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The Nerf-Herders' Rest...(Or...It's A Trap!!...), A Star Wars discussion thread... |
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Callidus Thorn |
Oct 8 2014, 02:00 PM
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And in the time between Lucas making the films and then spawning the abominations, the EU was the Star Wars universe. All of it approved by Lucasarts, some of it even commisioned by them.
To simply discard all of it, and effectively say "By the way, we've been selling you bullshit all these years, thanks for buying and we hope you like the new films" is simply inexcusable.
Considering how much there is in the EU compared to the films, and the length of time between the films and the abominations, saying that the EU was only for a fraction of the Star Wars crowd is ridiculous. Without the EU Star Wars would have been dead long before Lucas even though of doing a sequel.
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Destri Melarg |
Oct 8 2014, 05:33 PM
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Mouth
Joined: 16-March 10
From: Rihad, Hammerfell
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Oct 8 2014, 09:13 AM) I really don't care what is 'cannon' or not. A good story is a good story, whether it is written by someone paid by the company that own the copyright, or by someone on the internet doing fan fiction entirely on their own.
I read a lot of the early Star Wars books, like Tales Of the Mos Eisley Cantina, and the other Tales Of books, and I loved them. They are no less well-written or entertaining if whoever happens to currently own the rights to the Star Wars universe refuses to acknowledge them. I love a lot of the fan fic I read here, and none of it is Bethesda canon!
This. Grand Admiral Thrawn is one of my favorite characters in the Star Wars universe. I'm not going to stop liking him just because Disney tells me he's not canon. They can have their canon, and I'll continue to have mine.
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SubRosa |
Oct 8 2014, 11:47 PM
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Ancient
Joined: 14-March 10
From: Between The Worlds
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QUOTE(Destri Melarg @ Oct 8 2014, 12:33 PM) QUOTE(SubRosa @ Oct 8 2014, 09:13 AM) I really don't care what is 'cannon' or not. A good story is a good story, whether it is written by someone paid by the company that own the copyright, or by someone on the internet doing fan fiction entirely on their own.
I read a lot of the early Star Wars books, like Tales Of the Mos Eisley Cantina, and the other Tales Of books, and I loved them. They are no less well-written or entertaining if whoever happens to currently own the rights to the Star Wars universe refuses to acknowledge them. I love a lot of the fan fic I read here, and none of it is Bethesda canon!
This. Grand Admiral Thrawn is one of my favorite characters in the Star Wars universe. I'm not going to stop liking him just because Disney tells me he's not canon. They can have their canon, and I'll continue to have mine. I loved that first Timothy Zahn trilogy. It was really exciting back when it first came out, because those were the first books to be written since the Alan Dean Foster one - Splinter Of The Mind's Eye, and the Han Solo books by Brian Daley that were written back in the late 70s. It breathed new life back into the idea of Star Wars, and opened up the whole Star Wars universe.
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Destri Melarg |
Oct 11 2014, 09:11 AM
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Mouth
Joined: 16-March 10
From: Rihad, Hammerfell
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Oct 8 2014, 03:47 PM) I loved that first Timothy Zahn trilogy. It was really exciting back when it first came out, because those were the first books to be written since the Alan Dean Foster one - Splinter Of The Mind's Eye, and the Han Solo books by Brian Daley that were written back in the late 70s. It breathed new life back into the idea of Star Wars, and opened up the whole Star Wars universe.
I know what you mean. That Zahn trilogy remains the only Star Wars books I have ever read. I don't really know why, considering how much I liked them. I wonder if Disney is going to resurrect the KOTOR franchise finally. If they do that, I'll be willing to overlook the whole canon debate.
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Darkness Eternal |
Nov 28 2014, 05:01 PM
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Master
Joined: 10-June 11
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At first I was mad at all the fake fanmade videos on Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Until I found the real one!Did you see that Dark-Sider! SQUEALS! That red lightsaber looks terrible though.
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Callidus Thorn |
Nov 30 2014, 06:25 PM
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Joined: 29-September 13
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Nov 30 2014, 10:45 AM) Ah yes, the longsword lightsabre. It does indeed ruin everything and irredeemably destroy the entirety of Episode VII because as we all know everything in Star Wars has, up until now, been super duper serious and ultra-realistic and there has never been anything silly in any of the films. Ever. Not at all.
A crossguard like that on a lightsaber is more of a danger to the wielder than anything else. When you're dealing with a weapon that could cut a person in two with a mere flick of the wrist, something that restricts how you can wield the weapon is solely a negative thing. When someone who can only be a villain isn't even taken seriously, why should I take the trailer seriously? And when the last set of films are a continuity nightmare in comparison to the originals, why should I expect this next one to be any better? Also: Jar Jar Abrams. Considering what the Star Trek films were like, I really doubt it's too early to write these off.
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Callidus Thorn |
Nov 30 2014, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(Colonel Mustard @ Nov 30 2014, 05:48 PM) Considering it's a new director, new cast, new writers and they're all wary of the massive backlash against the prequels, I think it's only fair to give the film a chance before complaining about it. After all, it's hard for Abrams to do worse things to the trilogy than what Lucas has already done.
I mean, I get that this is the internet, this is a sci-fi film and I know a huge part of geek culture consists of incessantly and arbitrarily complaining about minor things ad nauseum, but the amount of whining that's been going on about the lightsabre is ridiculous. It's not out for another year and some people are already acting like Abrams has personally punched their mother just based on that one brief clip. The amount of doomsaying, beating of breasts and gnashing of teeth people have already done about this film has been absolutely absurd.
To be fair, the lightsaber is pretty much the single most recognisable element from Star Wars (though personally I'm kinda pissed about the change of the X-Wing too). Changing something like that, especially when it's done just for the sake of it, and then throwing it in the trailer, alongside the X-Wing redesign, makes it look more like this film's about those involved stamping their names on the franchise. Changing anything iconic to a franchise needs to be done for a damn good reason, and frankly, there really doesn't seem to be one. Consider how much the Star Wars films spawned, all the books and games. How many games can we play as a Jedi/Sith, or fly an X-Wing in? Hel, the X-wing got not only it's own series of games, but a series of novels too. I'll grant you the X-Wing redesign is a personal peeve of mine, but when changing anything like that, backlash is inevitable, and pretty much states that this isn't going to be a film for fans of the orignial Star Wars films, the ones that started everything off. Frankly, they must have expected something like this from the trailer, because it really isn't surprising.
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