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The End of the Empire? |
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MerGirl |
Jun 26 2005, 01:56 PM
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Mouth
Joined: 11-May 05
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[quote=Rane]
Or then the Fourth Era will bring us an Akaviri invasion, or perhaps the return of the Sload.
Or perhaps the Empire is doomed after all, and the Daedra will actually be able to destroy most of Cyrodiil, perhaps even most of Tamriel. This would make an interesting beginning for TESV.[/quote]
Ooh, ooh! Akaviri invasion sounds awesome!
Why the return of the Sload? I mean, aren't they able to come on their own, already? I thought they could come and go (teleport) as they liked, though many people would hate their guts.
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MerGirl |
Jun 26 2005, 02:57 PM
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Mouth
Joined: 11-May 05
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[quote=Red]
But an akaviri invasion would be cool. But do monkey people stand a chance against the equally stealthy and agile Khajiit? But the snow giants would be a biiiiiiig problem. I can see it now: "Help me! Help me! The igloo people are attacking!".[/quote]
Ack, it's Frosty!
Oh, and don't forget the vampiric snake-peoples!
Seriously, though. I think the Empire is not going to collapse completely... just become something different, is all.
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Wolfie |
Jun 26 2005, 07:02 PM
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Mage
Joined: 14-March 05
From: Dublin, Ireland
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Morrowind will almost certainly break free, as the Legions will be recalled to Cyrodil. Hammerfell might do the same, but i'm not too sure about that one. Kinda fuzzy about that
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D�anaim smaoineamh, d� bhr� sin, t�im ann - Descartes Only the dead have seen the end of war ~ Plato Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. - G.K. Chesterton EnsamVarg
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Daikirai |
Jun 26 2005, 09:13 PM
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I sincerely hope that everything you're saying is false. The Elder Scrolls is Tamriel. Tamriel is Cyrodill, Hammerfell, High Rock, Summerset Isle, Skyrim, Valenwood, Morrowind, Black Marsh, and Ellyswyre. Allowing any of those separate lands to break apart would completely ruin and change The Elder Scrolls lore.
Also, introducing the other continents outside Tamriel would be a big mistake. I'm already a bit weary of the fact that they finally introduced the true oblivion. If Bethesda wanted to make a game based on events outside of Tamriel, sure. But they should make it an Elder Scrolls Adventures game rather than a game fitting into the series of Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind, and Oblivion, because those games are and should be all about Tamriel.
As for the subject of another weak Era-- no. Allowing the game's story to be based on minor problems is fine and all (yes, I consider the gates of hell opening and releasing demons around the world to be a minor problem), but making the world a political and environmental mess would ruin the game. In Morrowind, I never did like playing through a baren, burned looking environment. And making the continent of Tamriel a less prosperous, or even chaotic place would ruin the game.
Summary: The Empire will NOT be destroyed, because Bethedsa is a team of people with common sense.
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Channler |
Jun 26 2005, 10:14 PM
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Master
Joined: 20-March 05
From: Nashville, North Carolina
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[quote=Daikirai]I sincerely hope that everything you're saying is false. The Elder Scrolls is Tamriel. Tamriel is Cyrodill, Hammerfell, High Rock, Summerset Isle, Skyrim, Valenwood, Morrowind, Black Marsh, and Ellyswyre. Allowing any of those separate lands to break apart would completely ruin and change The Elder Scrolls lore.[/quote]
The Elder Scrolls is not Tamriel, the Elder Scrolls are an object. What your talking about is merely setting. And there is a bunch of Lore on continents outside of Tamreil. Who said anything about breaking it up?
[quote=Daikirai]Also, introducing the other continents outside Tamriel would be a big mistake. I'm already a bit weary of the fact that they finally introduced the true oblivion. If Bethesda wanted to make a game based on events outside of Tamriel, sure. But they should make it an Elder Scrolls Adventures game rather than a game fitting into the series of Arena, Daggerfall, and Morrowind, and Oblivion, because those games are and should be all about Tamriel.[/quote]
Why should they be about Tamriel? Why not Nirn? Times change, story's change, what people want change. I think theirs a healthy amount of people that would love to see (excuse my spelling) Tscaeci culture and what not. Way more than those that don't want to see the story go anywhere
[quote=Daikirai]As for the subject of another weak Era-- no. Allowing the game's story to be based on minor problems is fine and all (yes, I consider the gates of hell opening and releasing demons around the world to be a minor problem), but making the world a political and environmental mess would ruin the game. In Morrowind, I never did like playing through a baren, burned looking environment. And making the continent of Tamriel a less prosperous, or even chaotic place would ruin the game.[/quote]
That right their would open the gates for a BETTER game. Political intruige at its greatest. Problems to be solved by the hero. No one ever said the world would always be green.. (doh)
[quote=Daikirai]Summary: The Empire will NOT be destroyed, because Bethedsa is a team of people with common sense.[/quote]
Summary: The Empire will NOT/MAYBE/SHOULD be destroyed
I'm glad you don't work for Beth or they would of gone bankrupt a long time ago..
And please, the lore has been changed more times then you obviously realize. So ADDING to the lore is very acceptable
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Wolfie |
Jun 26 2005, 11:40 PM
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Mage
Joined: 14-March 05
From: Dublin, Ireland
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I think they're some kind of prophetic scrolls that contain knowledge of everything that was, is and will be
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D�anaim smaoineamh, d� bhr� sin, t�im ann - Descartes Only the dead have seen the end of war ~ Plato Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children the dragons can be killed. - G.K. Chesterton EnsamVarg
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Channler |
Jun 27 2005, 01:43 AM
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Master
Joined: 20-March 05
From: Nashville, North Carolina
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[quote=MerGirl]What is the Elder Scrolls, by the way? I thought they were some sort of scrolls that tell about legends and happenings in Nirn or something? :ashamed: I'm still unclear about what the Elder Scrolls really are...[/quote]
From Nigedo's FAQ from the Lore Official Forum:
"These powerful tools of prophecy and divination, the prize of the Empire, tell of every event that ever has or will have happened. The Cyrodiilic Moth priests, who are their keepers, invoke the Elder Scrolls by ritually attuning them to a specific time or space and attempt to interpret the glyphs that form upon their surface.
The Scrolls are believed to be kept in the Imperial City and may be stored in the Hall Of Records, which may form part of the Imperial Palace.
The Moth priests belong to a monastic order founded by Tiber Septim and dedicated to the god Julianos, the Cyrodiilic Divine whose sphere is 'literature, law, history, and contradiction'."
(that was from TIL)
That bbrings up the question.. If the empire should fall, what would happen to the elder scrolls?
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