Well, now my decision is even harder lol. I'm just not sure what fits my character. She has been helping the NCR, but she has also had mixed feelings about them. I'm not sure how much my personal feelings (if this were a real situation) and my character's differs or compares. So I have put the decision off for now but I am going to have to do it soon. Awfully annoyed at those random Legionary bullet-sponges that pop up.
At the very least, I am pretty sure I don't want to help Mr. House. So now I am deciding between the NCR and independence.
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Nov 9 2018, 08:39 PM)
Don't forget that after the war Mr. House laid low for a long time. I am not sure if it was just decades or over a century. When he came back he released his army of robots onto the Strip and murdered everyone living there. Then he created the 3 families and put them in charge of their casinos (and essentially to handle all the day to day operations of running New Vegas). So he's a stone-cold killer.
Also, I am not sure that House actually did anything to save Vegas from being nuked. He did not even have his platinum chip then to upgrade his robots. I do not recall ever finding anything in the game that would stop an ICBM, or make it go off course, or detonate prematurely. But I could be wrong on that.
So he is basically a ruthless businessman who will kill anyone who gets in his way, even accidentally.
OTOH, the NCR is no picnic either. They only seem to be interested in the water from Lake Meade, the power from the Dam, and farms outside of New Vegas. Other than that they seem pretty indifferent to the fate of Nevadans. Plus their invasion of Nevada prompted a wave of colonists, who are causing friction with the natives in Freeside.
I would not characterize the NCR as being evil. But they are an outside, essentially Imperial force, with their own agenda. I think someone in Goodsprings - maybe Trudy - summed them up by saying that if you have something the NCR wants, they will come in and bring you freedom and democracy, whether you like it or not.
But to finally answer your question, I think the 'best' option is yourself. You can kill House, kill Caesar and Lanius, force the NCR out, then take it all for yourself. That is what I did on my last couple times. Hecate was nice enough to just let the NCR leave. Loviatar had her robots throw the NCR general off Hoover Dam to underscore the point that she was the new Queen of the Mojave (she would have eaten him, but the game never gave me the option).
Hmm, I don't remember the part about Mr. House murdering people. But there was something about how he saved Vegas from nukes, although I don't remember exactly what the story was. Yeah, I'm definitely not helping Mr. House.
Are you able to help the NCR at the Battle of Hoover Dam and then kick them out of the Mojave? Because I think I might do it that way. But the most important priority is to eradicate the Legion.
QUOTE(Uleni Athram @ Nov 9 2018, 08:55 PM)
Agreed with the Sage Rose. If you’re unsure, just be the change you want to see lol
Honestly, the Big Three bore me. Caesar’s Legion is what it is, the NCR is aping the Pre-War governments that led the Fallout world to where it is and House is shady as all hell. Personally I find House to have the most long-term potential out of all them, particularly if you factor in what he’d be able to do with the technologies of the Big MT. Schheeeeeeeeeeeiiissseee, he’d probably make the Courier an immortal cyborg! (Assuming they aren’t one already, with the choices you can make; haven’t played F:NV for like, years now and my memory is foggy)
I may just have to be that change lol.
QUOTE(TheCheshireKhajiit @ Nov 9 2018, 09:14 PM)
Lol, Khajiit just wanted to forget the Mojave and live in Zion! Place is frickin’ beautiful!
This one thinks that part of the point is that all of the decisions suck.
Oh, for sure, Obsidian made these choices tough deliberately. And I totally respect and even like ambiguity (part of why I enjoy The Elder Scrolls and the Bethesda-made Fallouts so much). I just don't personally want the choices to be too hard lol.
QUOTE(Lopov @ Nov 10 2018, 07:48 AM)
Personally I don't think that any option is better than the other one, but I let my characters decide, so they make a decision based on their personal beliefs and morale.
I can't help but inject some of my own opinion into it, but I am trying to make it mostly based on what my character feels. I am not sure what would make most sense for her character yet, but I am starting to lean toward the independent route.
QUOTE(SubRosa @ Nov 10 2018, 09:15 AM)
My first character to do the main quest in New Vegas was
Annie Ley Oak. Her background was that she was an NCR Ranger, purposely sent in to assassinate House, Caesar, and Lanius. She was undercover as a Mojave Express Courier. So I went into it knowing that she was going to put the NCR in control of Nevada. It was a very good game, and I enjoyed playing her a lot. But while she did go through with bringing the NCR victory, by the end she was so disillusioned by the things she had done that she quit the Rangers and walked off into the sunset (well sunrise, as she went east).
So I agree with Lopov, in that you should do what is right for the character. Play different kinds of characters, and try different endings with them. So far I have only done the Independent route twice, and NCR once.
The House ending is not appealing to me because I don't see any reason to let him live. You can kill him and take it all and follow essentially the same path. The game does not give you any reason to feel loyalty to House, or even affection. So you may as well whack him.
Being female, the Legion ending never appealed to me.
I'm male but my character is female. And I don't appreciate the Legion's attitude towards them (or their attitudes on...virtually everything, really). So the Legion was never on the table for me. Made it extra satisfying to snipe the [censored] out of all the Legionaries at Cottonwood Cove yesterday--although I had to confront a couple of them head on like Aurelius--and have Astor make note of how a female wiped out those misogynist Legion clowns.
Regarding House, I really hate the ends-justify-the-means mentality (both in real life and for my character), and because of all the good he has done in the past he thinks he can do whatever he wants. Yeah, I'm definitely going to whack House as soon as I decide whether my character should take the NCR or independent endings.
This post has been edited by RaderOfTheLostArk: Nov 21 2018, 04:59 PM