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mALX
post Nov 11 2011, 03:49 PM
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The good:

The wait function - better than Oblivion's
Player has vocalizations !! May make modding the voices easier !!



The bad:

How the heck do you alter the age of your character?
Voice acting - not as good as Oblivion so far


The Ugly:

Characters are butt ugly and very unrealistic and weird movements


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post Nov 11 2011, 04:01 PM
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One thing to add to the bad: Massive update for PC. I'm looking at a down load that is going to take 11-12 hours in total time. Just so I can play it. It really makes me wonder if the game was even on the disc I bought.


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post Nov 11 2011, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(King Coin @ Nov 11 2011, 10:01 AM) *

One thing to add to the bad: Massive update for PC. I'm looking at a down load that is going to take 11-12 hours in total time. Just so I can play it. It really makes me wonder if the game was even on the disc I bought.

One more reason that Steam = blech


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post Nov 11 2011, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(SubRosa @ Nov 11 2011, 09:17 AM) *

One more reason that Steam = blech

No kidding. I hope that's all I'm going to be adding to the bad pile.


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post Nov 11 2011, 04:24 PM
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Good:


The map is pretty awesome


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post Nov 11 2011, 04:25 PM
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mALX, this is a wonderful idea for a thread! I'm anxious to see all the impressions of Skyrim through the eyes of others, as I don't even consider buying games until they have been out for at least a year or more. smile.gif


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post Nov 11 2011, 05:59 PM
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Bad:

Crime ESP - commit a crime in one town and the other towns suddenly know of it? What is that all about? Also, no matter how far away you are when you steal something - if an NPC was FACING YOUR DIRECTION when it occured they can spot you? Something pretty odd about that.


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post Nov 11 2011, 06:41 PM
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I know I've already harped on this but...

Bad: Poor textures.

Not just the PC version, but I have seen mainstream reviewers (GameSpot, for instance) making quips about how the textures in this game look painted-on and not believable. Considering this is 2011, and Bethesda is using the exact same texturing solutions from their 2008 Fallout 3 engine, that is a bit of a gaping hole in their "overhauled game engine." I would have thought that rewriting the render would include improving the texture-mapping, but I guess not.

Also, yes. Day-one patches should be banned. Installation is done, but now I need to wait for that stupid 200+Mb day-one patch to download before playing. Whatever happened to to those good ol' days when devs didn't rely on patches?

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post Nov 11 2011, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(Thomas Kaira @ Nov 11 2011, 12:41 PM) *

I know I've already harped on this but...

Bad: Poor textures.

Not just the PC version, but I have seen mainstream reviewers (GameSpot, for instance) making quips about how the textures in this game look painted-on and not believable. Considering this is 2011, and Bethesda is using the exact same texturing solutions from their 2008 Fallout 3 engine, that is a bit of a gaping hole in their "overhauled game engine." I would have thought that rewriting the render would include improving the texture-mapping, but I guess not.

Also, yes. Day-one patches should be banned.



I have to agree. They look fake, and are certainly not an improvement over Oblivion's in my opinion. My son disagrees with me, he thinks they are better. - both these opinions are based on the 360 version of the game, and on an older (non-HD) TV.

I thought the gambryo was a better graphics engine - and required a LOT less of a PC to run it.

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post Nov 11 2011, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(Thomas Kaira @ Nov 11 2011, 11:41 AM) *

...but now I need to wait for that stupid 200+Mb day-one patch to download...

Only 200 MB? The steam thing is making me download nearly 6G! What the hell is going on?


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post Nov 11 2011, 07:36 PM
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The good...

My God it's beautiful...I love the countryside...Absolutely stunning...

The dungeons are soo pretty...Loot is good...People look generally better...

Smoother...Niice...Loving it so far...

Th'wife loves the Alchemy stuff...

The kids are having a blast on it...Absolute classic...

OOoooh, LOVE the dual fire and electric spelly thing...LOVE it!!...



The Bad...

Not a big fan of the swordy combat...In Oblivion, whether people thought it was realistic or not, if you hit someone, you hit them...Doesn't really feel like it connects somehow...Not pleased with that...Looking forward to it I was...

The Ugly...

I think they've completely arsed up the perk trees...They make no sense to me...Too complicated...Stick to the Fallout 3 version...Much easier to understand...

I've had several characters levitate above the scenery...

Whatever other people thought of Ease Burden spells...I liked them...And now I'm pretty incensed that they've taken them all out to stop spoil sports whining...Not a happy bunny...If they were there before, they should be there now...Retconning is sh*t...Utter sh*t...

Other than that...YAY!!... biggrin.gif ...

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post Nov 11 2011, 08:26 PM
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KC: Read this.

Steam is trying to download the entire game instead of install from the disc. If you suffer from that bug, read those instructions to initiate the disc install manually.

More from me...

Ugly: Native AA is utter trash. The performance hit it brings is prohibitive.

Good: Ignoring the aforementioned texture issues, the game does look really good.

Good: People who don't care for Steam, if you launch the game directly from the EXE, Steam will be bypassed.


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post Nov 11 2011, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Thomas Kaira @ Nov 11 2011, 01:26 PM) *

KC: Read this.

Steam is trying to download the entire game instead of install from the disc. If you suffer from that bug, read those instructions to initiate the disc install manually.

... I can't even type what I want to say. mad.gif


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post Nov 11 2011, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(Thomas Kaira @ Nov 11 2011, 02:26 PM) *


Good: People who don't care for Steam, if you launch the game directly from the EXE, Steam will be bypassed.



Can you do that initially and never have to access Steam? If so, I will unwrap my PC version right now !!! Oh TK, you ROCK if I can do this !!!


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post Nov 11 2011, 08:52 PM
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You gotta have a Steam account.

EDIT: And thank you TK for posting that.

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post Nov 11 2011, 09:18 PM
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You still need to install from Steam, but once you do, if you wish it, you never have to deal with the client again.


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post Nov 11 2011, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(Thomas Kaira @ Nov 11 2011, 03:18 PM) *

You still need to install from Steam, but once you do, if you wish it, you never have to deal with the client again.



Just install some kind of (few megabyte) update/patch type thing? Not anything huge? (like gigs) (Yes, thank you TK) !!

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post Nov 12 2011, 12:53 AM
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The Ugly: My character’s silly walk.

The Bad: Still don’t like blood on the screen.

The Awesome: Everything else.


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post Nov 12 2011, 01:06 AM
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Blood on screen? I missed that. Or haven't fought much yet...

The walk is a little goofy I admit, but it doesn't bother me anymore.


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post Nov 12 2011, 02:43 AM
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The waddle-walk? Yes it is pretty silly.

Especially when going up steep inclines and half your leg clips into the ground. Fallout 3 had better terrain tracking than that.


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