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SubRosa
post Jul 2 2014, 04:46 PM
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With the Enhanced Editions to Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 now out, and Gog.com having sales on both the originals and the Icewind Dale games, it seems like a good time to create a thread about our old friend the Infinity Engine.

I have Icewind Dale 1 from a long time ago, but never got too far with it back then. Other games like Diablo II and Star Trek Elite Forces caught my attention, and the old school D&D ruleset of Icewind felt too cumbersome for me. I tried installing ID1 again a few weeks ago, but could not get it to work on my Windows 7 box. So I finally broke down and bought it and ID2 off of Gog.com a few days ago. While I was at it, I discovered that Steam had a sale on the Baludur's Gate Enhanced Editions, so I bought those two. I wound up getting all four games for under $20.

I decided to start at the start, so so I rolled a toon to pwn Baldur's Gate 1. Terra started out as a regular Ranger, and I experimented with her using dual swords and a longbow. I found I liked the bow better, and thought about restarting her game to specialize as the Archer subclass. But I found EE Keeper, and instead I used it to change her class and move around her proficiency points a bit.

So far BG1 has been a blast. I still think the old school D&D rules are cumbersome and clunky. Especially where magic is concerned. I hate that memorizing spells business and having to rest to be able to cast them again. I much prefer mana point systems for mages. But gripes aside, it is still a good game, even after all these years. It feels a lot like the original Fallout rpg in its look and feel - the same isometric view and sprites. BG1 just has more party members and the D&D rules.

I have been using BruceVayne's soundsets in Oblivion for years, and many of them are BG characters. So now it is a kick to finally hear them in their original settings. I especially love Imoen and Viconia's voices. From "Good on you if you saved the day!" to "Nightsinger, give me power!". So far those are my two favorite NPCs as well. I loved Minsc in the tutorial, but have not found him yet - he's clear across the map from where we start!

My current gang is Terra (the PC), Imoen, Viconia, Neera (she's a new EE added NPC), and Kagain. I am a little light on the muscle, and am looking for another good melee fighter. I'd like to hire the new half-orc NPC Dorn, but I have not gotten the encounter where it happens yet. OTOH, the team is strong in ranged attacks, and when we all focus our fire on one target we can usually kill it on one round. Unless it is a boss. So fights against ordinary critters often consist of mowing them down before they can even reach Kagain.

So far I am not thrilled with Neera, but for now she is the only mage in town. I'd like to hire the new Drow mage the EE edition added, but he doesn't appear until 5th level. It is funny, my party seems to be going to the evil end of the spectrum. Maybe I should use EE Keeper to change Terra from Neutral Good to Neutral Evil! laugh.gif

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SubRosa   Baldur's Dale   Jul 2 2014, 04:46 PM
Callidus Thorn   Well, I've fired up Baldur's Gate again. I...   Jul 2 2014, 07:03 PM
Lopov   @SubRosa If you don't mind spoilers: You...   Jul 2 2014, 07:06 PM
SubRosa   I love Kagain. He's the archetypical crotchety...   Jul 2 2014, 08:40 PM
Acadian   Who needs a shield when you've got a miniature...   Jul 2 2014, 09:16 PM
SubRosa   Is there any difference between playing a Good cha...   Jul 2 2014, 10:33 PM
ghastley   Is there any difference between playing a Good ch...   Jul 3 2014, 02:36 PM
Acadian   BG I is a long time ago, so I'm going partly b...   Jul 2 2014, 10:49 PM
SubRosa   Just to see what it is like, I created Scáthach, a...   Jul 2 2014, 11:04 PM
Acadian   I know the last time I played BG II, I was able to...   Jul 3 2014, 12:20 AM
SubRosa   So far Scáthach's game has been going rather w...   Jul 3 2014, 08:32 PM
Renee Gade IV   Ahh, this is really a good idea. I have Baldur...   Jul 4 2014, 02:37 AM
SubRosa   Scathach and company have been roaming around east...   Jul 4 2014, 03:13 AM
Renee Gade IV   Ha ha your mana points system almost sounds like a...   Jul 4 2014, 05:35 AM
SubRosa   Interesting. See, I've never played a Bioware...   Jul 4 2014, 05:05 PM
SubRosa   Just had a great moment. Scáthach and company were...   Jul 5 2014, 04:19 AM
SubRosa   My party finally reached 5th level. It certainly t...   Jul 5 2014, 09:09 PM
Acadian   Wow, they must have done some adding and blending ...   Jul 5 2014, 09:20 PM
SubRosa   Besides the bug fixes and upgraded screen resoluti...   Jul 6 2014, 12:07 AM
Acadian   Oh that sounds great! One of the reasons I di...   Jul 6 2014, 01:14 AM
Callidus Thorn   Oh that sounds great! One of the reasons I d...   Jul 6 2014, 09:35 AM
SubRosa   I understand that back in BG1 when you slept you d...   Jul 6 2014, 03:08 AM
Acadian   Thanks for some of those pros and cons. When last...   Jul 6 2014, 03:27 AM
SubRosa   The EEs have native support for widescreen display...   Jul 6 2014, 05:09 AM
Acadian   I think the reason I backed away from BG II the la...   Jul 6 2014, 03:09 PM
SubRosa   If you want simplicity I would suggest going with ...   Jul 6 2014, 05:16 PM
Acadian   Thanks for the additional info. I'll wait un...   Jul 6 2014, 05:48 PM
SubRosa   As an added bonus to waiting, over time more old m...   Jul 6 2014, 08:51 PM
Acadian   I never touched any of the NWN stuff. In BG II, y...   Jul 6 2014, 09:26 PM
Lopov   Dorn looks badass, I checked his pic on the Wiki. ...   Jul 7 2014, 09:54 AM
SubRosa   There are four new Companions: Dorn, Neera, Rasaad...   Jul 7 2014, 05:11 PM
ghastley   Just installed BG1 on my laptop. Now I have to see...   Jul 7 2014, 06:13 PM
SubRosa   What you could try is putting the old hard drive i...   Jul 7 2014, 06:53 PM
SubRosa   I finished the Black Pits 1 (for Baldur's Gate...   Jul 10 2014, 10:26 PM
Renee Gade IV   This weekend. I'm getting this game on my old ...   Jul 11 2014, 12:43 AM
SubRosa   It is well worth getting. One of the best games I ...   Jul 11 2014, 12:59 AM
SubRosa   Just out of curiosity I tried starting a new BG1 g...   Jul 11 2014, 01:26 AM
Renee Gade IV   Imoen. I remember that name. :) Is Steam required ...   Jul 11 2014, 02:19 AM
SubRosa   It isn't required, unless you buy it from Stea...   Jul 11 2014, 02:33 AM
Renee Gade IV   See, I bought BG from gamestop.com. And I'm no...   Jul 14 2014, 01:28 AM
SubRosa   Looks like the Gamestop version does require Steam...   Jul 14 2014, 01:39 AM
Renee Gade IV   I didn't even know Gamestop sold PC games vi...   Jul 14 2014, 01:57 AM
SubRosa   You can roll your own drunks toons indeed!   Jul 14 2014, 02:59 AM
Renee Gade IV   Just got it from Beamdog. Installing now. GameStop...   Jul 14 2014, 11:37 PM
SubRosa   It ought to work fine on a new box. I am using the...   Jul 15 2014, 12:22 AM
SubRosa   I tried Durlag's Tower tonight. I understand t...   Jul 15 2014, 02:44 AM
SubRosa   I rolled another toon for BG1 EE. Meet Tuonetar, a...   Jul 19 2014, 02:49 AM
Acadian   Sounds neat! I don't know if BG I support...   Jul 19 2014, 04:06 AM
SubRosa   I was experimenting with several classes, includin...   Jul 19 2014, 05:29 AM
SubRosa   Tuonetar and Ims mosied south from Friendly Arm In...   Jul 19 2014, 06:27 PM
Acadian   Lol. Minsc and Boo are legendary! Happily, ...   Jul 19 2014, 07:34 PM
SubRosa   I am still having a lot of fun with BG1. It was we...   Jul 19 2014, 10:01 PM
Renee Gade IV   I am still having a lot of fun with BG1. It was w...   Jul 20 2014, 05:55 PM
SubRosa   I got mine from Steam during their Summer Sale las...   Jul 20 2014, 06:05 PM
Renee Gade IV   I got ya. :) Well I'm rolling Sir Vayor now. H...   Jul 20 2014, 07:26 PM
SubRosa   I hope you have fun surveying the game with Sir Va...   Jul 20 2014, 07:44 PM
SubRosa   Today Tuonetar and company made their way south fr...   Jul 21 2014, 02:35 AM
Acadian   I recall from the original BG I that Minsc was clo...   Jul 21 2014, 03:21 AM
SubRosa   I am not sure what I will make of Dynaheir. I will...   Jul 22 2014, 03:04 AM
Acadian   Neat! I'm so pleased that you like Minsc...   Jul 22 2014, 03:53 AM
SubRosa   Today Tuonetar explored the southern edge of the m...   Jul 24 2014, 01:48 AM
SubRosa   Today Tuonetar and her band of merry heroes finish...   Jul 25 2014, 03:23 AM
Acadian   I understand about Dynaheir. As I said, she dies ...   Jul 25 2014, 03:34 AM
Renee Gade IV   EE Keeper sounds interesting. I might have to try ...   Jul 25 2014, 12:50 PM
Acadian   I forget the name of the character editor that I u...   Jul 25 2014, 01:43 PM
Renee Gade IV   Yeh I tried messing with one editor I found on som...   Jul 25 2014, 02:35 PM
SubRosa   It sounds like you are trying to use Shadowkeeper?...   Jul 25 2014, 05:07 PM
SubRosa   Tuonetar, Neera, Imoen, and Minsc have succeeded i...   Jul 26 2014, 11:46 PM
Renee Gade IV   Oooh color spray. Prrretty. Can't get EE Kee...   Jul 27 2014, 03:11 AM
SubRosa   That is the same version I am using, without the S...   Jul 27 2014, 03:31 AM
Renee Gade IV   It keeps saying I have to 'reload the game res...   Jul 27 2014, 09:24 AM
Acadian   Renee, hope you get that character editor mod work...   Jul 27 2014, 03:13 PM
Renee Gade IV   Yes, I got it. I think I got it. Several files wer...   Jul 27 2014, 03:27 PM
SubRosa   Today's Balduring saw Tuon and company finish ...   Jul 28 2014, 01:47 AM
Acadian   Glad it's working well for Toon-Eater and her ...   Jul 28 2014, 12:44 PM
SubRosa   I can see where Imoen splitting classes with a spe...   Jul 29 2014, 01:13 AM
Renee Gade IV   :rofl: Toon Eater! :rofl: I didn't catch t...   Jul 29 2014, 03:44 AM
SubRosa   Tuonetar and company spent the last few nights exp...   Aug 1 2014, 11:18 PM
SubRosa   Tuonetar and company explored all of Cloakwood tod...   Aug 7 2014, 01:40 AM
Acadian   Glad it's still going well. Your party sounds...   Aug 7 2014, 03:55 AM
Lopov   Was Cloakwood forest accessible from the very star...   Aug 8 2014, 06:59 PM
SubRosa   It was inaccessable until I did Naskel Mine, and t...   Aug 8 2014, 07:04 PM
Acadian   I only played through BG I and TotSC one time, the...   Aug 8 2014, 07:53 PM
SubRosa   I was looking over my foursome's stats, and I ...   Aug 9 2014, 12:42 AM
Renee Gade IV   It's hard working these older games into moder...   Aug 9 2014, 01:11 AM
SubRosa   Its not so much that BG is an older game. That doe...   Aug 9 2014, 02:20 AM
Renee Gade IV   No no, I'm not saying there is any problem bec...   Aug 9 2014, 03:13 AM
SubRosa   So many games, so little time. I know what you mea...   Aug 9 2014, 04:22 AM
Lopov   Speaking of which, Tuonetar and crew cleared out t...   Aug 9 2014, 10:50 AM
SubRosa   Speaking of which, Tuonetar and crew cleared out ...   Aug 9 2014, 04:49 PM
SubRosa   Had a whirlwhind session today that saw Tuonetar s...   Aug 9 2014, 10:58 PM
Renee Gade IV   Nice! My session wasn't so good. Imoen and...   Aug 10 2014, 01:09 AM
SubRosa   I think I know the place you mean. It is the area ...   Aug 10 2014, 01:45 AM
Renee Gade IV   I think I know the place you mean. It is the area...   Aug 12 2014, 11:15 PM
Acadian   I can't recall if it was a problem in BG I, bu...   Aug 10 2014, 02:35 AM
Lopov   Jaheira is annoying in BG II as well but if you pi...   Aug 10 2014, 03:28 PM
Renee Gade IV   Thanks SR, I will take your advice about the templ...   Aug 10 2014, 03:47 PM
SubRosa   I finally wrapped up Baldur's Gate I this afte...   Aug 10 2014, 08:10 PM
Acadian   Congrats! Taking a break between BG I and II ...   Aug 10 2014, 08:22 PM
Lopov   Congratulations on finishing BG, IMO it's one ...   Aug 10 2014, 08:27 PM
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