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Drugs. Legal Or Illegal?, what do you think? |
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Dantrag |
Jul 26 2005, 03:57 PM
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Councilor
Joined: 13-February 05
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What do you guys think about drugs? Do you think they should remain illegal or become legalized? I agree that drugs can ruin your life, but so can alcohol, and that's legal. And honsetly, I think that alcohol is more harmful than marijuana. Alcohol makes a lot of people angry and violent when they are drunk, but people on marijuana are just relaxed and happy. I just want to know where the government draws the line for this stuff.
I think marijuana shoul;d be legalized, for the reason above, and for the fact that it would give the government a lot more money, and open up new jobs at the 'marijuana farm'. I think the other drugs should stay illegal though - they mess you up pretty bad, from what I hear.
(This is based on USA laws...don't know too much about other countries' policies on narcotics.)
PS - I do not smoke weed, I am speaking from seeing other people high and drunk.
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stargelman |
Jul 26 2005, 04:47 PM
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Senor Snore
Joined: 8-February 05
From: Onderon
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QUOTE(Kell-Reevor @ Jul 26 2005, 04:21 PM) The only reason I can think of that would (somewhat) explain why marijuana is still illegal would be public opinion.
Actually, there's a pretty strong lobby out there that will prevent it from ever becoming legal. The same kind of lobby that got Absyinthe outlawed. Guess what lobby I'm talking about.
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Dantrag |
Jul 26 2005, 07:39 PM
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Councilor
Joined: 13-February 05
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QUOTE(Channler @ Jul 26 2005, 02:11 PM) Oh, and its really hard to walk down the street with a bottle of jack drunk as a skunk because of this little law that makes it illeagal to be drunk in public Doesn't mean it doesn't happen. And nothing will happen to the offender if a cop doesn't happen by. I see drunk people walking downtown a lot.
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Channler |
Jul 26 2005, 08:37 PM
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Master
Joined: 20-March 05
From: Nashville, North Carolina
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QUOTE(vaanic~one @ Jul 26 2005, 04:27 PM) Marijjuana, or weed, or whatever, can still be pretty harmfull to you, it does some bad stuff to your brain and lungs all. The again, smoking anything is pretty bad for you. Anything in excess can kill you too Like McDonalds food.. argh
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Chumbaniya |
Jul 27 2005, 12:20 AM
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Joined: 13-May 05
From: The house of fun!
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I'd much rather have cannibis legalised and have cigarettes be illegal (though I'd rather have neither in public places). There is obviously the point about long-term mental damage from cannibis, but I don't know much about that. As far as I know, cannibis is much less physically damaging than cigarretes. Aside from the legality argument, one reason I see more point in cannibis (though I do not smoke either cannibis or cigarretes) is that it actually gets you high. Ever seen anyone get high of a cigarette? I don't see why anyone would want to even try out cigarretes, as there's no incentive there except peer pressure. Oh, and here's an interesting little fact - while it is possible to have a lethal dose of tobacco, no lethal dose of cannabis has ever been found. (Not counting simply eating cannabis till you explode, of course )
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DoomedOne |
Jul 27 2005, 04:02 AM
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Master
Joined: 13-April 05
From: Cocytus
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Marijuana should be legalized.
You guys realize the only reason it was illegalized in the first place was to give the FBI something to do after alcohol was legalized again.
Not only that, but Hemp, the male cannabis plant, makes really great natural rope, paper, etcetera. This guy who developed a synthetic rope that was about as good as hemp rope bribed governmnet officials to make Cannabis illegal to take this competing form of rope off the market.
I don't like marijuana, I could only see myself using it for medical purposes. It makes kids around here into losers that don't care about school or anything.
As far as Cocaine, Heroine, Hallucinogens, Methamphetamines and other drugs like that go, yeah they need to be illegal.
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Wolfie |
Jul 27 2005, 02:46 PM
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Mage
Joined: 14-March 05
From: Dublin, Ireland
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QUOTE(Chumbaniya @ Jul 27 2005, 12:20 AM) As far as I know, cannibis is much less physically damaging than cigarretes. Actually one jpint contains ten times as much tar as a single cigarette, so they are more physically damaging than cigarettes
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Aki |
Jul 27 2005, 08:15 PM
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Joined: 10-March 05
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QUOTE Alcohol makes a lot of people angry and violent when they are drunk, but people on marijuana are just relaxed and happy.
oh yes, thoswe stoners seem nice and relaxed while stoned, but when they can't get their fix, ohohohohoho. You'll see the violence. Addicts will do anything to get their fix.
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stargelman |
Jul 27 2005, 08:17 PM
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Senor Snore
Joined: 8-February 05
From: Onderon
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QUOTE(Aki @ Jul 27 2005, 08:15 PM) oh yes, thoswe stoners seem nice and relaxed while stoned, but when they can't get their fix, ohohohohoho. You'll see the violence. Addicts will do anything to get their fix. I think we're a little confused here. You must be thinking of herroin junkies.
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Channler |
Jul 27 2005, 08:39 PM
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Master
Joined: 20-March 05
From: Nashville, North Carolina
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Nope, I've seen people that do crack go flippin mad when they don't got their stuff... Its really scary. Odd though I've never seen a angry drunk man.. now I've seen a Drunk angry man but usualy that makes them happy
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Burnt Sierra |
Jul 27 2005, 09:52 PM
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Two Headed cat
Joined: 27-March 05
From: UK
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QUOTE(ShogunSniper @ Jul 27 2005, 09:32 PM) never got high so i couldn't say... but you have a point dantrag. and you hear of drunk drivers killing people more than high people.... i think they should all be outlawed. but if all marijuana does is make you happy, then why is it illegal. The argument has always been that 1) It leads to harder drugs. 2) Anything that makes you not 100% in charge of your senses is a bad thing. The first one is impossible to say, with any degree of conviction, either way. There have been studies proving it, and studies disproving it. I know which I believe, but again, I can't prove it. Second one is utter tosh, when you consider alcohol is legal. So it becomes do you ban alcohol and dope, or make both of them legal. The UK seems to be leaning towards legalising it, though of course, there are loud complaints about it. I think it will happen though. Eventually.
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Alexander |
Jul 27 2005, 10:33 PM
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Wizard
Joined: 8-February 05
From: Sorcerers Isle
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I'm from the netherlands myself, and here of course soft drugs are legal to be used. I think that's a good thing, it's far less of a problem then in countries where it's illegal, I've friends that use soft drugs, nothing but smoking weed that is, and have no problem with that. I don't do so myself just to be clear on that so should it be made legal in more countries, I think yes it should.
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