Star Wars Thread 1: The Phantom Post, Star Wars Options

[Dark Reaper]

George. What the hell George . . . .What. The. Hell.

I----I think I'm going to cry . I always said the prequels could have been good but George had to much control over the films.

This post has been edited by Dark Reaper: May 11 2017, 02:54 AM

[Crimson Paladin]

Hey Werewolf&Vampire. Good to see you again.

Okay . . . question for you guys. Anyone else get irritated when good stuff is deleted from the script and replaced with, well, not so stellar material? George Lucas had plenty of opportunities to make a GREAT story in Revenge of the Sith but he left some major stuff out. Substance.

In the original script for Episode III, Padme was a major character in planting the seeds and contributing the creation of the Rebel Alliance. The novel and deleted scenes explains some of it when Padme and major characters like Bail and Mon Mothma speak about Chancellor Palpatine and his position in the senate.

Apparently, Padme was going to kill Darth Vader . . . with a knife . . . on Mustafar . . . Wow.

Obi-Wan shows up. Vader freaks out . . . and fighting begins.

Here's the video. It starts at 28 minutes in.

George. What the hell George . . . .What. The. Hell.

I'm still miffed at her dying because she "lost the will to live".

[Darkness Eternal]

Hey Werewolf&Vampire. Good to see you again.

Okay . . . question for you guys. Anyone else get irritated when good stuff is deleted from the script and replaced with, well, not so stellar material? George Lucas had plenty of opportunities to make a GREAT story in Revenge of the Sith but he left some major stuff out. Substance.

In the original script for Episode III, Padme was a major character in planting the seeds and contributing the creation of the Rebel Alliance. The novel and deleted scenes explains some of it when Padme and major characters like Bail and Mon Mothma speak about Chancellor Palpatine and his position in the senate.

Apparently, Padme was going to kill Darth Vader . . . with a knife . . . on Mustafar . . . Wow.

Obi-Wan shows up. Vader freaks out . . . and fighting begins.

Here's the video. It starts at 28 minutes in.

George. What the hell George . . . .What. The. Hell.

I'm still miffed at her dying because she "lost the will to live".

I'd make far more sense if Sidious was draining her life force to sustain Vader. That's a popular theory anyway, or
Somehow Vader did unknowingly. But the whole "lost the will to live" in my opinion could have been left out.

[Dark Reaper]

I'm still miffed at her dying because she "lost the will to live".

I like to think she died due to the injuries from getting forced choked. That's one thing I liked about KOTOR is that it explains what force choke does.

[SubRosa]

I think the problem was George Lucas. Amidala/Padme has to die, because we know that Luke and Leia were raised by adoptive parents, with no knowledge of their biological mother. Plus she is the last link between Anakin and the light side. I really cannot see him becoming Vader while she is still alive. She would always be a beacon of hope to pull him back.

But George Lucas has never known what to do with female characters on even his best days, and the prequel films were definitely not his best days. He had to get rid of Padme, but didn't know how. The obvious answer is that Anakin straight out kills her, but in such a way that Luke and Leia can still be born and survive. But I don't think George was willing go so far as to show Anakin actually murdering the mother of his children (and then Obi-Wan doing an emergency c-section with a lighstaber to save the kids). Let's face it, that is really vile and despicable. Way beyond force choking Admiral Ozzel. We know Vader is a bad guy, but I really don't think George Lucas wanted to show him doing anything that personal and horrific on film.

So in the end Lucas literally did nothing, and Padme dies.... just because. Meh.

This post has been edited by SubRosa: May 18 2017, 02:49 AM

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

I think the problem was George Lucas. Amidala/Padme has to die, because we know that Luke and Leia were raised by adoptive parents, with no knowledge of their biological mother. Plus she is the last link between Anakin and the light side. I really cannot see him becoming Vader while she is still alive. She would always be a beacon of hope to pull him back.

But George Lucas has never known what to do with female characters on even his best days, and the prequel films were definitely not his best days. He had to get rid of Padme, but didn't know how. The obvious answer is that Anakin straight out kills her, but in such a way that Luke and Leia can still be born and survive. But I don't think George was willing go so far as to show Anakin actually murdering the mother of this children (and then Obi-Wan doing an emergency c-section with a lighstaber to save the kids). Let's face it, that is really vile and despicable. Way beyond force choking Admiral Ozzel. We know Vader is a bad guy, but I really don't think George Lucas wanted to show him doing anything that personal and horrific on film.

So in the end Lucas literally did nothing, and Padme dies.... just because. Meh.

Not sure what the deal was with that. Georgie boy makes it clear that Anakin murdered a bunch of children at the Jedi Temple but draws the line at outright murdering a pregnant Padme? Very odd.

[SubRosa]

I think the problem was George Lucas. Amidala/Padme has to die, because we know that Luke and Leia were raised by adoptive parents, with no knowledge of their biological mother. Plus she is the last link between Anakin and the light side. I really cannot see him becoming Vader while she is still alive. She would always be a beacon of hope to pull him back.

But George Lucas has never known what to do with female characters on even his best days, and the prequel films were definitely not his best days. He had to get rid of Padme, but didn't know how. The obvious answer is that Anakin straight out kills her, but in such a way that Luke and Leia can still be born and survive. But I don't think George was willing go so far as to show Anakin actually murdering the mother of this children (and then Obi-Wan doing an emergency c-section with a lighstaber to save the kids). Let's face it, that is really vile and despicable. Way beyond force choking Admiral Ozzel. We know Vader is a bad guy, but I really don't think George Lucas wanted to show him doing anything that personal and horrific on film.

So in the end Lucas literally did nothing, and Padme dies.... just because. Meh.

Not sure what the deal was with that. Georgie boy makes it clear that Anakin murdered a bunch of children at the Jedi Temple but draws the line at outright murdering a pregnant Padme? Very odd.

Yes, but I do not believe he ever really showed Anakin actually killing the younglings. If I recall it was just a holo that cuts out after a Anakin takes a swing. It is a lot more visceral when you see the real thing right in your face.

It is similar to Alderaan being blown up. We see the planet being destroyed. But we never actually see a single person dying. The actual human toll is left purely to our imagination.

This post has been edited by SubRosa: May 18 2017, 02:52 AM

[Dark Reaper]

Well just a few more months till Episode 8: The Last Jedi comes out which I'm looking forward to, at least I don't have to collect any new E8 figures .

[Dark Reaper]

Luke's Last Stand.

[SubRosa]

Luke's Last Stand.

Don't worry Luke, Sabine to the rescue!

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Luke's Last Stand.

Don't worry Luke, Sabine to the rescue!

Mandalorians ftw!

[Dark Reaper]

Don't worry Luke, Sabine to the rescue!

Ghost Squad to the rescue #DakLives .

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Don't worry Luke, Sabine to the rescue!

Ghost Squad to the rescue #DakLives .

Where's Hera?

[Dark Reaper]

Where's Hera?

In the cockpit, gotta keep the ship running for emergency take off.

[TheCheshireKhajiit]

Where's Hera?

In the cockpit, gotta keep the ship running for emergency take off.

Gotcha! That's what Khajiit figured.

[Callidus Thorn]

Luke's Last Stand.

Okay, TIE Bomber on the left, Y-wing on the right, but what's that TIE next to it?

And is anyone else thinking that the Ghost Squad pic looks like there's a little "recreation" going on front and centre during that rescue?

[Dark Reaper]

Okay, TIE Bomber on the left, Y-wing on the right, but what's that TIE next to it?

And is anyone else thinking that the Ghost Squad pic looks like there's a little "recreation" going on front and centre during that rescue?

The Tie next to the Y-Wing is the Tie Striker from Rogue One.


"There's a little "recreation" going on front and center"...

Not sure what it is, probably over my head .

[Callidus Thorn]

The Tie next to the Y-Wing is the Tie Striker from Rogue One.

That explains why I don't recognise it. I'll have to go poking through Wookiepedia to find it then.

"There's a little "recreation" going on front and center"...

Not sure what it is, probably over my head .

And here I thought I was aiming for the gutter

[Dark Reaper]

Gotta love these old Micro Machines playsets.

[Callidus Thorn]

Is it bad that I chuckled at seeing an A-Wing that's the same size as the Millenium Falcon?

Must be the one that took out the Executor