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Posted by: hazmick Aug 28 2012, 03:22 PM

So Bethesda announced that Hearthfire, a piece of shiny new DLC, will be coming out in just a few days time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXwNVpDmfo&feature=g-u-u

I for one am super super excited. What do you all think?

Posted by: Darkness Eternal Aug 28 2012, 03:32 PM

Damn it! I was just about to post this.

Yeah, it looks good. I am sure many folks at the forums are pissed off that Heartfire is more like Fable/Sims than their little expansions.

I hope we get to build our own castle . . .and we get to marry Serana and adopt Babette

Posted by: King Coin Aug 28 2012, 03:33 PM

Cool. There's a mod out that does something similar, but this of course looks like it is better done. Sounds almost Minecraft-ish from the description.

Posted by: Darkness Eternal Aug 28 2012, 03:36 PM

Well, not everyone has a PC version of Skyrim, so its good for oconsole owners.

Posted by: hazmick Aug 28 2012, 03:37 PM

Personally I'd prefer an Argonian child but hey, this is good enough. As long as I get to choose a nice location for my homestead I'll be happy, now I just need to work on stockpiling resources...

Posted by: Grits Aug 28 2012, 04:03 PM

I am WAY more excited about this than I can express in polite language. My most beloved characters live on the PS3. Now I want to give them a new life on the Xbox.

Also if a giant steps on my cow, there is going to be real trouble around the homestead.

Posted by: hazmick Aug 28 2012, 04:07 PM

I admit that I'm not looking forward to giant attacks, hopefully I can build my house in a giant free area so my cows will be free to roam.

Posted by: Grits Aug 28 2012, 04:46 PM

Maybe the adoptable children will fend off attacks with their tiny, invincible fists.

Posted by: mALX Aug 28 2012, 05:53 PM

My first trip to the CK would be to remove the spawn points for enemies on my purchased plot of land, lol.

Posted by: SubRosa Aug 28 2012, 07:01 PM

So Beth is announcing the next DLC, when PS3 players have not even gotten the first one yet? When will Hearthfire be available on PS3? 2015? I do not even own a PS3, and find this infuriating.

Righteous Rage™ aside, as opposed to Dawnguard, this DLC looks interesting to me. I actually guessed it right too. I was figuring that by the name, it would include that player-built house option that was in the Game Jam video. I was not expecting the adoption part though.

I can always make my own homes via the construction kit. But this might be easier and quicker. Plus it is always nicer to get a house by actually doing something in the game. I think the idea of giant attacks and skeever infestations might be fun. Unless they kill your adopted kids and livestock. Then as Grits said, there will be Oblivion to pay!

Posted by: McBadgere Aug 28 2012, 09:22 PM

Yes, I want to spend my days walking uphill and downhill; shouting at things that could kill me; avoiding a giant angry cattle herder; worrying if I will have to deal with another rodent intrusion when I get home; go home to see the wife and two kids; worry that we're not bringing them up right; cook me own tea; also worry about whether we have enough money for the next round of home improvements or not and if that means me going out again...

And then I can play Skyrim too!!... ...

Nah, I think I'm looking forward to this one...

But yeah...Next year methinks...

Posted by: King Coin Aug 28 2012, 09:39 PM

Agreed!

Posted by: Lady Saga Aug 29 2012, 12:16 PM

Yea THIS. After watching the first 10 SECONDS of that video, I was saying words I can't repeat here, like compassion and hamster. I've built houses in the Sims games too, it's sooo fun.


EDIT: i watched exactly 36 seconds, I stopped the video. I want there to be some mystery. Being surprised during gameplay is where it's at for me!

Posted by: McBadgere Aug 30 2012, 04:49 AM

I think the thing I'm most interested in with this, is whether the plots of land you can buy are specific...Like, you can only have this plot here, in each Hold...And whether you can only have one of a few specific layouts, in specific building materials depending on where you are in Skyrim...Like stone in Markath or wood in Falkreath or Whiterun...

Or, indeed, you can having the Burger King way - how you want it, wherever you want it...*cough*...As it were...

Aaaand, how much will everything be...That's going to be interesting too...

On a side note, the wife and kiddles are all looking forward to it hugely...And, rather unsurprisingly, the idea of adopting children made them all go "Awwwww!"...Although, the terror of my boy looking after kids doesn't bear thinking about...*Massages temples*...

Oddly enough, when I answered with "Christ no! I have enough trouble with you two, without bloody doing it in the game too..." they seemed a bit peeved for some reason... ...

Posted by: King Coin Aug 30 2012, 05:04 AM

Posted by: Lady Saga Aug 30 2012, 12:10 PM

Yea all this crossed my mind too. In Sims, the building materials are endless, but you are limited to specific plots. I'm hoping it's different for Elder Scrolls. I mean, it has to be less limited, right?



You have Burger King in Great Britain? Yikes.

Posted by: McBadgere Aug 30 2012, 01:04 PM

Oh yes, we're not choosy over here... ...BK, KFC, Wimpey, McDonalds, Subway...Starbucks...Any others?...Ummmm...There's probably others...But I'm out in the sticks and there's only a few of them around here...Oooh!! Fatty Arbuckles...OK Diner... ...

What you call Wal-Mart is Asda over here...Though we did give you Tescos and Woolworths... ...

*Cough*...Sorry...Maybe Bethesda'll put one of them in Whiterun on a sponsorship deal... ...

Posted by: Darkness Eternal Aug 30 2012, 05:31 PM

Next skyrim DLC, the player gets a job and then has to start paying taxes and household bills along with butt-wiping and toilet scrubbing animations.

Posted by: Lady Saga Aug 30 2012, 06:39 PM

McB: I'm sorry! Jeez it sounds like you've got some of America's yuckiest foods over there! Granted, I'm a vegetarian so I guess I'm biased.

I would not be opposed to taxes. Back in my tabletop days (DnD, TFT, etc.) we actually did incorporate taxation rules, along with all sorts of other things like feudalism, into our gameplay. I doubt this will ever happen in vanilla TES, but I am digging the fact that we must use materials to build the house. That it doesn't just show up because we throw some gold around.

Posted by: McBadgere Aug 31 2012, 12:38 PM

Though I'm sure you've all seen it by now...I found some info whilst trawling the Bethesda site...

Was tempted to steal some and put it here...However, as Lady Gaga does not wish to be spoiled... ...

A link instead!!...

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1407328-skyrim-hearthfire-dlc-compilation-of-known-info/...

Someone pointed out the possiblility of needing to be Thane to be able to build in a hold...Not a problem for me like, but again...Removal of choice for some...

Posted by: SubRosa Aug 31 2012, 02:06 PM

I wonder if the carriage rides will conflict with my real-time carraige mod? That adds routes between all the cities.

I also wonder if the steward will be the skeleton butler we saw in the Gam Jam video.

Posted by: Grits Aug 31 2012, 02:17 PM

I would kill for a skeleton butler.

Here's The Boy's comment upon viewing the video:

(SAGA: DO NOT CLICK)

Posted by: King Coin Aug 31 2012, 02:37 PM

I'm going to put one of the mods I've been making on hold until this DLC comes out... I'd love to use some of the construction features!

Posted by: Darkness Eternal Aug 31 2012, 02:50 PM

It would indeed be awesome for the immersion! But I am sure many people would whine that the ES is looking more like the Sims, but the fact is that its an RPG means Bethesda can add as much immersion as they want. I like the materials we get to use too! It is going to be fun . . . if they even release it for the PS3. Gstaff in the official forums said they aren't sure if Dawnguard will make it to the PS3 . . now my dark fantasies are ruined! RUINED!

Anyways, I wonder what the next DLC will be. So far everything in the DLC and patches have been seen in Game Jam.

Gamejam content that made it into the game:

Mounted Combat.
Kill-cams with archery and spells.
New Mounts(Arvak)
Underwater graphics.
Water currents in dungeons(Dawnguard)
Vampire Lords
New Vampire feeding animation.
Lycanthropy Perk Tree
Wayshrines(Dawnguard)
Kinetic Shouts
Ice and fire arrows(Dawnguard adds explosive fire bolts)


So, I wonder what will be added next. The only way I see Bethesda adding spears is if they add werebears. Anyone read the Infernal City where half-naked Nordic werebears hunted people down with spears in the Hunting Grounds? I see Bethesda honoring that with adding the Hunting Grounds as a new realm and werebears as a new faction.

Honestly, I think they should drop the werebear stuff and focus on other things such as the Thalmor, and the Psijiic Order and etc. Then leave werebears for last and truly focus their time and effort to make that "Hunter's DLC" the best one! Imagine the Hunting Grounds the size of the Shivering Isles?! A true expansion! Oh man! I feel like going outside and hunting!

Posted by: SubRosa Aug 31 2012, 02:53 PM

The thing I have always most wanted from the Game Jam video is that giant mudcrab at the end. Gojira attacks!

Posted by: Darkness Eternal Aug 31 2012, 03:03 PM

Yes, that will make "I've fought Mudcrabs more fearsome than you," a valid claim!

Posted by: King Coin Aug 31 2012, 03:22 PM

Posted by: SubRosa Aug 31 2012, 04:29 PM

I would certainly steer clear of them!

Posted by: Lady Saga Aug 31 2012, 04:45 PM

Thanks! I appreciate the links, and no, I did not click on them.

I'm good at avoiding spoilers, though. If I start to read something that seems even remotely spoiler-ish, my eyes automatically blur or avert.



I have a feeling "Gstaff" is not a single person, it is a series of underlings forced to provide occasional info to the public. I read something just yesterday where Gstaff showed up in the Bethsoft PS3 forum. "He" had no idea Europe uses a different system of update classifications then America does. In effect, if we get Update 1.07 in the U.S., it will be 2.03 (something like that) in Europe for whatever reason.

Posted by: hazmick Sep 1 2012, 02:32 PM

Not sure if you guys have seen this screenie yet, just saw it over on the forums.

Lady Saga avert your eyes

http://content.bethsoft.com/bsw_cms_asset/25998_2_1.jpg

Posted by: McBadgere Sep 1 2012, 02:55 PM

Ooooh...I like pie... ...No, I said pie...What I like...As I mentioned... ...

No...Don't look...It's all too...Nice...

Mmmm...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6stKBtHonA...

Posted by: hazmick Sep 1 2012, 02:59 PM

HAHAHA man I love the Mighty Boosh...and pie.

Posted by: Grits Sep 1 2012, 04:54 PM

Let the ingredient hoarding commence!!

Posted by: Kiln Sep 2 2012, 09:21 PM

I'm betting that the house's layout will be predetermined with the ability to customise by room. Basically what I think is that it will be designed already and that you can just change minor details.

Either way I will be buying it. Looks like Bethsoft is finally getting an idea of the kind of things their fans want.

Posted by: Thomas Kaira Sep 8 2012, 05:20 AM

Well, it's a bit more rigid than that. You can choose what rooms you want, but the placement of furniture and walls and such is all pre-determined. The only choice you really have is "armory, library, or kitchen?"

But this also isn't the Sims, and considering just how fragile this engine is, it's probably a good thing Bethesda didn't try to go overboard with this DLC. They just added some spice to the pre-existing home mechanic here, is all, and considering the price, I wasn't really expecting anything more.

I'll be getting it for PC when it arrives, mostly because I look forward to the modding potential it will bring with it. Should be interesting to see what the modders do with this one, and I look forward to tinkering.

Posted by: King Coin Sep 8 2012, 06:40 AM

I'm holding off work on one of mine just to see what I can do with the Hearthfire stuff.

Posted by: Kiln Sep 11 2012, 06:36 AM

Fun enough for $5. It gives you a much larger place to settle down than any of the other houses available. There isn't much customisation but the fact that it is a fairly large building with the ability to move your family (including a couple of kids) in and bring a pet there.

The locations for the buildings are also pretty sweet spots and the mechanic that you use to build your home keep you busy for a while so it is good.

All in all I'm pretty happy I bought it.

Posted by: King Coin Oct 4 2012, 10:08 PM

It's on PC now!

Posted by: SubRosa Oct 4 2012, 10:40 PM

Neat. This is one I actually am interested in getting. Though since I am not playing Skyrim right now I'll wait.

So is it out on PS3? My guess is no, since Bethesda desperately fears the money of Playstation users, and will do anything to insure they never get any of it.

Posted by: Grits Oct 4 2012, 10:51 PM

SubRosa, your guess is correct.

Posted by: Bolzmania Oct 7 2012, 08:33 PM

I am experiencing a rather annoying bug with this DLC on the PC. Whenever I approach the area around Lakeview Manor, my game crashes instantly. This is really odd as it does not happen around the other houses. I found this on UESPwiki: The system may instantly crash upon attempting to approach the area around the manor. However, I can't seem to find any sloution anywhere.

The thing that really sucks is that Lakeview Manor is the only area in the DLC that appeals to me.

Posted by: King Coin Oct 7 2012, 08:38 PM

Try fast traveling there if you can.

Posted by: Darkness Eternal Oct 7 2012, 11:33 PM

Eh . . .so we get shrines to heathen gods like the Nine, and we don't get Daedric shrines!!!

I shall rage!

Posted by: Grits Oct 7 2012, 11:44 PM

Darkness, just build the base and put your artifacts on it. That also makes a good surface for bones, bloody rags, and various necromancer tools.

Posted by: SubRosa Nov 3 2012, 09:20 PM

Now that I got SKSE working with the 1.8 update, I bought Hearthfire. Flavia has gotten the invitation from the Falkreath Jarl to become his thane and build a house, but has not gone there yet. She has a war to win after all. I did notice that Crab Legs are in the list of things you can cook now. Sounds tasty. But they do not use mudcrab chitin. How do I get the new crab parts? I don't see them in the crabs I kill.

Posted by: mALX Nov 3 2012, 09:27 PM

According to the WIKI, after Hearthfire is installed the mudcrabs should start dropping legs now. Add butter and serve to friends. I'll be right over, I love crab legs!

Posted by: SubRosa Nov 4 2012, 04:07 AM

I just found that Hearthfire does not play well with Scenic Carriages. It causes a CTD every time I try to walk near Pinewatch. I looked it up in the wiki, and apparently Lakeview Manor is in the same cell. Somehow this screws with Scenic Carriages. I had to disable it in order to walk to Falkreath. It looks like folks are working on a Hearthfire patch for Scenic Carriages though.