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Posted by: Dantrag May 2 2005, 12:52 AM

In my state, they are planning on banning most exotic pets. The general assembly (state's equivalent of Congress) has a bill running (it is not yet approved) to ban snakes that have the potential to grow over 8' long. And if you already own one, then you have to get a permit. In order to get the permit, you have to ahve a microchip installed on your pet, (at owner's expense.) have to have it neutered/spayed (at owner's expense,) and ahve to have a written "plan of action" if it somehow escapes.

Being an owner of a ball python and a burmese python, this pisses me off.

It seems a little ridiculous. It would make pet shops and breeders lose money considering it would be illegal to breed the animals. Not to mention the headaches of getting a permit. A breeder would have to apply for over 1,000 permits to cover all of his "potentially dangerous" animals.

The bill also bans monkeys. MONKEYS! You also can't have a bear. Makes sense, except for the fact that it clearly states, any bear but a black bear...why a black bear? I don't understand. If the bill passes I'll probably go into hiding with my snake buddies. If you are really interested in seeing how dumb politicians are, read the actual bill...

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2005/Bills/Senate/HTML/S1032v1.html

Just needed to vent. Don't really care if you read it. I had to let it out.

Posted by: Soulseeker3.0 May 2 2005, 01:05 AM

hmmmm.... uh hu.... i see.... yes that is bull shat and a monkey!?!? now I know monkeys are awsome and I personally would love to have one but I dout I will But Banning them is rediculus. the worst they can do is throw turds at you...... (yes lots of typo's)

I feel sorry for you and your state, but one question, how many people do you know that own a bear??? I mean they aren't exactially the kind of animal that you take on walks.

I got to go sweep something be back to rant later... and p.s. what state is it??? and wow! that was fun.

Posted by: Dantrag May 2 2005, 01:08 AM

North Carolina.

And I just thought it was ridiculous to be bale to own a black bear, but not any other kind. What makes a black bear less "potentially dangerous" ?

And maybe one person per three years dies from their pet snake, and usually it's because the human is being stupid. If those odds are dangerous, make swimming in the ocean illegal...that's about how many people get killed by sharks.

Posted by: Soulseeker3.0 May 2 2005, 01:11 AM

yes i see I just looked over some of the things that will be illegle and a question with some of those things is, what is a person doing with a rhino or a kangaroo anyways? same with the hyenas and the elephants? I think they should let all of the Primates stay, I love mokeys and stuff.

Posted by: Wolfie May 2 2005, 02:25 AM

Statistically, i believe black bears are involved in more encounters with humans that result in injury or death than any other type of bear. I'm not sure though

Posted by: DoomedOne May 2 2005, 02:31 AM

That's probably true since not only is it is potentially the alrgest bear in the US.

Posted by: jonajosa May 2 2005, 03:08 AM

I have a black bear that lives in my backyard.

I read this thing on the news(online) that said a guy shot a bear that was running at him. That seems like a normal story and all but listen to this. When the guy got closer to the bear he saw that it was huge!! He called the forest service and the measured it.

20 FT tall!!!! The bears head was the size of that guys upper body! It had 2 other dead hikers inside its body also from previous encounters with hikers.

Talk about big. That guy must have been freaked out.

Posted by: Soulseeker3.0 May 2 2005, 03:10 AM

ummm just mabey.... I would have needed to clean my shorts afterwards

Posted by: Channler May 2 2005, 08:39 PM

[quote=Dantrag]North Carolina.

And I just thought it was ridiculous to be bale to own a black bear, but not any other kind. What makes a black bear less "potentially dangerous" ?

And maybe one person per three years dies from their pet snake, and usually it's because the human is being stupid. If those odds are dangerous, make swimming in the ocean illegal...that's about how many people get killed by sharks.[/quote]

How many people here are from NC? I think this makes 4 of us? Represent!

Anyways that bill is so stupid.. I swear, if I want to have a pet elephant, than I SHOULD have a pet elephant

I'm curious who started the bill? A democrat or a republican? I'm thinking it would be dem cause NC is kinda their playground..

Posted by: Andric May 2 2005, 08:51 PM

You guys think you have it hard... Your not from Ohio.

Our state made us take a test that if we didnt pass, we would be unable to graduate. And this thing was far worse than any profitionsy test. My brain still hurts :drool:

Posted by: Channler May 2 2005, 08:55 PM

..err.. Thats the same here.. we have to take tests and if we don't pass them we don't graduate either. tongue.gif

Posted by: Andric May 2 2005, 08:57 PM

[quote=Channler]..err.. Thats the same here.. we have to take tests and if we don't pass them we don't graduate either. tongue.gif[/quote]
Oh, okay.

Posted by: Soulseeker3.0 May 2 2005, 09:35 PM

LOL I think everyone takes that kind of test.

Posted by: Dantrag May 2 2005, 09:43 PM

like the computer skills test. Geez. That test was easy - i passed in eighth grade - but they keep saying that i have never taken it and keep trying to get me to take it again.

I got a perfect score, so that's why I don't want to retake it.

Posted by: darkcootie May 3 2005, 12:37 AM

[quote=Soulseeker3.0]LOL I think everyone takes that kind of test.[/quote]thank you no child left behind.

so who all is from north carolina. i am, channler is, and so is dantrag. any one else?

Posted by: Dantrag May 3 2005, 01:40 AM

jonajosa i believe is from NC.

No child left behind actually leaves behind the children that are super failing and super passing. It only concentrates on the mid-level students.

Laws in general must be stupid.

Posted by: darkcootie May 3 2005, 03:25 AM

i knew i forgot jona. anyway i really am starting to care less since im 2 years to getting out of school

Posted by: Oozae May 3 2005, 09:38 AM

[quote=Soulseeker3.0]yes i see I just looked over some of the things that will be illegle and a question with some of those things is, what is a person doing with a rhino or a kangaroo anyways? same with the hyenas and the elephants? I think they should let all of the Primates stay, I love mokeys and stuff.[/quote]People might have Kangaroos if they want to eat them. They are quite popular.

Posted by: Channler May 3 2005, 08:27 PM

[quote=darkcootie]i knew i forgot jona. anyway i really am starting to care less since im 2 years to getting out of school[/quote]

I think TreyDog is also from NC...

NoChild left behind thing has a good purpose. but I think that it was executed horribly.. besides NC schools are pretty bad compared to VA or PA or even SC

Posted by: minque May 3 2005, 08:39 PM

[quote=Channler][quote=darkcootie]i knew i forgot jona. anyway i really am starting to care less since im 2 years to getting out of school[/quote]

I think TreyDog is also from NC...

NoChild left behind thing has a good purpose. but I think that it was executed horribly.. besides NC schools are pretty bad compared to VA or PA or even SC[/quote]

Actually treydog is from Tennessee..... wink.gif

Posted by: jonajosa May 3 2005, 08:50 PM

But he lives so close to NC I believe he can be called a North Carolinian. Like me! Were mountain people. Or as you lowlanders would call us "Hillbillies."

Posted by: minque May 3 2005, 08:53 PM

hmmm yeah , heard of that, so how is it to be a hillbilly? wink.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: jonajosa May 3 2005, 09:32 PM

Well being a hillbilly is sorta like trying to hate politicians because they cant get thier facts strait most of time....

im sorry but i cant stand the fact of going OFF TRACK OF THE ORIGINAL TOPIC!!! so then ms mod-er-ator please controll yourself or i will have to get the baseball bat out and go crazy. thank you.

Posted by: Channler May 3 2005, 09:39 PM

[quote=Dantrag]
Laws in general must be stupid.[/quote]

Err.. I didn't notice that part.

So tell me.. would you want to live in a Anarchy? I for one would rather not..

Posted by: DoomedOne May 3 2005, 10:46 PM

Thanks for finally agreeing with me on something Channler. I don't like No Chilf Left Behind because it turns schools into a business. It makes the administrators take all the heat for students that are just lazy or losers without giving them any idea on how to go about getting students to be more motivated. You can't just fart motivation. Students, teachers, parents and administrators all share responsibility in how successful a student is. I didn't even go into mentioning how I feel about outcomes in general as a means of measuring intelligence.

But, I disgress, No Child Left Behind has been going on in California before Bush, so I can't pin this on him this time. :ashamed:

Posted by: darkcootie May 4 2005, 03:19 AM

[quote=Channler][quote=darkcootie]i knew i forgot jona. anyway i really am starting to care less since im 2 years to getting out of school[/quote]

I think TreyDog is also from NC...

NoChild left behind thing has a good purpose. but I think that it was executed horribly.. besides NC schools are pretty bad compared to VA or PA or even SC[/quote]for serious? Damn i always thought we were really good or at least pretty good

Posted by: Channler May 4 2005, 04:54 AM

[quote=darkcootie][quote=Channler][quote=darkcootie]i knew i forgot jona. anyway i really am starting to care less since im 2 years to getting out of school[/quote]

I think TreyDog is also from NC...

NoChild left behind thing has a good purpose. but I think that it was executed horribly.. besides NC schools are pretty bad compared to VA or PA or even SC[/quote]for serious? Damn i always thought we were really good or at least pretty good[/quote]

Lol, no.. Now the western side of the state has slightly better schools but its still plagued by the government running it.

Posted by: Dantrag May 4 2005, 07:41 PM

[quote=Channler][quote=Dantrag]
Laws in general must be stupid.[/quote]

Err.. I didn't notice that part.

So tell me.. would you want to live in a Anarchy? I for one would rather not..[/quote]


No, just using an extreme overstatement. I DO think that laws should exist, but some lawmakers just go WAY overboard.

Posted by: Channler May 4 2005, 09:06 PM

Yes thats very true... Though for the first few days of Anarchy it would be fun.. untill we'd have to start working again, and joblessness runs rampant and people start mudering each other by the 1millions! :eek:

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