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Acadian
post Apr 24 2015, 03:45 AM
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Gstaff, of Bethesda, announced on the Bethesda forum that Skyrim Workshop Now Supports Paid Mods. Here's the thread.

To say the reaction there has been underwhelming is a massive understatement. If I spend more than a moment pondering unintended consequences and pitfalls, I’m afraid I must agree with the ominous implications this has for the future of modding. A ton of posts on that thread already beat up the subject pretty well.

I confess I prefer as little to do with Steam as possible and have never touched their 'workshop'. I get my mods from Nexus, but the implications are disturbing - even for private hobby modders. Naturally, Steam is taking a big cut of all proceeds. Does this mean that for future games, the CK/CS will only be made available to 'for profit' Steam workshoppers? This seems to validate the concerns many of us have about Steam and their ability to control what you thought you paid for.


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post Apr 25 2015, 02:36 AM
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Okay, I read Chesko's last post. This guy kills me; really - making excuses for why he did what he did wrong, trying to blame it on everyone but himself, hmmm. laugh.gif

So if they are only getting 25% the modders will only turn out cheap crap? "Nothing like Falskar" (Which Alexander made for free, his love of the game and modding, and hopefully to get a job in the gaming industry - which he did get).

Alexander didn't hold back and slap crap together because he wasn't being paid for it, but obviously this Chenko considers how much you make to how much effort he is willing to put into his hobby - although he already told us he shunned his marriage/family/career to do it when he was doing it for free; lol.

So then he thought he was getting screwed for only getting 25% when he did all the work to make the mod? "Oh poor me, it's not fair, waaaaaah" rollinglaugh.gif

I guess he didn't think Bethesda deserved a bigger cut for making the game and CK for him to make the mod on? Or Steam giving him the site and ready customer base? Oooookaaaay !!! rollinglaugh.gif

This guy has a real inflated view of what his mods are worth, next we'll see him on Kickstarter, lol.

And obviously he didn't think FNIS deserved a cut either, because he tried to slip their work in there without notice, lol.


According to the posts below that, he has closed out all his accounts including his Twitter.




QUOTE(Acadian @ Apr 24 2015, 02:51 PM) *

Yes. . . kvright.gif Turning a hobby into profits tends to introduce enough headaches to kill any passion. That is why I would never consider writing for profit. I figure the problems Chesko discusses are simply the tip of the iceberg when it comes to brand new headaches for modders.



Chesko created his own problems from what he himself wrote.




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Acadian   Skyrim Workshop Now Supports Paid Mods   Apr 24 2015, 03:45 AM
ghastley   As I already mentioned on the Mods thread at Beths...   Apr 24 2015, 03:55 AM
mirocu   This is why I never support Steam or anything like...   Apr 24 2015, 09:29 AM
mALX   This is why I never support Steam or anything lik...   Apr 24 2015, 09:06 PM
Grits   Well, the other shoe has dropped. This explains so...   Apr 24 2015, 10:30 AM
mirocu   Yeah, this is yet another terrible idea in the lin...   Apr 24 2015, 10:42 AM
Grits   There are some amusing responses from modders alre...   Apr 24 2015, 11:51 AM
mirocu   :rofl: :rofl:   Apr 24 2015, 11:52 AM
Grits   Here is a statement from isoku.   Apr 24 2015, 01:10 PM
Acadian   I'll never pay for a mod any more than I would...   Apr 24 2015, 02:35 PM
SubRosa   I first read about this a month ago, and it still ...   Apr 24 2015, 02:40 PM
ghastley   My concern is being accused of plagarism when it ...   Apr 24 2015, 04:37 PM
mALX   I first read about this a month ago, and it still...   Apr 24 2015, 11:57 PM
mirocu   "Joining mirocu playing Pokemon"? I d...   Apr 24 2015, 04:19 PM
Grits   Aand the Nexus is down. I think I'll play some...   Apr 24 2015, 04:21 PM
SubRosa   Aand the Nexus is down. Gee, the only major sit...   Apr 24 2015, 04:36 PM
mirocu   You know, Grits... You should make us pay for read...   Apr 24 2015, 04:30 PM
Grits   Ha ha, I’m sure I’m not… Hang on, someone’s at the...   Apr 24 2015, 04:40 PM
ghastley   The Dark One makes a good point about plagiarism i...   Apr 24 2015, 04:50 PM
Grits   The Dark One makes a good point about plagiarism ...   Apr 24 2015, 04:57 PM
mirocu   We can no longer trust any post made by the member...   Apr 24 2015, 04:50 PM
SubRosa   And one of my predictions I made in my first post ...   Apr 24 2015, 04:51 PM
Acadian   I wonder who the real culprit here is? Mod user...   Apr 24 2015, 05:13 PM
ghastley   Steam. Have they become enough of an 800 pound...   Apr 24 2015, 05:39 PM
haute ecole rider   Like SubRosa, I first read about this over on the ...   Apr 24 2015, 05:34 PM
mirocu   It is a tough debate, I admit. But if we go there,...   Apr 24 2015, 05:41 PM
Acadian   It is a tough debate, I admit. But if we go there...   Apr 24 2015, 06:04 PM
SubRosa   [quote name='ghastley' post='238195' date='Apr 24...   Apr 24 2015, 06:03 PM
ghastley   Would double your current rate make a difference? ...   Apr 24 2015, 06:06 PM
Acadian   Would double your current rate make a difference?...   Apr 24 2015, 06:11 PM
Grits   Here's some news from Chesko, I think. Wow. Li...   Apr 24 2015, 07:40 PM
SubRosa   Here's some news from Chesko, I think. Wow. [...   Apr 24 2015, 09:46 PM
Callidus Thorn   Here's some news from Chesko, I think. Wow. L...   Apr 24 2015, 10:01 PM
mALX   Here's some news from Chesko, I think. Wow. L...   Apr 25 2015, 01:56 AM
Acadian   Yes. . . :-/o Turning a hobby into profits tend...   Apr 24 2015, 07:51 PM
haute ecole rider   I agree, Acadian, that I wouldn't write for pr...   Apr 24 2015, 09:04 PM
Acadian   Goodness! The BethSoft SkyMods forum is going...   Apr 25 2015, 01:32 AM
mirocu   Goodness! The BethSoft SkyMods forum is goin...   Apr 25 2015, 07:38 AM
SubRosa   Here is one of the latest responses to the situati...   Apr 25 2015, 02:53 AM
mALX   Here is one of the latest responses to the situat...   Apr 25 2015, 03:10 AM
gpstr   I haven't read anything on this thread yet bec...   Apr 25 2015, 03:15 AM
mALX   I haven't read anything on this thread yet be...   Apr 25 2015, 03:50 AM
SubRosa   So far I have read a couple articles on Forbes abo...   Apr 25 2015, 05:11 AM
Grits   The tone is considerably calmer this morning, or a...   Apr 25 2015, 01:29 PM
Acadian   Grits, thanks for linking to Emma's post else ...   Apr 25 2015, 02:22 PM
SubRosa   What Emma says about sharing brings me back to my ...   Apr 25 2015, 04:09 PM
mALX   * One thing no one has mentioned on any of these ...   Apr 25 2015, 06:00 PM
SubRosa   In the past Bethesda refused mods to be sold becau...   Apr 25 2015, 06:14 PM
mALX   In the past Bethesda refused mods to be sold beca...   Apr 25 2015, 07:30 PM
Acadian   I'm scratching my head here still at the lack ...   Apr 25 2015, 06:42 PM
Callidus Thorn   I'm scratching my head here still at the lack...   Apr 25 2015, 10:32 PM
gpstr   I closely watched, and commented on, Skyrim's ...   Apr 25 2015, 09:13 PM
mirocu   I closely watched, and commented on, Skyrim's...   Apr 25 2015, 09:43 PM
SubRosa   My only real beef against Steam is the DRM they fo...   Apr 25 2015, 10:41 PM
Renee   Renee: *munches popcorn*   Apr 26 2015, 01:17 AM
gpstr   [quote name='Acadian' post='238304' date='Apr 25 ...   Apr 26 2015, 02:03 AM
mirocu   Sorry, but every single person who continues to d...   Apr 26 2015, 07:28 AM
Acadian   Well, I downloaded a handful of Nexus mods on my ...   Apr 26 2015, 04:03 PM
Grits   That’s a good idea. Since I had already removed ...   Apr 26 2015, 05:28 PM
SubRosa   I have been doing the opposite. I am deleting mods...   Apr 26 2015, 05:52 PM
mALX   I have been doing the opposite. I am deleting mod...   Apr 26 2015, 09:09 PM
gpstr   When we are all tired from hashing and reacting, ...   Apr 27 2015, 01:09 AM
Acadian   Heh, I've never navigated beyond the one Steam...   Apr 26 2015, 06:31 PM
Grits   I saw a comment from Mardoxx and thought it was a ...   Apr 26 2015, 08:06 PM
SubRosa   That is disappointing. It looks like I will be del...   Apr 26 2015, 08:45 PM
mirocu   But is there really a reason to remove mods you al...   Apr 26 2015, 09:11 PM
SubRosa   The utter contempt I feel for these people preclud...   Apr 26 2015, 09:13 PM
mALX   The utter contempt I feel for these people preclu...   Apr 26 2015, 11:01 PM
mALX   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-U1HZrV_ZI...eatu...   Apr 27 2015, 12:08 AM
SubRosa   [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-U1HZrV_ZI...   Apr 27 2015, 01:11 AM
mALX   [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-U1HZrV_ZI...   Apr 27 2015, 02:30 AM
Acadian   I'm more upset with Steam than anyone else. S...   Apr 27 2015, 12:19 AM
mALX   Here is the list of mods behind the paywall: htt...   Apr 27 2015, 01:08 AM
Acadian   MALX, thanks for posting that list of paymods. Pr...   Apr 27 2015, 03:23 AM
mALX   MALX, thanks for posting that list of paymods. P...   Apr 27 2015, 04:24 AM
Acadian   I believe this is good news indeed: http://stea...   Apr 28 2015, 12:57 AM
haute ecole rider   Now that's interesting! I honestly did not...   Apr 28 2015, 01:00 AM
SubRosa   That is good news. h.e.r. Forbes ran this intere...   Apr 28 2015, 01:26 AM
mALX   That is good news. h.e.r. Forbes ran this inter...   Apr 28 2015, 05:03 AM
mALX   WOOO HOOOOO !!!! It is OVAH ...   Apr 28 2015, 01:31 AM
gpstr   I guarantee that it's not over. Now Beth and ...   Apr 28 2015, 01:42 AM
mirocu   I guarantee that it's not over. Now Beth and...   Apr 28 2015, 07:24 AM
Callidus Thorn   I guarantee that it's not over. Now Beth and...   Apr 28 2015, 08:44 AM
Grits   “We’ve done this because it’s clear we didn’t unde...   Apr 28 2015, 01:48 AM
SubRosa   Wait, I thought FO4 was going to be FOO, FallOut ...   Apr 28 2015, 02:38 AM
mALX   Wait, I thought FO4 was going to be FOO, FallOut...   Apr 28 2015, 03:36 AM
mALX   Bethesda Quote: Some are concerned that this who...   Apr 28 2015, 01:52 AM
ghastley   Time to necro this thread, with the announcement o...   Jun 12 2017, 05:57 PM
mALX   Time to necro this thread, with the announcement ...   Jun 12 2017, 08:48 PM
TheCheshireKhajiit   Well, they have said they won't be replacing t...   Jun 13 2017, 03:23 AM
mALX   Well, they have said they won't be replacing ...   Jun 13 2017, 05:42 AM
TheCheshireKhajiit   Ditto. I never felt like they truly gave up the ...   Jun 13 2017, 06:35 AM
ghastley   My big worry is that they'll start restricting...   Jun 13 2017, 01:32 PM
mALX   My big worry is that they'll start restrictin...   Jun 13 2017, 01:53 PM
TheCheshireKhajiit   My big worry is that they'll start restrictin...   Jun 13 2017, 03:28 PM
ghastley   On the other hand, maybe it will be the end of sil...   Jun 13 2017, 01:58 PM
ghastley   I can't remember where I read it now, but some...   Aug 31 2017, 02:59 PM
mALX   I can't remember where I read it now, but som...   Aug 31 2017, 05:23 PM
ghastley   I don't see this as Steam-related in any way. ...   Aug 31 2017, 06:03 PM
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