive Voltar to swear an oath to him. Or Veric might just wish to possess "The Staff of Worldly Demise" and think the only way he'd get it is by controlling Voltar. We'll see.

For now, I'm going to catch up on the playground!

[Dantrag]

I'll give it a few more days before I take control of Veric again, as I don't see how we can go much longer without him.

[Lord Revan]

Alright, so how far will the Sil and its army get before they begin to wane? The Imperial City? Cyrodiil? The latter would be more dramatic, I guess. It will take awhile for the Narza'Tai to be ready, and I (and POS) want them to have a role in the fighting.

[Priest of Sithis]

Alright, so how far will the Sil and its army get before they begin to wane? The Imperial City? Cyrodiil? The latter would be more dramatic, I guess. It will take awhile for the Narza'Tai to be ready, and I (and POS) want them to have a role in the fighting.

Mos def, and what about the Vvardenfell-ish army that is on their way? I asked Revan if he wanted to control it but i think it should be up for grabs...

And I tried to subtly have Mannimarco look for the heirs so they could unlock Reman Cyrodill's memories and feelings. Also, Mannimarco is a little hazy because he has been dead for a while, so he doesn't really remember the Oblivion Crisis. Play nice...

[minque]

So the Morrowind Army is heading towards The Imperial City? Now would it be possible for Serene to meet them? Or are the gang too far away? I mean Serene left Rann and his party a while ago but I may be senile but I don´t exactly remember where thay are....

[jack cloudy]

Let's see, double march. That means three days, right? If they can keep it up without supplies that is. Anyway, I was wondering if I should let the Chorrol cavalry go ahead and meet the Morrowind army head-on. In the meantime, I'm going to add some atmosphere.