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post Feb 5 2008, 05:44 AM
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IM TIRED AND TIRED OF TRYING TO FIND NEWS ON A NEW ES GAME. IS THERE ANYONE WHO KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ANOTHER ES!???


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post Feb 5 2008, 08:23 AM
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From what I know, Bethesda has trademarked the name "Skyrim" for future products including several games (on mobile and PC together with other consoles I think) and merchandise like T-Shirts or caps. It's on a site for registered things. That's the only thing we know, at the moment.


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post Feb 5 2008, 02:24 PM
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Bethesda said their next project was Fallout 3 was it? After that they'd start on ES V
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post Feb 5 2008, 05:47 PM
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I heard some cryptic hints from someone who thinks he knows what is going on that the next TES title will involve some kind of big end-of-times scenario, but how that is supposed to play out, no idea.

Quite honestly, I don't really care either. After the disappointment that Oblivion provided and what I have seen of Sellout 3 I lost all hope for the series.


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post Feb 5 2008, 07:31 PM
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That's where mods come in, Stargelman. Oh, and I think some guy from Bethesda (PR Hines I think) did say that after Fallout 3 Beth would handle the next ES game. Of course, I don't trust Hines (or any other PR guy for that matter since they're always full of crap) as much as I'd trust a real dev from Beth, like Emil Pagliarulo for example (he still is with Beth right? he did a splendid job with the DB quest line).


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post Feb 5 2008, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(stargelman @ Feb 5 2008, 05:47 PM) *

I heard some cryptic hints from someone who thinks he knows what is going on that the next TES title will involve some kind of big end-of-times scenario, but how that is supposed to play out, no idea.
It's always this or that or some other doom or gloom, and future's only hope is Jude Law armed with 5 bullets and no rifle and... oh, wait, wrong movie >_<

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Sellout 3
I LOL'd. Honestly.

But yeah, any game that seriously considers a nuclear bazooka as a viable weapon is... how do I put it? Over the top ridiculous. And no crotch sniping... for shame, Beth, for shame.

As for TESF V, I won't play it. Hell, I didn't even play Oblivion yet, remember? Piss poor, things to do with money I'm earning now, no time or resources for new components? Yeah. I could care more, but thankfully, I don't.

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post Feb 5 2008, 10:11 PM
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If you'll play without mods then you really have nothing to miss Milanius. Oblivion is just a crappier version of Morrowind without mods. Morrowind with fast travel, horses and telepathic guards. The better graphics are something optional since it depends on the computer you're using.


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post Feb 6 2008, 05:09 PM
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Mods can't fix what I think is wrong with Oblivion. It's an ok computer game, but my point is that it is a lousy TES game, measured by the standards created by the previous games. The story is bleh, there is barely any background story, no politics of any kind, no faction conflicts aside from that one FG questline, the lore's been mistreated so bad it'll never fly again and the world is bland and quite boring. I won't even mention dialog. There are a lot of other things that are wrong with this game, but I don't really feel like going into them again as I have had this discussion countless times before and I just don't care for this series anymore - that is for any new installments. I still love the old games.


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post Feb 6 2008, 05:36 PM
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Oh, you meant those things. Well, yes, from TES standards Oblivion is a damned hacked-up game both in terms of lore, atmosphere, dialogue, factions, politics and many other things (why did they remove the ability to wear two different gauntlets or two different pauldrons? Pauldrons don't even exist in Oblivion anymore!).

But as you said, if one starts complaining about why Oblivion is a bad game TES-wise, one can go on forever. I meant mods can fix some more in-your-face issues like the level scaling system (hats down to OOO and Francesco's!).


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post Feb 6 2008, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(stargelman @ Feb 6 2008, 05:09 PM) *

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the lore's been mistreated so bad it'll never fly again
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I just love it how they made Sheo in Shivering Isles a complete and utter homicidal maniac. Yep, being a Mad God is all about threatening a guy/gal who is here to help your butt with gut wrenching and dismembering females to make musical instruments out of her body parts... neat.

And before anyone starts saying "why the hell are you talking about something you know NOTHING about", I still visit TIL from time to time and read, so, yeah.


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more edit: level scaling is also a silly thing. Where in hell do you get a Lv30 Bear? And how do you fight it?

In Gothic II I have had areas that literally made me cry, since creeps were so tough hey would rip me in half ina single swing/bite... but, imagine that joy when I climb a rock in the middle of a worg-infested forest and start sniping at them, killing them one by one, until area is safe? That is what RPG should be all about, overcoming lousy odds and showing guts in the face of doom.

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post Feb 8 2008, 11:03 PM
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I don't think I'm getting TES V, honestly. Oblivion was disappointing, especially since I expected a interesting plot 'n stuff. I was actually so excited I wrote my own vision on how the plot could go... I still have it somewhere, and I could post it here in a short summary, if anyone cares to listen.

However, SI is rather interesting. I just got it recently, and I must say, so far, so good... 'Cheese for everyone! Wait, scratch that, cheese for no one. That's as much of a celebration if you don't like cheese.'


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post Feb 16 2008, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(stargelman @ Feb 6 2008, 04:09 PM) *

Mods can't fix what I think is wrong with Oblivion. It's an ok computer game, but my point is that it is a lousy TES game, measured by the standards created by the previous games. The story is bleh, there is barely any background story, no politics of any kind, no faction conflicts aside from that one FG questline, the lore's been mistreated so bad it'll never fly again and the world is bland and quite boring. I won't even mention dialog. There are a lot of other things that are wrong with this game, but I don't really feel like going into them again as I have had this discussion countless times before and I just don't care for this series anymore - that is for any new installments. I still love the old games.

I agree, from what I played of Oblivion they not only butchered the game by removing several of my favorite skills and abilities but they didn't really add anything new and exciting. The lore and story were obviously neglected as well as many of the quests. Even with the flaws it has its okay for an action game but piss poor for an RPG in my opinion. I was able to enjoy Morrowind on an entirely different level and also for a much greater period of time...hell I played it for years and didn't get bored...I couldn't ever really get into Oblivion enough to bring myself to play for more than a few hours at a time.

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post Feb 20 2008, 07:00 PM
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Yeah I'm not sure if I would play another TES game. I mean, I'll be honest, I probably will end up buying it and playing it. However, Oblivion gave me none of the joy Morrowind did. I literally played Morrowind for nearly every day for two years. I know that's a little extreme, but I really could not find a game I liked more. I really felt comfortable, familiar, and satisfied with Morrowind. When Oblivion came out, it lost that whole feeling for me. I enjoyed it some of the time, but there was not as many features, and really, the story was pathetic compared to Morrowind.
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post Apr 7 2008, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(stargelman @ Feb 6 2008, 06:09 PM) *

The story is bleh

I don't agree with you there. Actually, I think the story is better than Morrowind's. I mean come on, "Dagoth Uhr is a traitor and he has the power of Vvardenfell" bla bla bla. All the same in every game a "traitor, devil" has the great power and you're going to stop it". Kind of annoying. I really love Oblivion and I'm getting GOTY edition for more quests.
Well, that was just my opinion...


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I really hope that ES V is going to be Valenwood. Not Skyrim for Gods Sake! We have the bloodmoon expansion and Bruma is like a city in Skyrim.
But when I think about I would prefer that you could be in every province.

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post Apr 7 2008, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(Daedroth @ Apr 7 2008, 12:59 PM) *

QUOTE(stargelman @ Feb 6 2008, 06:09 PM) *

The story is bleh

I don't agree with you there. Actually, I think the story is better than Morrowind's. I mean come on, "Dagoth Uhr is a traitor and he has the power of Vvardenfell" bla bla bla. All the same in every game a "traitor, devil" has the great power and you're going to stop it".


Worst summary, ever.
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Come on, you show up, your a prisoner, TES prerequisete, you get somwe papers to see Cosias Cascades, (or whatever) and he turns out to be a spy leader?! Of course you have to find this out from smooka-dealing thieves guilder's, but still. Then your running around for him as you collect pieces of the proechy that points to noone, until Cosias points at you and goes "You get the save the island!" From there on your playing along with the profecy (sp...), until you get to Dagoth Ur, and sure it's the never ending Devil vs Hero, but he's not out to be top dog... well he is in a round-a-bout fashion, but to use the -heart- of a god to power a dwemer corpus spreader. (He has some serious mechanical skills.)

Oblivion; your a hero, quick, get Martin! Oh thanks, lets find out what he wants to do. Go into an enemy shrine and steal a book... Kill a spy... Go into a gate and save .. [spoilers deleted]

I dunno, Morrowind just had a classy feel to it anyway, it wasn't Alyied ruin every thirty feet, bandit camp... well actually bandits were pretty common in both.


Elswyhre (err), FTW!



Almost everyone here has completed Morrowind, but the same is not true for Oblibian, so please keep the spoilers to a minimum. Thanks.

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post Apr 8 2008, 06:22 AM
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Well, when you say it like that of course Morrowind sounds better. Don't take me wrong, I love Morrowind and I've play it ALOT! But for some reason I enjoy Oblivion more (except for the training system). I don't complain about Oblivion. It's such a great looking game (and since I'm playing most on the 360 the graphics are really high) and the side quests (not the main quest) are so creative. That's what i like about Oblivion.
By the way; isn't this chat a bit off-topic?


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The editing was just a spelling thing.

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Oops, sorry! sad.gif

And yeah, this really sould get back on topic huh.gif

Valenwood would be fun.. big trees, crazy Bosmer... Though you'd have to put up with all of Fargoth's 2nd cousins and whatnot...


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post Apr 8 2008, 09:32 PM
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Don't forget the adoring fan too! BTW, why is the wood elfs always the most annoying characters (not the most annoying race) I mean just look at Fargoth Adoring Fan (which is a kid in my world) and Maglir. GAAH!


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post Apr 13 2008, 10:45 AM
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I am a recent owner to the Elder scrolls saga .

I Think as far as a console game Oblivion is a breath of fresh air.
It was a worthy sucessor to the old PS game "Exhumed" i had been looking for.
Now when i want to hack some evil sod to death i dont seek a flamin keyboard.(execpt for C&C generals).

There is scope for the elder scrolls to venture in all the other provinces in Tamriel , perhaps even an expedition to Akavir to take revenge for the disaster of Ionith.

Indeed we can all look for perfection (PS3 dosent give u access to the Orrory), but it takes a lot of nouse when there is a connection to the rest of Tamriel if you read the books in the game .
So stick with the saga, im sure playability and story issues will has will continue to differ to slightly to previous chapters.

So bring on Skyrim, Valenwood or Hammerfell, there is no other developer creating adventures any thing near this.

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post Apr 15 2008, 03:45 PM
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Not Valenwood ! Wood elves are a nuisance in Oblivion. And they are ugly.
Nords are not very funny though.
DId not redguard take place in hammerfell ?
I don't really think they could make a whole game in blackmarsh, with only argonians. Too bad

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