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SubRosa
post Jul 17 2019, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jul 16 2019, 06:39 PM) *

I guess Boo wouldn't be able to go for the eyes on that one...

I started Hordes Of The Underdark yesterday. I have been enjoying it immensely. I did not realize that there was an npc who would give you the rod of resurrection before you went in. Nor did I know you could go up and out of the inn and into the city to shop. I just went straight in. Eventually I went back just to see if I could. Thankfully you can do that. I was wondering what I would do with all the loot I picked up if not.

I also finally figured out how the teleport thing works. I wish I had realized that to start with too.

Wow, there is a lot of loot! I don't really feel bad about losing all my gear to start with. Well, not since I used the console to get some of it back, like my armor and helmet. I just found a pair of uber monk gloves that adds a ton of damage. Plus I think a +4 belt of Agility. January is really geared up already.

I have also been solo'ing it with no problem. I got the rod of resurrection after going back out once and then heading back in, and resurrected Daelan and Sharwyn. But I did not bother teaming up. The same with Deekin. It is kind of fun going it alone in this game. It's a first. January just hit level 18, the highest level I have ever had a character in any D&D game.


The lady in the cellar (White Thelma or something like that, IIRC) sells some stuff, but yeah, the shopkeepers outside the tavern have much better stuff. Just wait until you get even further into the DLC. You get some crazy powerful stuff. I remember finding a decent amount of monk equipment, actually, one being called Gloves of the Hin Fist +7. The loot definitely mitigates the blow of losing your equipment, fortunately.

It took me a while to figure out how the Relic of the Reaper (the teleporter thing) works too.

January sure isn't someone to be trifled with. If 18 is the highest you have ever been in D&D, you're going to blow that personal record out of the water at the end of HOTu. Eliza Maddox was level 18 after the main campaign and Shadows of Undrentide, and at the end of Hordes of the Underdark she was level 27. And that was always with a companion (it is possible to have two at the same time in HOTU), so it'll be interesting to see what January ends up being when she is all done since she will have all the XP to herself. But she has her work cut out for her in chapters 2 and 3, that's for sure.

Deekin really endeared himself to me in SOU, and I was somewhat surprised he popped up again in HOTU. So I took him along again and eventually got my second companion to join us later in the DLC. The second companion, however...had some seriously wonky AI. I'll leave it at that for now so I don't spoil anything.

I remember Deekin from Neverwinter Nights 2. He is a companion and a merchant, and I liked him in that. I also remember him from when I did SOU with a previous character. I love his horrible singing! smile.gif

I skipped SOU with January, so she might not get as high level Eliza did. I was afraid of getting burned out on the game after the original campaign, which often happens since it is so long. I am glad I stuck it out to finally do HOTU.


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post Jul 19 2019, 01:48 AM
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He slimed me...

The Purple Man

Looker

Black eye

Can someone give me a hand?




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post Jul 19 2019, 02:59 AM
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I remember Deekin from Neverwinter Nights 2. He is a companion and a merchant, and I liked him in that. I also remember him from when I did SOU with a previous character. I love his horrible singing! smile.gif

I skipped SOU with January, so she might not get as high level Eliza did. I was afraid of getting burned out on the game after the original campaign, which often happens since it is so long. I am glad I stuck it out to finally do HOTU.


Speaking of NWN2, would you recommend that game as well? How similar/different is it to NWN1? I tried searching for some reviews and such, and it seems to be fairly different. (Also, even though it was only a few people on a couple of websites, I was a bit surprised at how much in some forum posts years ago people trashed the original game. Mostly the original campaign.) But I haven't found enough information to really convince me whether or not to buy the game. I do know that Bioware made 1 while Obsidian made 2, which I found a bit odd.

So what are your thoughts on NWN2? And that's good to know Deekin is in there, too.

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Something that did really piss me off in HOTU: Death magic. Death magic is total [censored]. Got hit with it in the beholder lair especially. I couldn't understand why I was getting one-shotted until a later boss did the same thing. From what I gather, that is what death armor potions are for and that is their sole purpose. It is such a cheap move, and it was already tough enough sledding as it is. That beholder pic got me thinking about that again.

In case you didn't know--because I couldn't figure it out until I looked it up--when those goblins slime you, those switches that the one goblin is operating apparently hit you especially hard with damage or stat reductions or something like that if he operates the switch that is the same color as the slime. Luckily, the goblins were pushovers.

The Djinn merchant! Such a useful resource.

There was only one time I encountered that hand, and it was a bunch of them in the same room later on in HOTU. Still not entirely sure what they do.


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post Jul 19 2019, 02:26 PM
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What a hoot!

Green Woman (beautiful effect btw) and Purple Man.

Beholder vs Jan. . . methinks they're both lookers. wink.gif

And Mr Hand. tongue.gif


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post Jul 19 2019, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(RaderOfTheLostArk @ Jul 18 2019, 09:59 PM) *

QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jul 17 2019, 08:15 AM) *

I remember Deekin from Neverwinter Nights 2. He is a companion and a merchant, and I liked him in that. I also remember him from when I did SOU with a previous character. I love his horrible singing! smile.gif

I skipped SOU with January, so she might not get as high level Eliza did. I was afraid of getting burned out on the game after the original campaign, which often happens since it is so long. I am glad I stuck it out to finally do HOTU.


Speaking of NWN2, would you recommend that game as well? How similar/different is it to NWN1? I tried searching for some reviews and such, and it seems to be fairly different. (Also, even though it was only a few people on a couple of websites, I was a bit surprised at how much in some forum posts years ago people trashed the original game. Mostly the original campaign.) But I haven't found enough information to really convince me whether or not to buy the game. I do know that Bioware made 1 while Obsidian made 2, which I found a bit odd.

So what are your thoughts on NWN2? And that's good to know Deekin is in there, too.

QUOTE(SubRosa @ Jul 18 2019, 08:48 PM) *


Something that did really piss me off in HOTU: Death magic. Death magic is total [censored]. Got hit with it in the beholder lair especially. I couldn't understand why I was getting one-shotted until a later boss did the same thing. From what I gather, that is what death armor potions are for and that is their sole purpose. It is such a cheap move, and it was already tough enough sledding as it is. That beholder pic got me thinking about that again.

In case you didn't know--because I couldn't figure it out until I looked it up--when those goblins slime you, those switches that the one goblin is operating apparently hit you especially hard with damage or stat reductions or something like that if he operates the switch that is the same color as the slime. Luckily, the goblins were pushovers.

The Djinn merchant! Such a useful resource.

There was only one time I encountered that hand, and it was a bunch of them in the same room later on in HOTU. Still not entirely sure what they do.

The Save vs. Death is an old D&D staple. The Beholder is the most infamous for using it. As you have noticed it has a bunch of eyes. In the classic pen and paper version of D&D each of its eyes shoots out a different magical attack. I believe the big center eye is the Death Ray one, though I could be wrong. I never liked it either, though there are other things about D&D I dislike even more, like the whole spellcasting system.

I eventually figured out the goblin slime. One of the goblins actually said that it made it easier for them to hit me. Though starting with an Armor Class in the 30's it really didn't help them any. January rolled through them like the superhero she is.

The big glowing hand is a classic D&D wizard spell, actually several. There is Bigby's Grasping Hand, Bigby's Crushing Hand, Bigby's Interposing Hand, etc...

The whole Bioware/Obsidian team up was kind of common for a while. After Bioware did KOTOR 1, Obsidian made KOTOR 2. So apparently back in the day the two companies had some kind of deal with Obsidian came behind and did all their sequels.

Neverwinter Nights 2 has a lot to recommend it. It uses the D&D 3.5 rules instead of 3.0 as NWN 1 does. That adds a few small improvements. The graphics are certainly vastly improved in NWN 2. It plays mostly the same, except you have more companions, and more control over the companion AI and inventories.

There were a lot of things I did not like about NWN 2 however. The companions are forced on you by the game's plot (although you can later dismiss them). The landmass to explore is dramatically smaller., and the game is much more linear. Most of all I did not much like the plot of the original campaign, which forced a background on your character. But that is a minor grievance compared to things later in the plot which annoyed me. I have never been able to finish it. Maybe after I do HOTU I will take another crack at it with January.



QUOTE(Acadian @ Jul 19 2019, 09:26 AM) *

What a hoot!

Green Woman (beautiful effect btw) and Purple Man.

Beholder vs Jan. . . methinks they're both lookers. wink.gif

And Mr Hand. tongue.gif

I thought the whole green thing was hilarious. It immediately had me thinking of Ghostbusters and getting slimed.

The Purple Man is actually a djinn, whose bottle you find. He is a merchant you can trade with whenever you call him out of his bottle. I keep forgetting I have him though!


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post Jul 21 2019, 11:28 PM
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Drow

Driders

Drider convention

January is fully buffed up on potions

A nice quiet day at the library

Ewww

Laying the smack down

Unlimited Power!


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post Yesterday, 01:22 AM
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Wow, what a variety of foes Jan fights in these shots. Dark elves, spider daedra, flesh astronauts and zombies. Best of all was the trio in the library - Wing Gurl, Vulture Dude and Big Red Bonehead. tongue.gif

And all solo it appears!


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