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Posted by: Kiln Oct 4 2010, 08:20 AM
So far I'm really looking forward to the new Fallout game coming out, New Vegas. It comes out later this month and I'm ecstatic about its upcoming release. I personally loved Fallout 3 with all the exploration, over the top characters, skills, and perks. I enjoyed it so much that I'll be in the store at midnight when the game is released and playing it until morning afterwards. In case you haven't heard of it there's a link to some information and also a link to some screenshots below. Looks like they've got some good voice talent as well as some very fun looking gameplay in my opinion...I'm really excited about this and if you liked Fallout 3 it looks like you'll enjoy this game as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/143/14341976/imgs_1.html
Posted by: Zalphon Oct 5 2010, 02:32 AM
I've already got classic Collector's Pre-ordered
Posted by: drakkenfan Oct 5 2010, 08:43 PM
I've also pre-ordered it. I'm really looking forward to it, since Fallout 3 was such a wonderful game.
Posted by: SubRosa Oct 5 2010, 09:20 PM
I only just started playing FO3, so I am in no hurry for New Vegas. Maybe in a few years, when ES 5 comes out, I will pick up NV. Then I can play that for two years, and afterward get ES5. Yes I know, but I am typically two years late with all the games I play these days. One handy thing about waiting is that not only does hardware improve, but there are usually wiki's chock full of info by the time I do start playing.
Posted by: ureniashtram Oct 6 2010, 07:37 AM
And a lot more cheaper, too. I got Oblivion in '08 for 1000 yen, which means... 10 bucks? Yes, that's correct.. I guess.
F03 goes for the same. Now DLCs were....
Ahh, look at me, babbling about prices and all. I'll be waiting for a long time for NV, 'cause I have my suspiscions that it wouldn't be released in Jap anytime soon. Poor me.
EDIT: BTW, is it really confirmed that Bethesda is working TES5? News are slow to reach us in Asia.
Posted by: mALX Oct 6 2010, 03:00 PM
I've already got classic Collector's Pre-ordered
Woo Hoo !!! You'll get that special armor in game !!!
EDIT: BTW, is it really confirmed that Bethesda is working TES5? News are slow to reach us in Asia.
Absolutely!!! Yes they are!! Additionally, they are supposed to release a version of Oblivion that is co-op for online gaming - it was supposed to be out last fall, but some kinks had to be worked out.
My guess, TESV will be in Skyrim.
Posted by: ureniashtram Oct 6 2010, 03:36 PM
WHAT?!??!?!?! Co-Op for online gaming?!?!?! Oh, well. No skin off my teeth.
And Skyrim, hmm. My friend actually told me that ES5 was set to Valenwood. VALENWOOD.
Never trust an elf!
Posted by: mALX Oct 6 2010, 03:42 PM
WHAT?!??!?!?! Co-Op for online gaming?!?!?! Oh, well. No skin off my teeth.
And Skyrim, hmm. My friend actually told me that ES5 was set to Valenwood. VALENWOOD.
Never trust an elf!
Skyrim is just my guess. They left two notes in Oblivion that lead you into Skyrim. They did the same thing in Morrowind, hinting at things in the Oblivion game.
They took out a trademark on the name 'Skyrim' last year - they did the same for both Morrowind and Oblivion before each of those games came out.
My Septims are on it being in Skyrim. Like I said though, I'm just guessing.
Posted by: Zalphon Oct 8 2010, 05:19 AM
Malx, I'll get my armor from Fallout 1! I need to replay Fallout 1.
Posted by: Bolzmania Oct 9 2010, 04:51 PM
I'm really hyped for this. Pre ordered!
Posted by: mALX Oct 26 2010, 05:05 PM
Well? Anyone going to give details? ARGH!!!
Posted by: Kiln Oct 27 2010, 04:18 AM
The game is amazing. I've clocked over sixty hours since I got it on launch day at midnight. My life and sleep have suffered as a result of this game's release but I'm loving it. There are glitches, which are common of games built with the engine this game uses but they are tolerable. I actually prefer this game over Fallout 3 alot even with the current problems...which I hope Obsidian will fix quicker than Bethsoft fixed theirs.
Skills are used to much more depth in this game. There are alot of instances where you can gain a special bonus or get a prize with the right skills. Combat is better, each weapon has ironsights that you can actually look down and aim and most weapons have some sort of modification to enhance its effectiveness. The game's hardcore mode is the ultimate challenge in which players must eat, sleep, and drink in order to survive...it also makes it where you can't spam stimpacks in order to survive, you can only feel the effects of one stim at a time and it heals over a period of a few seconds instead of instantly and ammunition has weight. The game is also bigger, with more places, weapons, clothing, and things to do. I've only completed one of what I believe to be four main endings. The game also details how decisions you've made impact each settlement in the game and how the faction you help take over Vegas treats the citizens that inhabit it.
The game's ending can vary greatly depending on alliances and how much you've helped each faction. Helping one faction may have damaging effects on another and doing bad things to a community leave it worse off than if you hadn't messed with it at all...destroying a faction completely has effects as well.
Once again, the game is awesome, if you liked Fallout 3 then go buy New Vegas.
Posted by: Zalphon Oct 28 2010, 02:09 AM
I've clocked over 60 ghours. The game is amazing, if you disagree then you're playing the wrong game. Fallout 3 doesn't even deserve to share the same name as New Vegas.
As previously stated glitches exist, but in my honest opinion the game is worth it's megabytes in gold.
Posted by: Kiln Oct 29 2010, 02:09 AM
I've clocked over 60 ghours. The game is amazing, if you disagree then you're playing the wrong game. Fallout 3 doesn't even deserve to share the same name as New Vegas.
As previously stated glitches exist, but in my honest opinion the game is worth it's megabytes in gold.
Agreed with above post. Go buy it now. This game is so much better than Fallout 3 its not even funny, I'm very glad Bethsoft handed New Vegas to Obsidian.
Posted by: mALX Oct 29 2010, 07:08 AM
Skills are used to much more depth in this game. There are alot of instances where you can gain a special bonus or get a prize with the right skills. Combat is better, each weapon has ironsights that you can actually look down and aim and most weapons have some sort of modification to enhance its effectiveness. The game's hardcore mode is the ultimate challenge in which players must eat, sleep, and drink in order to survive...it also makes it where you can't spam stimpacks in order to survive, you can only feel the effects of one stim at a time and it heals over a period of a few seconds instead of instantly and ammunition has weight. The game is also bigger, with more places, weapons, clothing, and things to do. I've only completed one of what I believe to be four main endings. The game also details how decisions you've made impact each settlement in the game and how the faction you help take over Vegas treats the citizens that inhabit it.
This sounds AWESOME !!!! I love the sound of that hard-core mode!!!! That eliminates one mod everyone usually gets!!!
Posted by: Kiln Oct 29 2010, 11:44 AM
This sounds AWESOME !!!! I love the sound of that hard-core mode!!!! That eliminates one mod everyone usually gets!!!
I know, I really enjoy playing in hardcore. Being on the Xbox360 I have the disadvantage of not being able to mod the game so the addition of hardcore mode was definately a plus. Saves all those guys on the PC the time on tweaking and making realism mods too...the devs heard what people wanted and thankfully worked hard to implement it.
Hats off to Obsidian and you know Bethsoft too who provided them with the means to do it.
Posted by: mALX Oct 29 2010, 12:02 PM
This sounds AWESOME !!!! I love the sound of that hard-core mode!!!! That eliminates one mod everyone usually gets!!!
I know, I really enjoy playing in hardcore. Being on the Xbox360 I have the disadvantage of not being able to mod the game so the addition of hardcore mode was definately a plus. Saves all those guys on the PC the time on tweaking and making realism mods too...the devs heard what people wanted and thankfully worked hard to implement it.
Hats off to Obsidian and you know Bethsoft too who provided them with the means to do it.
THIS !!!!
QFT
Posted by: Bolzmania Oct 29 2010, 11:30 PM
This game is just outstanding! I haven't really had much time to play it since I have alot of school work but the 20 hours I've spent on it have been alot of fun.
Posted by: Zalphon Oct 30 2010, 04:58 AM
If I didn't have school...I wouldn't have left mh ouse since I got it.
Posted by: mALX Oct 30 2010, 04:05 PM
If I didn't have school...I wouldn't have left mh ouse since I got it.
I remember when I first got into Oblivion, I nearly called in sick to work the first three days - then I started bringing it to work with me to play on the lunch hour.
Boss: You are late back from lunch again!
Me: But the Daedra were attacking...
I never got that bad over Fallout 3, but did get hooked on it. I haven't picked up New Vegas yet, but will.
Posted by: DarkZerker Oct 30 2010, 04:57 PM
I loved Fallout 3 and was a great successor to Fallout 1 & 2, which me and my girlfriend loved to play over the weekends. From my couple days playing New Vegas, I can say that this game is one of THE BEST and is the true continuation of Fallout 1 and 2.
I brought this to school after I finished my report and just played this.
Me: SUCK ON GRENADE SUPER MUTANT!
Teacher: o_0 What are you playing?
Me: ...Um....an educational simulation of a Post-Nuclear environment.
Posted by: mALX Oct 30 2010, 05:32 PM
I loved Fallout 3 and was a great successor to Fallout 1 & 2, which me and my girlfriend loved to play over the weekends. From my couple days playing New Vegas, I can say that this game is one of THE BEST and is the true continuation of Fallout 1 and 2.
I brought this to school after I finished my report and just played this.
Me: SUCK ON GRENADE SUPER MUTANT!
Teacher: o_0 What are you playing?
Me: ...Um....an educational simulation of a Post-Nuclear environment.
ROFL !!!!
Posted by: Zalphon Nov 2 2010, 03:16 AM
ROFLOL!
Posted by: bingobatrix Nov 7 2010, 09:45 PM
I'm a little intimidated by the prospect of playing another huge game. 
I used to love open world games so much when I was younger, yet now I'm afraid of them. Every time I start one, I play it for what seems like just a while, and then wham, 20 years have passed and I still have a few side quests left to do. 
I bet it's going to happen again.
Posted by: mALX Nov 13 2010, 07:23 PM
What are the glitches/bugs so far?
I remember Fallout 3 had a mesh glitch in certain places (like on that bridge you cross to get to Minefield where the raider gang is attacking and suddenly you can't see anything and get killed) - I finally started crossing the river and hoping for the best as far as rads went.
Also in Fallout 3, sometimes you'd fall through the mesh and it was like walking in tar.
Anything like that in Fallout: New Vegas?
Posted by: Kiln Nov 13 2010, 08:15 PM
There are quite a few scripting bugs in this game and similar terrain problems to FO3 but they are infrequent. Some of the quests aren't working right (also) like FO3 when it released but they've already released a few patches and are working hard on more.
Posted by: mALX Nov 13 2010, 11:50 PM
Thanks Kiln !!!
Posted by: ureniashtram Nov 14 2010, 09:01 AM
This is counted as both GLITCH AND EXPLOIT.
Go to Vikki and Vance's Casino after waiting three days outside Primm. Now, once your inside, explore the place for a while. Thugs will appear and demand your caps. Instead of handing over your money, give them a storm of bullets.
Again, go outside Primm and wait three days. After that, enter the Casino again, and it should up and running. Go to the cashier and trade your caps (or any other currency) for chips.
Now, here comes the best part.
Instead of taking your chips when you try to turn it in, she doesn't take them AND STILL GIVES YOU THE CAPS!
So, I had +200,000 caps in my purse, with a stupid grin on my face when I went out. Easy, not-so-time-consuming and makes you moronically rich.
(But to make this exploit work, complete the quest 'My Kind Of Town')
For those who have trouble getting caps to buy that Anti-Material Rifle? I recommend this one.
The only drawback of this glitch/exploit is that it breaks the purpose of some of the gameplay. It seems out of place when your lvl. 2 character is mowing down molerats with Assault Carbine, now ain't it?
Posted by: mALX Nov 14 2010, 09:13 AM
This is counted as both GLITCH AND EXPLOIT.
Go to Vikki and Vance's Casino after waiting three days outside Primm. Now, once your inside, explore the place for a while. Thugs will appear and demand your caps. Instead of handing over your money, give them a storm of bullets.
Again, go outside Primm and wait three days. After that, enter the Casino again, and it should up and running. Go to the cashier and trade your caps (or any other currency) for chips.
Now, here comes the best part.
Instead of taking your chips when you try to turn it in, she doesn't take them AND STILL GIVES YOU THE CAPS!
So, I had +200,000 caps in my purse, with a stupid grin on my face when I went out. Easy, not-so-time-consuming and makes you moronically rich.
(But to make this exploit work, complete the quest 'My Kind Of Town')
For those who have trouble getting caps to buy that Anti-Material Rifle? I recommend this one.
The only drawback of this glitch/exploit is that it breaks the purpose of some of the gameplay. It seems out of place when your lvl. 2 character is mowing down molerats with Assault Carbine, now ain't it?
WOO HOO !!!! Awesome exploit !!!
Posted by: Bolzmania Nov 15 2010, 05:27 PM
Money exploits... Brings back memories of the money glitch in Oblivion. I made a million septims on that one.
Posted by: mALX Nov 16 2010, 01:58 PM
Money exploits... Brings back memories of the money glitch in Oblivion. I made a million septims on that one.
I never used the "Doria" glitch - and by the time I tried out the "Vampire Cure Quest" they had patched Hassildor so he only gave me 5,000 Septims! ARGH!
I won't deny using the duplication glitch and an enchanted ring to make Septims when emergency Septims were needed though...
In Fallout 3 - money came too easily, and there was not enough to spend it on. I may have lived in squalor, but was always wealthy after a short time in that game - no exploits needed.
Posted by: Kiln Nov 17 2010, 11:24 AM
In Fallout 3 - money came too easily, and there was not enough to spend it on. I may have lived in squalor, but was always wealthy after a short time in that game - no exploits needed.
The difference with New Vegas is that things are much more expensive than in Fallout 3 so more money is necessary to keep yourself supplied.
Posted by: mALX Nov 17 2010, 02:17 PM
In Fallout 3 - money came too easily, and there was not enough to spend it on. I may have lived in squalor, but was always wealthy after a short time in that game - no exploits needed.
The difference with New Vegas is that things are much more expensive than in Fallout 3 so more money is necessary to keep yourself supplied.
Yeah !!! That gives a little challange, I hated being so rich that no matter what I blew it on - I always had tons more to fall back on. This will feel more real at least.
Posted by: Bolzmania Nov 18 2010, 07:29 PM
Well, if you collect the seven snowglobes and sell them to mr. House you get 14 000 caps. I've been able to get along just fine with that.
Posted by: Zalphon Nov 19 2010, 03:21 PM
You don't need exploit, get 10 luck and head to the casinos 
Posted by: ureniashtram Nov 19 2010, 04:37 PM
There's that too, yes. But they would throw you out when your 'win counts' reach a certain . . . limit.
All in all, F:NV's monetary concerns are more realistic than FO3 was. Can you believe that you can buy poorly-maintained Power Armor with +300 caps? In F:NV, you could barely buy a .308 Hunting Rifle with that!
Posted by: mALX Nov 20 2010, 06:06 PM
There's that too, yes. But they would throw you out when your 'win counts' reach a certain . . . limit.
All in all, F:NV's monetary concerns are more realistic than FO3 was. Can you believe that you can buy poorly-maintained Power Armor with +300 caps? In F:NV, you could barely buy a .308 Hunting Rifle with that!
FO3 needed some DLC that had extra stores (with unique merchandise) in it to spend in, instead of more ways to make money.
One thing I liked about Oblivion is that I could go broke frequently, and have to earn up some more Septims.
I am really looking forward to F:NV - has anyone on here had the crashes and follower bugs? If so, are you on PC/360/or PS3 ?
Posted by: ureniashtram Nov 21 2010, 08:55 PM
I'm on PS3 and yes, I experienced crashes during gameplay. Don't know why. As for follower bugs, well, haven't encountered one... yet.
But try going to The Vault. Information there are staggering in numbers, and while some jackasses with too much time on their hands messes up some threads, I recommend this site.
Here's them link, yo:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki
Posted by: mALX Nov 25 2010, 12:51 AM
I'm on PS3 and yes, I experienced crashes during gameplay. Don't know why. As for follower bugs, well, haven't encountered one... yet.
But try going to The Vault. Information there are staggering in numbers, and while some jackasses with too much time on their hands messes up some threads, I recommend this site.
Here's them link, yo:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki
Thanks, Ureniashtram !!!!! And especially for the link !!!!
Posted by: mALX Nov 27 2010, 02:04 AM
I just bought it !!! Haven't broken the seal on it yet though, lol.
Posted by: mALX Dec 20 2010, 04:02 AM
I've only gotten to play about 1 hour of it, so if anyone has any tips - I'm all ears, lol.
Posted by: mALX Dec 28 2010, 05:07 AM
Okay, has anyone else encountered the Blind Deathclaw at Harper's Shack? Holy [censored] !!!!
Posted by: Kiln Dec 28 2010, 07:36 PM
Malx,
Wait till u find the quarry, the deathclaws there are much more dangerous.
Posted by: mALX Dec 29 2010, 12:59 AM
Malx,
Wait till u find the quarry, the deathclaws there are much more dangerous.
I got it on my map, but then ran like a banshee out of there. I played 10 hours straight that night, no problems. Then tonight when I got home I downloaded the DLC and Xbox made me take an update - now it is crashing every few minutes. I deleted the DLC, it is still crashing - so it must be the update. I am going to the hard drive and delete it if I can, see if it stops crashing.
So I am stuck on top of Black Mountain, the game crashes every two seconds, and I am standing like a dummy attracting deathclaws to me. (meaning I can't fast travel out of there either. GAAAAH !!!! I wish I'd never taken that stupid update - ditto for the day I accepted that stupid "New skins/avatar" update. That kind of crap should never be forced on someone.
Posted by: Thomas Kaira Dec 29 2010, 01:20 AM
Oh dear, mALX's game has caught Bethesda-itis!
Bethesda-itis (n):
1. Spontaneous breakdown of previously stable video game engine software upon update being made. This is usually accompanied by two further updates, one of which fixing nothing and breaking even more, to actually fix the problem, at which point, ten more have appeared to replace it.
I just hope my PC is ready for it, received NV for Christmas, myself.
Posted by: mALX Dec 29 2010, 01:34 AM
Oh dear, mALX's game has caught Bethesda-itis!
Bethesda-itis (n):
1. Spontaneous breakdown of previously stable video game engine software upon update being made. This is usually accompanied by two further updates, one of which fixing nothing and breaking even more, to actually fix the problem, at which point, ten more have appeared to replace it.
I just hope my PC is ready for it, received NV for Christmas, myself.
FNV is ... okay - but doesn't measure up to Fallout 3 (for me). - it does make me want to go play another game of Fallout 3.
The 10 hours I played the other night - absolutely no problems. A week or more ago we had company over and they played it for 4-5 hours, I played for 1 hour that night - no problems. The only two things different were buying the DLC and getting the update. I already deleted the DLC (after paying for it, hope I can get it back when they fix this [censored], lol.)
Posted by: Thomas Kaira Dec 29 2010, 01:55 AM
If you're on Xbox, you won't have a problem with the DLC. You can re-download it as many times as you want after buying it.
Posted by: mALX Dec 29 2010, 02:10 AM
If you're on Xbox, you won't have a problem with the DLC. You can re-download it as many times as you want after buying it.
Oh good...that is if I can get the game running again. Is there a way to delete the update? Go to system/memory/etc. ????
Posted by: Thomas Kaira Dec 29 2010, 03:42 AM
There should be a "clear system cache" option for your hard drive in the Memory section of the dashboard.
If not, this is the old-fashioned method, so be warned that it clears EVERY patch you've downloaded AND clears all DLC from your disk.
1. Dashboard
2. Go to the System menu
3. Open the Memory menu
4. Highlight your Hard Drive, press Y
5. Press this button sequence: X, X, LB, RB, X, X.
6. Select "yes" when prompted to perform maintenance on your hard drive.
Posted by: mALX Dec 29 2010, 04:54 PM
There should be a "clear system cache" option for your hard drive in the Memory section of the dashboard.
If not, this is the old-fashioned method, so be warned that it clears EVERY patch you've downloaded AND clears all DLC from your disk.
1. Dashboard
2. Go to the System menu
3. Open the Memory menu
4. Highlight your Hard Drive, press Y
5. Press this button sequence: X, X, LB, RB, X, X.
6. Select "yes" when prompted to perform maintenance on your hard drive.
Oh no, the DLC too? I have DLC on Oblivion, Fallout 3, and the DLC for New Vegas. Or did .... GAAAAAH !!!!
Okay, I had already deleted the DLC and it was still crashing. I cleaned the cache on the 360 hard drive - (as above) next - it was definately the patch causing the problem. All crashes stopped as soon as I deleted it.
I unplugged the USB cable from my 360 because they get in a snit if you don't want them uploading BS that is breaking your game and console.
So YEAH !!! I got to play it all night again with no crashes !!! Now...I have to go to work bleary eyed.
It isn't as good as Fallout 3 - so far none of the quests I have stumbled across in my travels have worked properly - except the BOS female companion - I like her much better than the BOS girl they stuck you with in FO3. Give her a stimpak and she's indestructablek. When she runs out, she is hilarious. "Tell my parents .... "
Posted by: Cardboard Box Dec 30 2010, 11:20 AM
I don't even have any DLC for New Vegas, and the damn thing runs like a pig in the outdoors. I managed to lag my way to the gas station where Ringo was hiding, and once inside everything became playable, damn it.
And every time I exit, Core 1 on my dual-core CPU stays pinned at around 70-80% load. Just blamed on the system process, nothing underneath to explain it.
I can't wait for the updated patch. I should have known better than to get the game now when it's still in public alpha. Just what the hell did they do to the Gamebryo engine this time?
Posted by: RagingMudcrab Dec 30 2010, 12:44 PM
Pretty good game. The improvements on Fallout 3 are very welcome and the writing by the Obsidian team is enjoyable. Contrary to what most people have said, I really never get bugs or glitches. I mean, clipping and some lag at times, maybe an enemy gets stuck in the ground somewhere, but nothing major and game breaking. Not even a crash. I just assume I have a magical Xbox though.
I personally find New Vegas to be superior to Fallout 3.
Posted by: Thomas Kaira Dec 31 2010, 03:29 AM
It gives me great pleasure to announce that I have entered the Mojave Wasteland!
New Vegas is installed, configured, updated, knows how to use my hardware, and functioning beautifully. Now, where's that Agave? I need to make me some Tequila! 
Posted by: mALX Dec 31 2010, 03:53 AM
It gives me great pleasure to announce that I have entered the Mojave Wasteland!
New Vegas is installed, configured, updated, knows how to use my hardware, and functioning beautifully. Now, where's that Agave? I need to make me some Tequila!
WOO HOO !!! Now that's what I'm talking about !!!
Posted by: Thomas Kaira Dec 31 2010, 09:35 AM
New avatar, my first F:NV Char-gen face.
Not too bad, if I say so myself. 
Posted by: mALX Dec 31 2010, 04:24 PM
New avatar, my first F:NV Char-gen face.
Not too bad, if I say so myself.
Not bad at all! I let my son make mine because we had company over that wanted to play when we first opened it (and I was cooking) - the man could scare children!!! (Plus, it is a man, I wanted a female character, lol).
Posted by: Cardboard Box Jan 1 2011, 12:42 AM
808 bytes were wonky in my local files. Validating the game cache means Deputy Beagle has been freed and it's off to rustle up some more troops.
*shakes head* computers... 
Posted by: Thomas Kaira Jan 5 2011, 01:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ
Posted by: SubRosa Jan 5 2011, 01:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKIkw3LIoQ
Whoa, that is freaky! Although it would be cool if the doctor was supposed to be that way!
Posted by: Cardboard Box Jan 6 2011, 03:32 AM
I helped Ringo in the shootout with the Powder Gangers. There were two in particular: one with a cleaver and one with a baseball bat.
After sodding off and making the lives of several convicts down Primm way nasty, brutish and short, I returned to Goodsprings and noticed:
1. Mr. Cleaver had the thing jammed in his stomach, handle first.
2. Mr Batsman had the bat rammed in a rather painful location.
The life of a courier is wierd sometimes...
Posted by: Thomas Kaira Jan 9 2011, 08:14 AM
Caravan can be very confusing, so I've attempted to better organize the rules of the game. Please tell me if this helps you better understand how to play:
---Before you play...
You must own at least 30 cards to play.
A 54 card starter deck (The Tops set) can be obtained from Ringo during the tutorial.
---Building a deck
Identical cards are allowed, but they must be from different sets of cards.
IE: You can place an Ace of Spades from The Tops set and an Ace of Spades from the Gomorrah set into
your deck, but not two Aces of Spades from The Tops set.
30 cards per deck.
---The Goal
Build three lines of cards, competing to have each "caravan" contain the highest bid (numeric value)
without going under 21 or over 26. The player who sells the most caravans (see endgame rules) wins the pot.
---Opengame Rules
To start, draw 8 cards and place one numeric card or ace of any suit on the table to start your caravans.
Discarding is not allowed during the initial round.
[BUG] The player can actually make unlimited discards during the initial round because the game does
not properly block the discard function and fails to give the opponent a turn if you do.
---Midgame Rules
Once the bids are started, you can spend your turn in three ways:
1. Play one card into your caravans and draw one card
2. Discard one card from hand and draw one card
3. Disband a caravan, removing it from the table
The second card placed on the caravan sets the direction, higher means all subsequent cards must be
higher, and vice versa for lower.
You may also place any card that matches the suit of the previous card so long as it is not the same
card (IE, you can't play a 3 of spades on another 3 of spades, but can on a 10 of spades). You may
also change the direction of the caravan by doing so (IE: 9 of hearts, 7 of diamonds, 3 of spades,
5 of spades, and the descending caravan is now ascending).
Face cards are not played normally, they are instead attached to the top card in an existing caravan
(placed to the side of it) to provide a special effect. Face cards may be played on the opponent's caravans as well as your own. See the card rules for more info.
---Endgame Rules
Once a caravan has reached a value between 21 and 26, it is "sold" and can no longer be modified.
If the opposing player manages to obtain a higher numeric value on his opposite caravan than the
one you sold without going above 27, then you are outbid and the caravan sale becomes his.
The player who sold the most caravans when all caravans have been sold wins the pot.
If a caravan ties, the game continues until either player can sell it.
If either player runs out of cards, they lose automatically.
---Card rules
Numeric cards are worth exactly that number (10 of spades adds 10 to a caravan bid).
Aces are worth 1.
Attaching a Jack to a card removes that card and any other cards attached to it from the table.
Attaching a Queen to a card changes the caravan's direction and switches the current suit to
the Queen's suit.
Attaching a King to a card doubles its value. This effect stacks (two Kings triples the card, and so on).
Attaching a Joker to a card 2-10 removes all other cards of that number (and their attachments) from the table. The card the joker was attached to, however, stays put.
Attaching a joker to an Ace removes all non-face cards of the Aces suit and their attachments from the table (IE: placing it on the Ace of Spades removes all 2-10s of spades from the table), save the ace it
was played on.
Again, please let me know if this helps you understand this convoluted game a little better.
Posted by: RagingMudcrab Jan 9 2011, 08:25 AM
Thank you for the legit rules! I never know how to play that game in real life. I enjoy exploiting the bug that allows you to cheat in New Vegas, so those rules don't exactly apply when you really try to play.
Posted by: mALX Jan 9 2011, 03:27 PM
Caravan can be very confusing, so I've attempted to better organize the rules of the game. Please tell me if this helps you better understand how to play:
---Before you play...
You must own at least 30 cards to play.
A 54 card starter deck (The Tops set) can be obtained from Ringo during the tutorial.
---Building a deck
Identical cards are allowed, but they must be from different sets of cards.
IE: You can place an Ace of Spades from The Tops set and an Ace of Spades from the Gomorrah set into
your deck, but not two Aces of Spades from The Tops set.
30 cards per deck.
---The Goal
Build three lines of cards, competing to have each "caravan" contain the highest bid (numeric value)
without going under 21 or over 26. The player who sells the most caravans (see endgame rules) wins the pot.
---Opengame Rules
To start, draw 8 cards and place one numeric card or ace of any suit on the table to start your caravans.
Discarding is not allowed during the initial round.
[BUG] The player can actually make unlimited discards during the initial round because the game does
not properly block the discard function and fails to give the opponent a turn if you do.
---Midgame Rules
Once the bids are started, you can spend your turn in three ways:
1. Play one card into your caravans and draw one card
2. Discard one card from hand and draw one card
3. Disband a caravan, removing it from the table
The second card placed on the caravan sets the direction, higher means all subsequent cards must be
higher, and vice versa for lower.
You may also place any card that matches the suit of the previous card so long as it is not the same
card (IE, you can't play a 3 of spades on another 3 of spades, but can on a 10 of spades). You may
also change the direction of the caravan by doing so (IE: 9 of hearts, 7 of diamonds, 3 of spades,
5 of spades, and the descending caravan is now ascending).
Face cards are not played normally, they are instead attached to the top card in an existing caravan
(placed to the side of it) to provide a special effect. Face cards may be played on the opponent's caravans as well as your own. See the card rules for more info.
---Endgame Rules
Once a caravan has reached a value between 21 and 26, it is "sold" and can no longer be modified.
If the opposing player manages to obtain a higher numeric value on his opposite caravan than the
one you sold without going above 27, then you are outbid and the caravan sale becomes his.
The player who sold the most caravans when all caravans have been sold wins the pot.
If a caravan ties, the game continues until either player can sell it.
If either player runs out of cards, they lose automatically.
---Card rules
Numeric cards are worth exactly that number (10 of spades adds 10 to a caravan bid).
Aces are worth 1.
Attaching a Jack to a card removes that card and any other cards attached to it from the table.
Attaching a Queen to a card changes the caravan's direction and switches the current suit to
the Queen's suit.
Attaching a King to a card doubles its value. This effect stacks (two Kings triples the card, and so on).
Attaching a Joker to a card 2-10 removes all other cards of that number (and their attachments) from the table. The card the joker was attached to, however, stays put.
Attaching a joker to an Ace removes all non-face cards of the Aces suit and their attachments from the table (IE: placing it on the Ace of Spades removes all 2-10s of spades from the table), save the ace it
was played on.
Again, please let me know if this helps you understand this convoluted game a little better.
This needs to be on it's own thread and PINNED !!!! AWESOME, Thomas Kaira !!!! Thank you !!!!
Posted by: RagingMudcrab Feb 5 2011, 10:28 PM
http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/02/04/dead-money-coming-to-ps3-pc-more-content-on-the-way/ says that more DLC for New Vegas will be released in the coming months. Cool. I played Dead Money recently and it was alright. I'm hoping the next ones are a bit better though. DM was kinda tedious and the story didn't really catch me. The companions did though, so I hope we get more of that. Nice, fleshed out party members. Also, I'm super excited to find out the big secret behind http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ulysses, who I'm hoping ends up being some kind of amazing boss fight or something. I've also heard that future DLC would add an area to the game that players "likely thought they would never see", as well as "a personality from Fallout 3". Personality? Obviously we'll be seeing the return of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ1ISnkS5oY&t=1m36s.
Oh, and PC and PS3 users get Dead Money this 22nd. Have fun.
Posted by: mALX Feb 6 2011, 02:57 AM
http://bethblog.com/index.php/2011/02/04/dead-money-coming-to-ps3-pc-more-content-on-the-way/ says that more DLC for New Vegas will be released in the coming months. Cool. I played Dead Money recently and it was alright. I'm hoping the next ones are a bit better though. DM was kinda tedious and the story didn't really catch me. The companions did though, so I hope we get more of that. Nice, fleshed out party members. Also, I'm super excited to find out the big secret behind http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ulysses, who I'm hoping ends up being some kind of amazing boss fight or something. I've also heard that future DLC would add an area to the game that players "likely thought they would never see", as well as "a personality from Fallout 3". Personality? Obviously we'll be seeing the return of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ1ISnkS5oY&t=1m36s.
Oh, and PC and PS3 users get Dead Money this 22nd. Have fun.
Or Moira, lol. RagingMudcrab - I know the DLC that is out now adds 5 levels, but do you know if it "Un-ends" the game if you have finished the Main Quest Line?
Posted by: RagingMudcrab Feb 6 2011, 09:53 AM
Moira would be pretty fun to hang out with again. It's actually somewhat likely it will be her too, considering http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Wasteland_Survival_Guide_%28Fallout:_New_Vegas%29. She coulda brought it.
Sadly, Dead Money does not allow post-game playing. And http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-new-vegas-has-a-definitive-end-181927.phtml. That seems... incredibly stupid. I'd have thought Bethesda would have learned from Fallout 3. I remember people being upset about that. Did Obsidian not hear about it? Admittedly the ending for New Vegas isn't anywhere near as bad and phoned-in as FO3's, but still. I want to play after !
Posted by: mALX Feb 6 2011, 03:36 PM
Moira would be pretty fun to hang out with again. It's actually somewhat likely it will be her too, considering http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Wasteland_Survival_Guide_%28Fallout:_New_Vegas%29. She coulda brought it.
Sadly, Dead Money does not allow post-game playing. And http://www.destructoid.com/fallout-new-vegas-has-a-definitive-end-181927.phtml. That seems... incredibly stupid. I'd have thought Bethesda would have learned from Fallout 3. I remember people being upset about that. Did Obsidian not hear about it? Admittedly the ending for New Vegas isn't anywhere near as bad and phoned-in as FO3's, but still. I want to play after !
Plus was a fun idea.
I agree, it is ridiculous to end the game - maybe Bethesda will talk some sense into them, lol.
One thing I liked really well in New Vegas is !
Posted by: RagingMudcrab Feb 6 2011, 09:53 PM
Yeah, that was awesome. It made you feel like the little things you did actually had an impact on the end game.
Posted by: mALX Feb 6 2011, 10:32 PM
Yeah, that was awesome. It made you feel like the little things you did actually had an impact on the end game.
I agree - it is like you really don't know how many people are effected by your seemingly insignificant actions - and then suddenly you find out they were VERY impacted, good or bad.
In Fallout 3, they did this to a certain extent, but after New Vegas - I found myself wishing FO3 had carried it further than they did.
One thing I think was overdone in Vegas was the sheer number of enemies that attack at once, the Deathclaw Promentary is ridiculous - but IMO, Bethesda should have used SOME of that idea in Oblivion. For instance, Oblivion rarely had more than 3 enemies attack at one time. It was too easy. If you get attacked by 3 mudcrabs you don't even have to stop walking ... but if you got attacked by 20 at low levels, they could kill you.
One thing I wish they had in FO3: for people like me who open every single bathroom door to see if someone threw Jet or a skill book into a toilet - I wish they would ... just every now and then ... have a ghoul pop out and charge you making that awful noise when you open a stall door in a bathroom.
Posted by: SubRosa Feb 6 2011, 10:59 PM
One thing I wish they had in FO3: for people like me who open every single bathroom door to see if someone threw Jet or a skill book into a toilet - I wish they would ... just every now and then ... have a ghoul pop out and charge you making that awful noise when you open a stall door in a bathroom.
I am the same way. I always check every stall. After all, you never know when there might be robot in there taking a dump of spare parts! You are right though. While I have run across mole rats in the main area of the bathroom and the occasional raider, I cannot recall ever finding anyone in one of the stalls.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 7 2011, 04:21 PM
I thought the Deathclaw area was ridiculous too until I bought the .50 caliber rifle. Then it was FUN.
The reason Oblivion didn't have many enemies was because that version of Gamebryo couldn't handle very many NPCs on screen at the same time.
Posted by: mALX Feb 7 2011, 04:52 PM
I thought the Deathclaw area was ridiculous too until I bought the .50 caliber rifle. Then it was FUN.
The reason Oblivion didn't have many enemies was because that version of Gamebryo couldn't handle very many NPCs on screen at the same time.
The Anti-Material gun? That is what I made it through with (finally! And without Veronica, I don't know where she went, but it wasn't the Promentary, lol).
Posted by: mALX Feb 7 2011, 05:10 PM
One thing I wish they had in FO3: for people like me who open every single bathroom door to see if someone threw Jet or a skill book into a toilet - I wish they would ... just every now and then ... have a ghoul pop out and charge you making that awful noise when you open a stall door in a bathroom.
I am the same way. I always check every stall. After all, you never know when there might be robot in there taking a dump of spare parts! You are right though. While I have run across mole rats in the main area of the bathroom and the occasional raider, I cannot recall ever finding anyone in one of the stalls.
Me neither. One time there was more than one skeleton in a stall that gave my foot a jolt when I stepped on it - that was the only thing I ever found that knocked some health out of me and surprised inside a stall.
I wouldn't want a Reaver to pop out, just a regular ghoul, or rat, maybe even a raider - but the element of surprise would have brought about a scream, pounding heart - and made me a little more cautious when opening stall doors for a while.
Then when nothing happened and I had relaxed and begun just flipping them open again ... BAM! Have it happen again.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 8 2011, 03:16 AM
I seem to remember at least one toilet stall somewhere that has a land mine in it
Posted by: RagingMudcrab Feb 8 2011, 03:55 AM
I thought the Deathclaw area was ridiculous too until I bought the .50 caliber rifle. Then it was FUN.
Yes, the Anti-Material rifle may be the greatest weapon in the game. It's brutally destructive. Totally worth the gargantuan amount of caps to demolish those pesky Deathclaws and such.
Speaking of getting mobbed by enemies, I hate Cazadors. They're Satan's abominations.
Posted by: mALX Feb 8 2011, 04:37 AM
I thought the Deathclaw area was ridiculous too until I bought the .50 caliber rifle. Then it was FUN.
Yes, the Anti-Material rifle may be the greatest weapon in the game. It's brutally destructive. Totally worth the gargantuan amount of caps to demolish those pesky Deathclaws and such.
Speaking of getting mobbed by enemies, I hate Cazadors. They're Satan's abominations.
Pushy does an awesome job with them, but they usually attack in groups. Two killing you while you beat one can still end up with your charcter falling in slow motion while hearing that death music.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 8 2011, 06:30 PM
Speaking of getting mobbed by enemies, I hate Cazadors. They're Satan's abominations.
I hate them too. When I see them I end up pulling out a thermal lance or similar close range power weapon.
When I got my nifty-fifty I splurged and bought the incendiary rounds at 14 caps a pop. I don't remember if the game has HE rounds for the fifty but if it does I bought those too. Well worth it seeing a flaming Deathclaw running around in pain before dying a horrible death.
I had Boone with me for most of the campaign so I bought a fifty for him too. Dropped a lot of caps at the BoS HQ that day.
Posted by: mALX Feb 8 2011, 06:55 PM
Speaking of getting mobbed by enemies, I hate Cazadors. They're Satan's abominations.
I hate them too. When I see them I end up pulling out a thermal lance or similar close range power weapon.
When I got my nifty-fifty I splurged and bought the incendiary rounds at 14 caps a pop. I don't remember if the game has HE rounds for the fifty but if it does I bought those too. Well worth it seeing a flaming Deathclaw running around in pain before dying a horrible death.
I had Boone with me for most of the campaign so I bought a fifty for him too. Dropped a lot of caps at the BoS HQ that day.
What is a Thermal Lance? GAAAAH! A weapon that takes down Cazadors and I haven't heard of it? GAAAAH!
The Anti-Material rifle is the only reason I made it through the Deathclaw Promentary and "The Fort" - unfortunately, using VATS on it can be dangerous to your followers sometimes - why VATS even targets them when an enemy is right there I don't know - but when you finally get it where it is supposed to be aiming (on the enemy) and shoot - there is Veronica in flames yelling, "I'm hit!"
Posted by: King Coin Feb 8 2011, 07:11 PM
The Anti-Material rifle is the only reason I made it through the Deathclaw Promentary and "The Fort" - unfortunately, using VATS on it can be dangerous to your followers sometimes - why VATS even targets them when an enemy is right there I don't know - but when you finally get it where it is supposed to be aiming (on the enemy) and shoot - there is Veronica in flames yelling, "I'm hit!"
My bad, it's actually Thermic Lance.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Thermic_lance
Does huge damage.
The fort.... Caesar's place?
I used lol missiles from Annabelle to get inside, and then lured Caesar himself out of his giant tent (and all of his body guards) and used the Hammer of Dawn on all of them!
EDIT: By Hammer of Dawn I mean the Archimedes II super weapon.
Posted by: mALX Feb 9 2011, 03:32 PM
The Anti-Material rifle is the only reason I made it through the Deathclaw Promentary and "The Fort" - unfortunately, using VATS on it can be dangerous to your followers sometimes - why VATS even targets them when an enemy is right there I don't know - but when you finally get it where it is supposed to be aiming (on the enemy) and shoot - there is Veronica in flames yelling, "I'm hit!"
My bad, it's actually Thermic Lance.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Thermic_lance
Does huge damage.
The fort.... Caesar's place?
I used lol missiles from Annabelle to get inside, and then lured Caesar himself out of his giant tent (and all of his body guards) and used the Hammer of Dawn on all of them!
EDIT: By Hammer of Dawn I mean the Archimedes II super weapon.
I've only gotten Archimedes II to actually work once - after that it did the play through but nothing happened.
Yes, I did mean Caesar's Fortification Hill.
*
At Cottonwood Cove I was sneaking when I released the barrels and killed them all in one fell swoop - and never took a lick on their opinion of me, I was still accepted after all that - (that I really liked, it is much more realistic if you are not seen when you do something that no one knows you did it IMO).
They give you your weapons when you go down into the bunker. I destroyed the whole robot army (thereby ticking off Mr. House, whose screen instantly became red) - and then sneaked up the steps, using the Anti-Material gun to set fire to the legion inside that bunker without alerting them to my presence. That was the only way I could get access to my guns in the Fort.
Then I hid behind something and set fire to (killed) that Legion that takes your guns outside Caesar's tent.
Because the Legion wasn't alerted that I had killed their members I was able to get into the tent with all my guns as a non-hostile. I crouched as soon as I got in and burned them all (dogs included) till they just barely had any life left (because if any one of them dies the others instantly attack you).
Then I walked back to the bedroom and started opening fire on them. They all died quickly. It was hard to kill Caesar, I really liked his personality - but had to.
I had all Caesar's troops dead (except the one you can't get to); disabled all House's robots, (including those in Vegas thanks to the Robot Expert perk) - only four of them would not be disabled at the gates directly outside the Lucky 38 (all the rest of the gate robots in Vegas DID disable) - inside the Lucky 38 there were two robots that wouldn't disable and Victor won't, and Yes Man won't - but Jane did.
(over-rode their AI on House's PC) - Unhooked House from the main line, but kept him alive.
Got the Boomers and NCR to work together ...
- ALL SET FOR THE FINAL BATTLE - LEVEL 30 - AND MY GAME CRASHED, ALL SAVES CORRUPT !!!! GAAAAAAAAH !!!!!!
I could have SCREAMED - in fact, I did scream, lol. Now I have to go through all that all over again - GAAAAAH!!!!
Posted by: King Coin Feb 9 2011, 09:12 PM
I couldn't get into the bunker under the fort. not sure why. the door was just locked and I couldn't get in. So I skipped that part.
EDIT: I thought that the body guards in the fort were insanely difficult. I tried using my standard weapons against them and they just shrug it off. I don't care who you are, you don't just shrug off a .44 magnum. Light machine gun they just laugh at. I had to bust out some serious firepower to make a dent.
I stormed the fort (none of that sneaky sh!t mALX) before I bought my nifty fifty (anti-materiel rifle). Perhaps that would have helped?
I got to the inner ring of the walls and had to use Annabelle (unique rocket launcher) to survive all the troops there, and Caesar and company just ripped me apart the 1st few times I tried. I just gave up fighting them straight up and ran outside, targeted the Hammer of Dawn at my feet and RAN LIKE HELL.
Posted by: mALX Feb 10 2011, 02:43 AM
I couldn't get into the bunker under the fort. not sure why. the door was just locked and I couldn't get in. So I skipped that part.
EDIT: I thought that the body guards in the fort were insanely difficult. I tried using my standard weapons against them and they just shrug it off. I don't care who you are, you don't just shrug off a .44 magnum. Light machine gun they just laugh at. I had to bust out some serious firepower to make a dent.
I stormed the fort (none of that sneaky sh!t mALX) before I bought my nifty fifty (anti-materiel rifle). Perhaps that would have helped?
I got to the inner ring of the walls and had to use Annabelle (unique rocket launcher) to survive all the troops there, and Caesar and company just ripped me apart the 1st few times I tried. I just gave up fighting them straight up and ran outside, targeted the Hammer of Dawn at my feet and RAN LIKE HELL.
You have to have the platinum chip with you, and put it in the old-timey computer looking thing over that stairwell in order to open the door - plus either House/Yes Man/or Caesar has to send you there to start the quest or it is probably sealed.
I did use the Anti-Material gun, it was the only way to get through that place - didn't have Annabelle at the time. Those guards - and the dogs too - are tough as nails.
Oh, my character loves stealth, lol. I have a very low HP level and a few hits will take me down. I died numerous times before finally realizing no one could die till I had all their health down very low. Incindiary bullets in the AM gun - they burned without knowing they were under attack. After that, I left the tent and crept through town, shooting at anything that came up red on my compass. When I ran out of bullets I had to use Pushy, there was no sneaking then, lol.
I killed myself the one time the Achilles II worked - forgot to run like H, lol.
Oh, did you try fighting those dogs in the Arena there? Those dogs are tough as nails too !!
Posted by: King Coin Feb 10 2011, 05:39 AM
You have to have the platinum chip with you, and put it in the old-timey computer looking thing over that stairwell in order to open the door - plus either House/Yes Man/or Caesar has to send you there to start the quest or it is probably sealed.
I did use the Anti-Material gun, it was the only way to get through that place - didn't have Annabelle at the time. Those guards - and the dogs too - are tough as nails.
Oh, my character loves stealth, lol. I have a very low HP level and a few hits will take me down. I died numerous times before finally realizing no one could die till I had all their health down very low. Incindiary bullets in the AM gun - they burned without knowing they were under attack. After that, I left the tent and crept through town, shooting at anything that came up red on my compass. When I ran out of bullets I had to use Pushy, there was no sneaking then, lol.
I killed myself the one time the Achilles II worked - forgot to run like H, lol.
Oh, did you try fighting those dogs in the Arena there? Those dogs are tough as nails too !!
I had the chip, but the computer wouldn't respond when I tried to activate it. I wonder if I'm the victim of Obsidian's stellar programming...
I killed everything in the Fort when I stormed it so I probably did kill the dogs. That was a true lulz fest.
I never actually talked to Caesar. I had Boone with me and the 2 of us killed everyone there. We walked through the main gate and took out the guards there pretty fast. I blew one's head off with the .357 and turned around to get the one I knew was behind me, just to see Boone rev the ****ing chainsaw and rip him apart. The timing was perfect.
Achilles II is my favorite weapon just because it's so awesome. I have noticed that it fails to shoot pretty often when I want to use it though.
Posted by: mALX Feb 10 2011, 06:04 AM
You have to have the platinum chip with you, and put it in the old-timey computer looking thing over that stairwell in order to open the door - plus either House/Yes Man/or Caesar has to send you there to start the quest or it is probably sealed.
I did use the Anti-Material gun, it was the only way to get through that place - didn't have Annabelle at the time. Those guards - and the dogs too - are tough as nails.
Oh, my character loves stealth, lol. I have a very low HP level and a few hits will take me down. I died numerous times before finally realizing no one could die till I had all their health down very low. Incindiary bullets in the AM gun - they burned without knowing they were under attack. After that, I left the tent and crept through town, shooting at anything that came up red on my compass. When I ran out of bullets I had to use Pushy, there was no sneaking then, lol.
I killed myself the one time the Achilles II worked - forgot to run like H, lol.
Oh, did you try fighting those dogs in the Arena there? Those dogs are tough as nails too !!
I had the chip, but the computer wouldn't respond when I tried to activate it. I wonder if I'm the victim of Obsidian's stellar programming...
I killed everything in the Fort when I stormed it so I probably did kill the dogs. That was a true lulz fest.
I never actually talked to Caesar. I had Boone with me and the 2 of us killed everyone there. We walked through the main gate and took out the guards there pretty fast. I blew one's head off with the .357 and turned around to get the one I knew was behind me, just to see Boone rev the ****ing chainsaw and rip him apart. The timing was perfect.
Achilles II is my favorite weapon just because it's so awesome. I have noticed that it fails to shoot pretty often when I want to use it though.
How in the world did you get your weapons? They took mine as soon as the screen loaded for landing at the fort!!
Posted by: King Coin Feb 10 2011, 04:01 PM
We (Boone and I) killed everyone at Cottonwood Cove with scoped rifles and used the boat ourselves.
Posted by: mALX Feb 10 2011, 05:22 PM
We (Boone and I) killed everyone at Cottonwood Cove with scoped rifles and used the boat ourselves.
GAAAH!!! I couldn't get it to work without that guy in the radiation suit!! And the guards didn't nab you as soon as you landed? They were in my face, the screen locked so I couldn't back out of the conversation without flat out refusing to turn over my stuff !!! GAAAAH !!! I've missed something, grrr.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 10 2011, 07:40 PM
It might actually be Boone specific, because when you get close to the place, he initiates a dialog
"We are getting close to Caesars territory and I will shoot anyone of them I see. I hope that's not a problem."
to which I responded:
"Sounds like a solution, not a problem."
"Alright. We'll get along well"
He was using his special scoped hunting rifle at cottonwood cove and I believe I was using the unique varmint rifle. (has a night sight scope, a silencer, maybe extended mag(?) and it does extra damage)
After we cleared the place and killed the dude in charge of the boat he did some more dialog
"I'm going to the fort. You can come with me if you want. I bet it'll be a one way trip though."
Posted by: mALX Feb 11 2011, 02:10 PM
It might actually be Boone specific, because when you get close to the place, he initiates a dialog
"We are getting close to Caesars territory and I will shoot anyone of them I see. I hope that's not a problem."
to which I responded:
"Sounds like a solution, not a problem."
"Alright. We'll get along well"
He was using his special scoped hunting rifle at cottonwood cove and I believe I was using the unique varmint rifle. (has a night sight scope, a silencer, maybe extended mag(?) and it does extra damage)
After we cleared the place and killed the dude in charge of the boat he did some more dialog
"I'm going to the fort. You can come with me if you want. I bet it'll be a one way trip though."
Were you actually able to see yourself going down the river in the boat or did it still do the loading screen? When you landed, did you have to walk to the gate or were you there in the gate-guard's faces?
I had Veronica
Posted by: King Coin Feb 11 2011, 03:36 PM
I had Veronica
it did a loading screen when we went down the river. I do not remember if I had to talk to anyone when I got there or not. There might have been some forced dialog but if there was I kept my weapons.
Posted by: mALX Feb 12 2011, 02:57 PM
I had Veronica
it did a loading screen when we went down the river. I do not remember if I had to talk to anyone when I got there or not. There might have been some forced dialog but if there was I kept my weapons.
I may have to try getting Boone. I remember I didn't want to make a fuss at the gate because I didn't want to take on the whole fort at once, lol.
Oh, and if you fight in the Arena at the fort, they take away all your weapons (even if you have a good machete) and give you a crappy machete. Those dogs are some tough mutts, genetically altered into super-dogs. I died several times in there - but I was trying to gain a good reputation with the Legion so I could get my guns back. Turns out the only way I could get them back was to get the quest that took me down into the bunker - from any one of the people (House, Yes Man, or Caesar). (so I killed myself all those times in the Arena for nothing, lol)
Posted by: King Coin Feb 12 2011, 04:26 PM
I may have to try getting Boone. I remember I didn't want to make a fuss at the gate because I didn't want to take on the whole fort at once, lol.
Oh, and if you fight in the Arena at the fort, they take away all your weapons (even if you have a good machete) and give you a crappy machete. Those dogs are some tough mutts, genetically altered into super-dogs. I died several times in there - but I was trying to gain a good reputation with the Legion so I could get my guns back. Turns out the only way I could get them back was to get the quest that took me down into the bunker - from any one of the people (House, Yes Man, or Caesar). (so I killed myself all those times in the Arena for nothing, lol)
I got that bunker quest from Yes Man so why couldn't I get in there? *frustration*
The door was just locked and the Yes Man computer terminal wouldn't respond.
Posted by: mALX Feb 12 2011, 04:44 PM
I may have to try getting Boone. I remember I didn't want to make a fuss at the gate because I didn't want to take on the whole fort at once, lol.
Oh, and if you fight in the Arena at the fort, they take away all your weapons (even if you have a good machete) and give you a crappy machete. Those dogs are some tough mutts, genetically altered into super-dogs. I died several times in there - but I was trying to gain a good reputation with the Legion so I could get my guns back. Turns out the only way I could get them back was to get the quest that took me down into the bunker - from any one of the people (House, Yes Man, or Caesar). (so I killed myself all those times in the Arena for nothing, lol)
I got that bunker quest from Yes Man so why couldn't I get in there? *frustration*
The door was just locked and the Yes Man computer terminal wouldn't respond.
If it happens again, check your inventory for the platinum chip. They instantly remove it from you when you land at the fort.
Had Yes Man plugged himself into House's terminal at the Lucky 38? I didn't un-hook House from it till after I went down in the bunker. He got on the screen and told me to put the upgrades into the robot army - instead I destroyed the whole army of robots. When I came out of there, House's monitor was RED, lol.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 12 2011, 04:48 PM
I had the chip because I had just taken it off of Caesar's corpse.
Yes Man was installed into the computer.
Posted by: mALX Feb 12 2011, 05:27 PM
I had the chip because I had just taken it off of Caesar's corpse.
Yes Man was installed into the computer.
I think Yes Man gives you the quest after he takes you into the basement of the Lucky 38 and shows you his (formerly House's) plan - had he done that yet?
Not sure if that "Wildcard" quest he gives you with all the factions you are supposed to check out has one that would eliminate that step
- or - that group of quests cannot be completed without failing some of them (based on your choices) - you may possibly have failed a quest that had to do with that bunker. - you can find out: go to your journal for quests and read the screen on the right for any of those main questline quests given by House, Yes Man, or Caesar - look for the place that says to access the bunker and either upgrade or destroy the robot army. If it is in the failed or completed list - something you did/choice you made ended that option for you.
If neither House or Yes Man came up on the screen to access the bunker, something possibly was done out of order, closing off that opportunity.
As far as equipment goes, you didn't miss much - a laser rifle and some ammo from the robots that attack you, I think a couple pulse grenades or mines. It is highly radiated, even with the radiation suit I got sick and had to leave, go to Goodsprings for a cure, come back. (ran out of Rad-X and Rad-Away)
I trapped most of the robots in one room and then threw in a pulse grenade - done. To destroy the robot army you have to blow up generators.
When I arrived at the fort I had not made up my mind on factions - just didn't like the idea of the Mohave or Vegas being run by robots. They give me the creeps.
House's screen turned red, so I knew he was going to be my enemy when I returned. I had to do something about that - so I used a stealth boy and sneaked up on all the robot gate guards and disabled them. The four guarding the inside gates in the area around the Lucky 38 cannot be dismantled - but after I did the next steps I walked out and they were not hostile to me at all.
Inside the Lucky 38 I sneaked up and dismantled all the robots (including Jane, but Victor could not be disabled) - then used that computer terminal at the window behind House's monitor to cancel the guard robots command to attack me.
After you open up the secret entrance to House's chamber there are two more guard robots that can't be dismantled and remain hostile - Victor was still showing red.
I was not able to go back into the 38 to see if they would attack me later, my game crashed and all the saves became corrupt. Victor is supposed to hunt you down like a dog, and I was looking forward to seeing him in a busted heap.
As far as I know, I still would have gotten my nice suite at the Lucky 38 - I will find out when I reach that stage again because I plan to re-enact and see what would have happened.
Have you done the final battle at the dam yet? My game crashed before I could, and boy was I ticked !!!
Posted by: King Coin Feb 12 2011, 05:55 PM
Yep I did, I was pissed that I didn't see the Boomer's bombing run. They were supposed to show up, but I never saw it.
Posted by: mALX Feb 12 2011, 06:38 PM
Yep I did, I was pissed that I didn't see the Boomer's bombing run. They were supposed to show up, but I never saw it.
Oh that is right! You did tell me that! Someone else said they showed up when the battle was over - I may get on YouTube if I get time and see if there are any vids showing what they are SUPPOSED to do, lol.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 12 2011, 06:48 PM
I also had the BoS along and they were not bosses like I hoped. They dropped faster than the Rangers did, and they had POWER ARMOR. wtf is up with that?
Posted by: mALX Feb 12 2011, 07:08 PM
I also had the BoS along and they were not bosses like I hoped. They dropped faster than the Rangers did, and they had POWER ARMOR. wtf is up with that?
How strange is that? Maybe because most of them are skilled only in unarmed? I gave Veronica some awesome guns and have yet to see her use any one of them. (some energy, some not)
I am glad you said something about that, it makes me realize that as allies they are ... somewhat over-rated. Not that I will pop in there and blow them away, though. I have yet to kill a BOS in either Fallout game I've played.
Do you have any idea how we are supposed to contact the Remnants of the Enclave? I have found their bunker, but can't get in.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 13 2011, 02:23 AM
I also had the BoS along and they were not bosses like I hoped. They dropped faster than the Rangers did, and they had POWER ARMOR. wtf is up with that?
How strange is that? Maybe because most of them are skilled only in unarmed? I gave Veronica some awesome guns and have yet to see her use any one of them. (some energy, some not)
I am glad you said something about that, it makes me realize that as allies they are ... somewhat over-rated. Not that I will pop in there and blow them away, though. I have yet to kill a BOS in either Fallout game I've played.
Do you have any idea how we are supposed to contact the Remnants of the Enclave? I have found their bunker, but can't get in.
I've never found it. I was not aware they were in the game. I did the endgame because I was getting really poor. I don't know how to make caps in that game. I first made tons by playing blackjack but then a game update came out and after that I literally lost every round. The computer will just keep drawing card after card after card and get like 20 or 21 every time. pissed me off so much. I'd get to 17 or so with my cards and then either stay and get beat by the computer or draw another and go over 21. EVERY TIME.
Posted by: ureniashtram Feb 13 2011, 02:05 PM
You need to do a lengthy quest given to you by Arcade Gannon. Its too long for me to write here (REALLY REALLY LONG) so I recommend to check out the Vault.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/For_Auld_Lang_Syne
Posted by: mALX Feb 14 2011, 04:51 PM
You need to do a lengthy quest given to you by Arcade Gannon. Its too long for me to write here (REALLY REALLY LONG) so I recommend to check out the Vault.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/For_Auld_Lang_Syne
Thanks, Ureniashtram !! I tried to get that Arcade Gannon to even talk to me - he was rude as H - I had Veronica as a follower and did not want to give her up for him, so couldn't get his quest (and didn't know it would lead me to the remnants, either - only that you would get a special "family remnant power armor" as a quest reward - for some reason my brain didn't put the two together, ROFL!!).
Posted by: King Coin Feb 15 2011, 07:53 PM
You need to do a lengthy quest given to you by Arcade Gannon. Its too long for me to write here (REALLY REALLY LONG) so I recommend to check out the Vault.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/For_Auld_Lang_Syne
Thanks, Ureniashtram !! I tried to get that Arcade Gannon to even talk to me - he was rude as H - I had Veronica as a follower and did not want to give her up for him, so couldn't get his quest (and didn't know it would lead me to the remnants, either - only that you would get a special "family remnant power armor" as a quest reward - for some reason my brain didn't put the two together, ROFL!!).
Same, I had Boone and he was a really good ally paired with ED-E so I wasn't interested in recruiting anybody else.
Posted by: mALX Feb 15 2011, 08:11 PM
You need to do a lengthy quest given to you by Arcade Gannon. Its too long for me to write here (REALLY REALLY LONG) so I recommend to check out the Vault.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/For_Auld_Lang_Syne
Thanks, Ureniashtram !! I tried to get that Arcade Gannon to even talk to me - he was rude as H - I had Veronica as a follower and did not want to give her up for him, so couldn't get his quest (and didn't know it would lead me to the remnants, either - only that you would get a special "family remnant power armor" as a quest reward - for some reason my brain didn't put the two together, ROFL!!).
Same, I had Boone and he was a really good ally paired with ED-E so I wasn't interested in recruiting anybody else.
That Arcade was really rude, obnoxious - and not a great fighter from what I hear. Veronica is tough as nails in the early levels. At level 30 she kind of loses it, and you become ready to get rid of her and get Boone. I had ED-E last game, I am going after him in this one too - although he makes stealth hard with all his racket - I kind of like his victory music and battle music.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 15 2011, 08:16 PM
That Arcade was really rude, obnoxious - and not a great fighter from what I hear. Veronica is tough as nails in the early levels. At level 30 she kind of loses it, and you become ready to get rid of her and get Boone. I had ED-E last game, I am going after him in this one too - although he makes stealth hard with all his racket - I kind of like his victory music and battle music.
ED-E is my favorite really. He's not as strong as the dog is but he highlights every enemy near you and the music was a great touch. When I first got him I thought my game was screwed up, then realized it was ED-E playing the music.
Boone is great with a rifle and melee weapons. I gave him the chainsaw you get from Motor-runner and bought him a .50 cal when I got one.
Posted by: mALX Feb 15 2011, 08:52 PM
That Arcade was really rude, obnoxious - and not a great fighter from what I hear. Veronica is tough as nails in the early levels. At level 30 she kind of loses it, and you become ready to get rid of her and get Boone. I had ED-E last game, I am going after him in this one too - although he makes stealth hard with all his racket - I kind of like his victory music and battle music.
ED-E is my favorite really. He's not as strong as the dog is but he highlights every enemy near you and the music was a great touch. When I first got him I thought my game was screwed up, then realized it was ED-E playing the music.
Boone is great with a rifle and melee weapons. I gave him the chainsaw you get from Motor-runner and bought him a .50 cal when I got one.
Veronica LOVES the chainsaw, and it is hilarious to watch her with it. She hollers something when she uses it, I can't remember what since I haven't gotten that in this game yet. Whatever you do, don't give her frag grenades. She uses them for everything - she will spot an enemy and (even though you have told her NOT to engage till you do) will yell out at the top of her lungs "WATCH OUT!" - and lob a grenade. Makes it hard to be stealthy.
Veronica has an awesome punch without any weapons in the low levels, she has some fisto-type unarmed device.
The only thing with Veronica - I haven't found any way to get her to use a gun. There must be some way, I just haven't figured it out yet. I have given her the Tessla Cannon, a (game-modded) hunting rifle, a sniper rifle, shotguns, laser rifles, plasma rifles, etc. - she won't use them no matter what - even in the Deathclaw Promentary she is out there trying to duke it out with Deathclaws (and doing remarkably well, I might add - but she can only take just so many hits).
Posted by: King Coin Feb 15 2011, 09:21 PM
Veronica LOVES the chainsaw, and it is hilarious to watch her with it. She hollers something when she uses it, I can't remember what since I haven't gotten that in this game yet. Whatever you do, don't give her frag grenades. She uses them for everything - she will spot an enemy and (even though you have told her NOT to engage till you do) will yell out at the top of her lungs "WATCH OUT!" - and lob a grenade. Makes it hard to be stealthy.
Veronica has an awesome punch without any weapons in the low levels, she has some fisto-type unarmed device.
The only thing with Veronica - I haven't found any way to get her to use a gun. There must be some way, I just haven't figured it out yet. I have given her the Tessla Cannon, a (game-modded) hunting rifle, a sniper rifle, shotguns, laser rifles, plasma rifles, etc. - she won't use them no matter what - even in the Deathclaw Promentary she is out there trying to duke it out with Deathclaws (and doing remarkably well, I might add - but she can only take just so many hits).
I give Boone the chainsaw and another melee weapon. maybe the shish kabob? I don't remember, it was sword or something that did lots of damage, but he always switched between the 2 seemingly at random. one fight will be the the saw, the next with the other weapon. maybe they were degrading and he was switching to the current best weapon? idk.
Posted by: mALX Feb 15 2011, 11:12 PM
Veronica LOVES the chainsaw, and it is hilarious to watch her with it. She hollers something when she uses it, I can't remember what since I haven't gotten that in this game yet. Whatever you do, don't give her frag grenades. She uses them for everything - she will spot an enemy and (even though you have told her NOT to engage till you do) will yell out at the top of her lungs "WATCH OUT!" - and lob a grenade. Makes it hard to be stealthy.
Veronica has an awesome punch without any weapons in the low levels, she has some fisto-type unarmed device.
The only thing with Veronica - I haven't found any way to get her to use a gun. There must be some way, I just haven't figured it out yet. I have given her the Tessla Cannon, a (game-modded) hunting rifle, a sniper rifle, shotguns, laser rifles, plasma rifles, etc. - she won't use them no matter what - even in the Deathclaw Promentary she is out there trying to duke it out with Deathclaws (and doing remarkably well, I might add - but she can only take just so many hits).
I give Boone the chainsaw and another melee weapon. maybe the shish kabob? I don't remember, it was sword or something that did lots of damage, but he always switched between the 2 seemingly at random. one fight will be the the saw, the next with the other weapon. maybe they were degrading and he was switching to the current best weapon? idk.
I've never seen Veronica's armor or weapons I give her degrade - but if they are in broke condition she never fixes them, even if you give her the piece to do it. I have to take it from her, fix it, then give it back.
They must all be high melee characters, I know Veronica will take melee or unarmed weapons over anything. Armor: she will put on whatever you give her that has a higher DT.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 16 2011, 12:20 AM
They must all be high melee characters, I know Veronica will take melee or unarmed weapons over anything. Armor: she will put on whatever you give her that has a higher DT.
Boone only uses melee at close range, he'll use a rifle normally. But yeah I checked the wiki and he has very high melee rating.
It's always cool when you equip BoS armor on you companions.
Posted by: mALX Feb 16 2011, 04:58 AM
They must all be high melee characters, I know Veronica will take melee or unarmed weapons over anything. Armor: she will put on whatever you give her that has a higher DT.
Boone only uses melee at close range, he'll use a rifle normally. But yeah I checked the wiki and he has very high melee rating.
It's always cool when you equip BoS armor on you companions.
Wow, does Boone let you put BOS armor on him? Veronica will NOT let you put NCR, Legion, etc - any other faction's armor on her !!
Posted by: King Coin Feb 16 2011, 05:08 AM
You are probably right, I bet I had to buy him non-affiliated power armor.
Posted by: mALX Feb 18 2011, 06:34 AM
You are probably right, I bet I had to buy him non-affiliated power armor.
It really bothers me when I just want Veronica to carry some armor - and she dumps it on the ground saying she can't wear that - she doesn't have to, I just didn't have the weight allowance left to carry it, lol.
Still though, I think it is kind of cool that they have their loyalties.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 18 2011, 08:20 PM
I must have bought him some T-45d because I think the set the BoS gives you is affiliated. I obviously bought T-51b for myself. I like the look of the 45d better than the 51b but I want the best for me lol.
Posted by: mALX Feb 18 2011, 09:41 PM
I must have bought him some T-45d because I think the set the BoS gives you is affiliated. I obviously bought T-51b for myself. I like the look of the 45d better than the 51b but I want the best for me lol.
There is also some remnant power armor - one of the guys atop the Deathclaw Promentary is all in remnant armor I think - (they never showed up for me yet, only their weapons both games).
Posted by: King Coin Feb 18 2011, 09:46 PM
I never found it either. If I did, I'd give that set to Boone if he'd wear it. I want the strength bonus the T51b gives so I can use heavy weapons better
Posted by: mALX Feb 18 2011, 09:55 PM
I never found it either. If I did, I'd give that set to Boone if he'd wear it. I want the strength bonus the T51b gives so I can use heavy weapons better
I went to that med clinic and had strength implant put in - my strength is 8 now. That made a much bigger difference than I ever thought it would, really surprising how much of a difference it has made in my character's toughness.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 19 2011, 02:50 AM
I totally forgot about that clinic and never bought anything. not that I had the caps for it.
Posted by: mALX Feb 19 2011, 02:58 AM
I totally forgot about that clinic and never bought anything. not that I had the caps for it.
Most are 4000 caps, but two of them are 8000 caps.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 19 2011, 03:07 AM
I was basically broke after I bought the .50 cal rifles and power armor. How did you make money in New Vegas?
Posted by: mALX Feb 19 2011, 04:23 AM
I was basically broke after I bought the .50 cal rifles and power armor. How did you make money in New Vegas?
I loot every place I find, repair and then sell anything I can't use. Some places give you awesome amts of caps - there is one cave that pays better than the Sunshine Sasperilla headquarters. Black Mountain has a good haul in that upside down satelite dish/tent thing.
I even sell off any excess ammo for guns I do not have - leaving myself only 25 @ for emergencies just in case I get into a battle and have to pick up a gun and start firing.
Last game my repair was really high so I didn't have to pay anyone except for special weapons. This game it is only medium, that is hurting me a little. Also, last game my endurance was lower so I couldn't get as many implants - I planned ahead this game and raised it early on (wasting perks on bringing my special up).
I got the Black Widow Perk this game for the first time in any Fallout game and have yet to see ANY time it came into use !!! What a waste THAT was !!!
Also, I drank every Sunset Sasperilla I got my hands on, it does add up too, believe it or not, lol. Both games I had every place on the map (just about) explored and looted.
Last game I did a lot of stealing, but this game I am not doing much of that at all - only skill books and snow globes this game.
Also, some unique weapons I didn't want I sold - they are high dollar items.
Oh say, when you add that DLC on and it gives you five extra levels - does it add perks (every other level) or just levels? Anyone know?
Posted by: King Coin Feb 19 2011, 05:40 AM
I ended up using just about everything I found. High value weapons were used to fix or replace the one I had.
I loot like crazy and sell anything I don't need and I still end up poor as H. Do I have an active effect called "hole in pocket'?
Posted by: mALX Feb 19 2011, 11:06 AM
I ended up using just about everything I found. High value weapons were used to fix or replace the one I had.
I loot like crazy and sell anything I don't need and I still end up poor as H. Do I have an active effect called "hole in pocket'?
ROFL !!! Well, if you are going to be broke anyway you may as well just run straight over there after selling, lol.
That is one thing I like so much about this game, they gave us some things to spend on - in Fallout 3 there was nothing to spend on, my caps amounts were always ridiculously high.
Oh, here is something I did in both Fallout 3 and New Vegas - wear items that increase your barter skill whenever selling or paying for repairs - like a "wandering trader hat" It adds +5 to your trading skills: They pay you + 10% higher for items you are selling/charge 10 % less for items they are selling - every little bit adds up.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 20 2011, 06:44 AM
I did that for a little bit... then I would find a shiny new gun or something worth a lot of caps to sell and drop that. Or sometimes I'd just sell it after I was done selling everything else too.
Posted by: mALX Feb 20 2011, 01:48 PM
I did that for a little bit... then I would find a shiny new gun or something worth a lot of caps to sell and drop that. Or sometimes I'd just sell it after I was done selling everything else too.
It is only one pound, I carry it with me everywhere - there aren't many of them in the game. My problem is forgetting to put it on sometimes when I go to sell. If it is indoors I don't mind reloading the autosave and redoing the whole sale - but if I've gone to that robot I just take the loss.
You can never get them all (unless your endurance is at 10 - and who would do that) - so you have to choose which you want to do before starting. One of them ups your endurance by 1. I always do strength and the two great additions, then luck. I had one left and tried to raise endurance - it should have allowed me to get one more, right? Didn't work. They still wouldn't let me - so I reloaded the autosave at the door and upped agility - what a huge difference that agility boost makes in wandering the Mohave. My girl is faster and can jump higher.
The thing is, I can't stand the idea of wasting my SPECIAL all on endurance, especially when intelligence gives you extra skill points to distribute; without strength you are nothing against the enemies, etc. - So I can only end up with about 5 of the implants. (2 at 8,000 and 3 at 4,000 - that is under 30,000. Just in case I can get more I try to walk in the clinic with about 35,000).
Also - (something that really ticked me off) - wearing clothing that ups your endurance has no effect, the clinic can see through the ploy - I don't see why that wouldn't work.
I always wondered if you could go back to the Doctor that saved you's and re-do your SPECIAL, boost up endurance - get your implants - then go back to the docs house and redo them again putting them all where you wanted them again.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 22 2011, 06:37 PM
I try to walk in the clinic with about 35,000.
LOL I don't think I've seen more than 10 grand at once in that game.
Posted by: mALX Feb 22 2011, 09:07 PM
I try to walk in the clinic with about 35,000.
LOL I don't think I've seen more than 10 grand at once in that game.
I have never had over that amount. Some people made caps gambling before they patched the game - can't now. I haven't gambled yet - or played Caravan - but TK posted instructions on here for playing Caravan that sounded like a sure thing to win caps - I haven't tried it yet.
Posted by: Kiln Feb 23 2011, 12:13 AM
I've got more money than the game can count, it can only count to like a million caps and then after that it just adds a plus sign.
I got it all by exploiting the money glitch in Primm before it was patched.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 23 2011, 12:35 AM
I have never had over that amount. Some people made caps gambling before they patched the game - can't now. I haven't gambled yet - or played Caravan - but TK posted instructions on here for playing Caravan that sounded like a sure thing to win caps - I haven't tried it yet.
I used to make money gambling but yeah it's fail now. I was so mad after that patch. I'm not going to learn how to play caravan though. when they first explained how to play it I was just lol wat.
Posted by: mALX Feb 23 2011, 01:02 AM
I have never had over that amount. Some people made caps gambling before they patched the game - can't now. I haven't gambled yet - or played Caravan - but TK posted instructions on here for playing Caravan that sounded like a sure thing to win caps - I haven't tried it yet.
I used to make money gambling but yeah it's fail now. I was so mad after that patch. I'm not going to learn how to play caravan though. when they first explained how to play it I was just lol wat.
Me too, but TK has a sure-fire way to win it (although I haven't tried it so can't vouch yet) - I think it is on page one of this very thread.
Posted by: Thomas Kaira Feb 23 2011, 01:14 AM
Actually, if you really do want to exploit caravan to its fullest, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AorCJkgie_s
That is, if you really don't mind being a cheap [blamo!].
Posted by: King Coin Feb 23 2011, 01:37 AM
Actually, if you really do want to exploit caravan to its fullest, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AorCJkgie_s
That is, if you really don't mind being a cheap [blamo!].
WOOOOOW
they should just explain it like that in the game.
Posted by: mALX Feb 23 2011, 02:10 AM
Actually, if you really do want to exploit caravan to its fullest, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AorCJkgie_s
That is, if you really don't mind being a cheap [blamo!].
Wow, great vid !!! I have not played a single game yet, or gambled in any casino - not really sure why, lol.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 23 2011, 02:14 AM
Wow, great vid !!! I have not played a single game yet, or gambled in any casino - not really sure why, lol.
skip the casino you cannot win a single hand at anything anymore
Posted by: mALX Feb 23 2011, 04:40 AM
Wow, great vid !!! I have not played a single game yet, or gambled in any casino - not really sure why, lol.
skip the casino you cannot win a single hand at anything anymore
I read that somewhere yesterday when I was looking up something on the WIKI. I wonder if the patch fixed the New Vegas Computer Hacking Glitch.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 23 2011, 04:38 PM
since Caravan is so easy to win I might just rely on that for caps whenever I play that buggy pos again.
Posted by: mALX Feb 23 2011, 04:47 PM
since Caravan is so easy to win I might just rely on that for caps whenever I play that buggy pos again.
Yes, I am making my second attempt to see if the game holds up long enough for me to see the final battle.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 23 2011, 05:02 PM
I wish you luck. I was so disappointed by how buggy the game was in general that it'll be a while before I play again. The game really is good, but it needs some serious fixing and cleaning.
Posted by: mALX Feb 23 2011, 06:13 PM
I wish you luck. I was so disappointed by how buggy the game was in general that it'll be a while before I play again. The game really is good, but it needs some serious fixing and cleaning.
You aren't kidding. I haven't been able to load the DLC once yet that it didn't crash the game.
Posted by: King Coin Feb 23 2011, 07:18 PM
I wish you luck. I was so disappointed by how buggy the game was in general that it'll be a while before I play again. The game really is good, but it needs some serious fixing and cleaning.
You aren't kidding. I haven't been able to load the DLC once yet that it didn't crash the game.
That is totally unacceptable. Have you complained to Obsidian yet?
Posted by: mALX Feb 23 2011, 08:00 PM
I wish you luck. I was so disappointed by how buggy the game was in general that it'll be a while before I play again. The game really is good, but it needs some serious fixing and cleaning.
You aren't kidding. I haven't been able to load the DLC once yet that it didn't crash the game.
That is totally unacceptable. Have you complained to Obsidian yet?
I have not, I think I've only complained on here and on the BGSF. (and to anyone who would listen at work).
Posted by: King Coin Feb 23 2011, 09:05 PM
I have not, I think I've only complained on here and on the BGSF. (and to anyone who would listen at work).
get your game completely updated then try re-downloading the DLC. You need to redownload it just in case the original DLC did not download correctly. If that does not work, you need to contact Obsidian.
Posted by: mALX Feb 23 2011, 11:17 PM
I have not, I think I've only complained on here and on the BGSF. (and to anyone who would listen at work).
get your game completely updated then try re-downloading the DLC. You need to redownload it just in case the original DLC did not download correctly. If that does not work, you need to contact Obsidian.
Okay, I did redownload it once, but installed the patch afterward - that may have been the mess up. I'll try reversing the order and downloading it again - after I've been given a chance to whip the Legate's butt !!!
Does anyone know if the DLC gives you the opportunity to choose any more perks than the vanilla game's 15 perks?
Posted by: King Coin Feb 26 2011, 12:25 AM
get it working yet?
Posted by: mALX Feb 27 2011, 03:17 PM
get it working yet?
I haven't even had time to turn on the 360 this past week. Took off work to be with my dog after her surgery and had a busier week than I would have working, lol.
Posted by: Kiln Feb 28 2011, 02:23 AM
If you're on the 360 and you have Dead Money you'll have to have the latest patch installed to play the game or it will freeze every time.
Posted by: mALX Feb 28 2011, 04:32 AM
If you're on the 360 and you have Dead Money you'll have to have the latest patch installed to play the game or it will freeze every time.
Yes, I wonder if it matters if I download the patch after the DLC, is there a specific order it should be downloaded? I wouldn't think so since the patch was made to FIX the problems of the DLC - but my game crashes totally every time I DL the patch OR the DLC OR both - and then it crashed and corrupted all the save files (at F'N LEVEL 30 !!!! GAAAAAAH !!!! ) When I did the "Come Fly With Me" quest. I very nearly died of a heart attack, but somehow pulled it together and started another game. I am now at level 30 and will FREAK OUT if it corrupts my save files again !!!!
Posted by: Kiln Feb 28 2011, 10:56 AM
Are you trying to DL Dead Money from the marketplace or the main screen of the game? I think you should delete the Dead Money DLC if it is partially installed and re download it from the marketplace (not the main menu of NV), then clear the HD cache and start the game. It should prompt you to download the patch and it should work fine...at least it did for me on the first try.
There shouldn't be any issues since you're on a console there obviously can't be any compatibility issues.
The only thing I know for a fact is that if you've got Dead Money installed on the HD and you decline to install the patch when it pops up the game will freeze every time.
Good luck, let us know what happens.
Posted by: mALX Feb 28 2011, 01:55 PM
Are you trying to DL Dead Money from the marketplace or the main screen of the game? I think you should delete the Dead Money DLC if it is partially installed and re download it from the marketplace (not the main menu of NV), then clear the HD cache and start the game. It should prompt you to download the patch and it should work fine...at least it did for me on the first try.
There shouldn't be any issues since you're on a console there obviously can't be any compatibility issues.
The only thing I know for a fact is that if you've got Dead Money installed on the HD and you decline to install the patch when it pops up the game will freeze every time.
Good luck, let us know what happens.
Yeah, I cleaned the hard drive cache, the game cache, redownloaded both the DLC and the patch - still crashed the game. I'm not taking another chance on losing a level 30 character - I'd like to play this one to the end, start another game and then fiddle with the DLC and patch on the new game so I don't lose a whole played game again.
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