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Renee
post Oct 18 2022, 10:07 PM
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Yes, I have EE Keeper, did not know we can change play-character stats. Probably a lot of things I don't know about it. I remember using EE to give my party Antidotes, though. Seems like every other time they encountered baddies they'd poison one or more of my party!


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post Oct 19 2022, 10:39 AM
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Options in EE are almost limitless. You can for instance give your player a special petrifying gaze attack that turns enemies into stone. I once did a short playthrough of a beggar who'd turn people to stone. It's just an example of what can be done with the BG Keeper.


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post Oct 19 2022, 01:30 PM
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Ha ha that sounds pretty sweet! So your beggar was like Medussa.

Well I'll just give Hadden some sort of boost to his stats, maybe start him Level 2 instead of 1. I noticed BG is similar to the table-games we used to play, in the sense that this game levels up pretty slowly. 🎲 Which I like. Because back in the day when we all rolled dice, it took a long time to level up one of our PCs, days, weeks or months, not hours. When somebody finally went up, it would cause for celebration. cake.gif

Baldur's feels harder than the table-games though, that's why I want to cheat a little. With the table-games we could choose modules, here are some examples. These were basically adventure books, and they were all leveled. So if most of your party was Level 3, we could choose a module which too easy, just right, or even too hard! blink.gif

To me, Baldur's feels too easy sometimes, but too hard other times (especially when poison or some exotic magic gets involved). I want to at least try to level the playing field for Hadden Nuff. viking.gif




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post Nov 26 2022, 09:16 PM
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Buffy's playing ESO every morning but currently porting over to BGII EE for much of the rest of the day.

I enjoy BGII but it does take quite a bit of party tweaking to suit me. Currently Buffy is an Archer but has a fairly full suite of Druid spells. Acadian is a L13 Fighter dueled to Thief. Minsc is a keeper and he is a Monk. Aerie is also a keeper and she's a Sorceress. Will pick up Mazzy as our other keeper soon and plan to turn her into a human Inquisitor. That leaves a guest slot that will likely settle down into Nalia and perhaps later Imoen.


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post Nov 27 2022, 06:22 AM
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Is Acadian an NPC who can be hired or picked up? Or a custom-made PC? If he's a player-character, how are you able to get two PCs in one party?


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post Nov 27 2022, 02:35 PM
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Buffy is the protagonist. Acadian is a a created NPC. You can build your whole party of (max) 6 if you want. We are using in game NPCs for the other 4 party members. smile.gif


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post Nov 27 2022, 03:23 PM
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Okay, that right there. Acadian is a "created NPC". How did you do this?

Because what I want to do is roll a PC, and then add my own NPC into his party. But I've noticed BG only has pre-made NPCs.



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post Nov 27 2022, 05:35 PM
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It is not real intuitive. I'm playing BG II EE Shadows of Amm.

Single Player > New Game > Create your PC up to where you get Accept available at the bottom of the menu but don't click Accept. Instead, click Create Party. The next menu allows you to make additional custom party members.


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post Nov 27 2022, 07:20 PM
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Ah, that's BG2, I am playing the first game. Maybe that's why I can't find any options


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post Nov 27 2022, 07:35 PM
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Aww, sorry. I played BGI first one time with expansions back around 1990 then immediately moved to BGII and really preferred it. I also tried Icewind Dale one time and went back to BGII. As modern computers got stupid about older games, I had to give up BGII. Thanks to GoG with the BGII EE and some encouragement for SubRosa, I added BGII back into Buffy's very limited lineup of ESO and BGII.


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post Nov 28 2022, 06:52 AM
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I am glad to hear you are having fun with BG2 again, after all these years. I might get back to it with either January or Blood Raven someday.


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post Nov 28 2022, 09:52 PM
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Renee: This works in BG1 EE as well. At the very end of character creation there will be a button for Create Party.

You can also create a party by going to the Pregenerate Character button, which is right below the New Game button. It takes you through the whole character generation. Then at the end click on Export, and pick a file name for the character. That saves the character for later. Do this for all the self-created NPCs you want.

Then when you want to start a new game, go to the New Game button, create your main character there, and as Acadian said at the end click on Create Party. It will show a list of 6 character slots, with the one you just created at the upper left. Then you can go to the other slots and pick Import, and select the characters you pregenerated before.

This is handy because it gives you plenty of time to pregenerate each custom NPC. Especially since if there is not a portrait you like, you can exit the game and go find/make one. Or if you want to exit the game to check on a rule about skills or something. Then you don't have to start completely over.


Acadian: Now you have me thinking of doing BG2EE with January as a Paladin, and bringing in a couple of friends. Maybe Okami/Ryo as a Fighter/Thief. Or as a Thief dual-classed to Fighter. All I ever use a thief for is traps and lockpicking. Once those are at 100, I don't see much need for more Thief levels. Then maybe Gadget as a Cleric. That is how I ran him in Icewind Dale.

Then maybe I could also run Aerie as a sorcerer. I never thought of running Minsc as a Monk! The last time I made him a Barbarian.


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post Nov 28 2022, 11:06 PM
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Okay cool I'll try looking for that next time I'm playing some BG. cake.gif


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post Dec 26 2022, 04:24 PM
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So Buffy's still splitting our game time between ESO and BGII EE. We rely quite heavily on the editor to tweak things and have at least a couple games in BGII going. What seems to be giving us the most fun is Buffy running solo as an elven no-melee mystic archer. She is sort of similar to a Shadowdancer thief dualed to Mage with a boatload of bow enhancement - and little resembles any vanilla class.


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post Dec 27 2022, 02:07 PM
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About the fact she is no melee. Psychologically, do you think there's any connection, even a subconscious one, that this has anything to do with your former career as a pilot in the Air Force? I don't know if you ever saw combat, but as a pilot, you would've gotten that perspective where you'd never have to see combat first hand. Everything's very precise, you might only get one chance to fire that missile into its target, but everything's also from a distance. You'd be trained in this way. Which is similar to your elf, who's entire approach toward combat is specifically geared toward not dealing with enemies in close quarters.

It's a stretch, I know, but this is how I think in terms of my own characters, sometimes. I sometimes realize there are certain aspects of them that I've subconsciously inserted or inspired from my own habits/psyche/emotions/whatever. If I roll somebody who is particularly evil for instance, there are times I realize what's really going on when they become torturous, or gross, or whatever. Maybe I'm releasing pent-up anger from the past, or dealing with stress which is going on in my day-to-day.

But I have my limits. I could never roll a Rattler, for instance. Because there's just nothing there in my own head which equates to somebody THAT evil.

Damn, sorry. I need coffee! ☕

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post Dec 27 2022, 04:59 PM
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Nope. I was a pilot in the Marine Corps and we get plenty of opportunities to take metal to the face. Lol. Buffy's no-melee fetish stems from the fact that she is too small and weak to do anything with a 'hitting stick' except piss off her foe. Nor is she strong enough to properly wear real protective armor. Hence, she learned early on to rely on ranged weaponry with magic, speed and stealth to compensate for her limitations. At least she's a small target. tongue.gif


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post Jan 6 2023, 02:23 AM
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It is cool that you are getting back to BGII after all this time. I still enjoy playing those 20 year old games. They are as fun as they ever were. More fun, as now I know how to mod them with the console and save game editors.


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post Jan 17 2023, 01:34 AM
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Thanks, SubRosa, and I certainly agree. EE was a dramatic improvement since BGII became unplayable for me years ago due to glitches. Thanks for your comments through the thread regarding the editor as it really provides the flexibility that I want. I've been running Buffy in numerous combinations and set ups but keep coming back to going solo as a mystic archer being the most fun - sniping and casting with no melee.


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post Aug 4 2023, 04:59 PM
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Baldur’s Gate 3 is out now y’all. Anyone here going to check it out?


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post Aug 4 2023, 06:17 PM
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I'm curious about BG3 but, like all D&D games, it starts with a couple inherent drawbacks. D&D rules try to preclude bow + magic and force you to bow + melee if you wanna be an archer. And for mages, the cumbersomeness of pre-memorizing spells the night before pretty much rules out regular mages and sorcerers can't multi/dual class. . . . I do look forward to seeing some reviews of it though.


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