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[monkeyemoness]

Loremaster Lawrence Schick is moving to Ireland and thus leaving the ESO Team

Gonna miss him tbh, and whoever replaces him has some big shoes to fill. Or else.



EDIT: Oh, his successor wrote a good chunk of the Clockwork City! Okay, I'm not worried at all.

This post has been edited by monkeyemoness: Feb 7 2019, 05:54 AM

[mALX]

Loremaster Lawrence Schick is moving to Ireland and thus leaving the ESO Team

Gonna miss him tbh, and whoever replaces him has some big shoes to fill. Or else.



EDIT: Oh, his successor wrote a good chunk of the Clockwork City! Okay, I'm not worried at all.

Aw

Reading this made me think of Michael Kirkbride; and how long it has been since we have heard his spouting of Lore. He has written something about the 5th Era; which makes me wonder if that will be the timing of the next Elder Scrolls game! Here is an excerpt from that story:


https://www.c0da.es/t/loveletter



Oh how I miss when these Devs used to get into big Lore discussions with their fans!

We love you Michael Kirkbride and Lawrence Schick!






This post has been edited by mALX: Feb 8 2019, 06:00 AM

[monkeyemoness]

We love you Michael Kirkbride

I don't!

To deny that he made some amazing contributions to TES lore and set it apart from every cookie-cutter fantasy setting out there (or at the very least, uplifted it from its DnD homebrew origins), would be very stupid. He also stuck adamantly to the "open source" aspect of TES lore, as Schick did too, which I also appreciate and love.

But on the other hand his writing eventually became more deranged and nonsensical, his woman characters come in only two settings, those being "Mom" or "Whore", or both at once (his take on Almalexia), he has a creepy fixation on "intersex=divine", he LOVES to use sexual violence in his writing, and his interactions with the fandom can easily be described as abusive and monstrous (but this isn't the place for that discussion).

A while back he decided to bow out of the TES fandom, to everyone's benefit. Zenimax/Bethesda, to their credit, DO incorporate some of his better work done outside of their, hm, supervision, so at least there's that. (C0DA was actually referenced in Morrowind and the Clockwork City, actually)

This post has been edited by monkeyemoness: Feb 8 2019, 11:52 PM

[mALX]

We love you Michael Kirkbride

I don't!

To deny that he made some amazing contributions to TES lore and set it apart from every cookie-cutter fantasy setting out there (or at the very least, uplifted it from its DnD homebrew origins), would be very stupid. He also stuck adamantly to the "open source" aspect of TES lore, as Schick did too, which I also appreciate and love.

But on the other hand his writing eventually became more deranged and nonsensical, his woman characters come in only two settings, those being "Mom" or "Whore", or both at once (his take on Almalexia), he has a creepy fixation on "intersex=divine", he LOVES to use sexual violence in his writing, and his interactions with the fandom can easily be described as abusive and monstrous (but this isn't the place for that discussion).

A while back he decided to bow out of the TES fandom, to everyone's benefit. Zenimax/Bethesda, to their credit, DO incorporate some of his better work done outside of their, hm, supervision, so at least there's that. (C0DA was actually referenced in Morrowind and the Clockwork City, actually)

BOLD: I do have to agree with you on this; his writings on the Imperial Library and the Lore section of the Bethesda Official Forums were beginning to show that before he "disappeared." But for what he did before that; I have to give him credit and homage. He was never abusive (that I saw) on the Imperial Library forums; he was kind of worshiped by all there = wouldn't have been if he'd been obnoxious without reason.

I found some odd sexual stories going on in the older TES stories = rape, (Molag Bal) incest, (6th House/Poison Song) promiscuity, (Barenziah) or just plain weird stuff (like King Hrol with a mound of dirt he thought was Alessia on the site that later became Sancre Tor and supposedly produced Reman 1 thirty years later) etc. - but all that was in the Lore long before Michael Kirkbride started fraying at the edges struggling to retain the threads of the more complex aspects of the Lore he created and developed.

Also = can't even talk about TES without thinking of Ted Peterson.













This post has been edited by mALX: Feb 9 2019, 07:12 AM

[monkeyemoness]

We love you Michael Kirkbride

I don't!

To deny that he made some amazing contributions to TES lore and set it apart from every cookie-cutter fantasy setting out there (or at the very least, uplifted it from its DnD homebrew origins), would be very stupid. He also stuck adamantly to the "open source" aspect of TES lore, as Schick did too, which I also appreciate and love.

But on the other hand his writing eventually became more deranged and nonsensical, his woman characters come in only two settings, those being "Mom" or "Whore", or both at once (his take on Almalexia), he has a creepy fixation on "intersex=divine", he LOVES to use sexual violence in his writing, and his interactions with the fandom can easily be described as abusive and monstrous (but this isn't the place for that discussion).

A while back he decided to bow out of the TES fandom, to everyone's benefit. Zenimax/Bethesda, to their credit, DO incorporate some of his better work done outside of their, hm, supervision, so at least there's that. (C0DA was actually referenced in Morrowind and the Clockwork City, actually)

BOLD: I do have to agree with you on this; his writings on the Imperial Library and the Lore section of the Bethesda Official Forums were beginning to show that before he "disappeared." But for what he did before that; I have to give him credit and homage. He was never abusive (that I saw) on the Imperial Library forums; he was kind of worshiped by all there = wouldn't have been if he'd been obnoxious without reason.

I found some odd sexual stories going on in the older TES stories = rape, (Molag Bal) incest, (6th House/Poison Song) promiscuity, (Barenziah) or just plain weird stuff (like King Hrol with a mound of dirt he thought was Alessia on the site that later became Sancre Tor and supposedly produced Reman 1 thirty years later) etc. - but all that was in the Lore long before Michael Kirkbride started fraying at the edges struggling to retain the threads of the more complex aspects of the Lore he created and developed.

I wrote several paragraphs documenting a lot of his, uh, questionable behavior but thought it was best to not bring that in here lol.


But yeah, Ted Petersen's another good one lol

[mALX]

We love you Michael Kirkbride

I don't!

To deny that he made some amazing contributions to TES lore and set it apart from every cookie-cutter fantasy setting out there (or at the very least, uplifted it from its DnD homebrew origins), would be very stupid. He also stuck adamantly to the "open source" aspect of TES lore, as Schick did too, which I also appreciate and love.

But on the other hand his writing eventually became more deranged and nonsensical, his woman characters come in only two settings, those being "Mom" or "Whore", or both at once (his take on Almalexia), he has a creepy fixation on "intersex=divine", he LOVES to use sexual violence in his writing, and his interactions with the fandom can easily be described as abusive and monstrous (but this isn't the place for that discussion).

A while back he decided to bow out of the TES fandom, to everyone's benefit. Zenimax/Bethesda, to their credit, DO incorporate some of his better work done outside of their, hm, supervision, so at least there's that. (C0DA was actually referenced in Morrowind and the Clockwork City, actually)

BOLD: I do have to agree with you on this; his writings on the Imperial Library and the Lore section of the Bethesda Official Forums were beginning to show that before he "disappeared." But for what he did before that; I have to give him credit and homage. He was never abusive (that I saw) on the Imperial Library forums; he was kind of worshiped by all there = wouldn't have been if he'd been obnoxious without reason.

I found some odd sexual stories going on in the older TES stories = rape, (Molag Bal) incest, (6th House/Poison Song) promiscuity, (Barenziah) or just plain weird stuff (like King Hrol with a mound of dirt he thought was Alessia on the site that later became Sancre Tor and supposedly produced Reman 1 thirty years later) etc. - but all that was in the Lore long before Michael Kirkbride started fraying at the edges struggling to retain the threads of the more complex aspects of the Lore he created and developed.

I wrote several paragraphs documenting a lot of his, uh, questionable behavior but thought it was best to not bring that in here lol.


But yeah, Ted Petersen's another good one lol

I never followed him anywhere but the Official Bethesda Forums and the Imperial Library = Lore discussions; where he was kind of the "Guru" since a lot of it sprang from his mind originally. But towards the later years some of his explanations began to become convoluted sounding and so thick to wade through that I kind of started dropping back and using the original texts instead of the discussions. (My own interpretations might never be as knowledgeable as his answers; but were easier to come to a conclusion on). That said; if he answered a question I still felt compelled to read it. Sometimes his answers were canon; or you could decipher where Lore started to disintegrate.

Truthfully = I had begun to wonder if he had early onset Alzheimer's or was drinking/on meds (or maybe needed to get back on some meds, lol).

I didn't know he RP'd! Did you RP with him or come across it? From what you've said, his behavior on that RP = Wow! That kind of makes me wonder what the heck is going on with him behind the scenes? I mean...I was joking about needing to get back on meds, but ... really does sound like something isn't right. Maybe that is what caused the separation with Bethesda.