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Posted by: 1234king Mar 18 2006, 07:08 AM

i am still going to play morrowind even with oblivion. i still haven't even beat the main quest so i intend to do that one day

Posted by: xycolian Mar 18 2006, 07:19 AM

your poll is jacked up I think.

Posted by: Duncan Frost Mar 18 2006, 09:24 AM

Ye, you didn't do it correctly, you're supposed to put one on each line, not all on the same line.

And NO, I'm not going to play it. It would just seem so... UTTERLY UTTERLY CRAP.
Yes.

Posted by: Deathbane27 Mar 18 2006, 09:28 AM

Heh.

No. I've played Morrowind to death. There's probably 5 more quests out there but they're not worth finding. I've wandered the land with a dozen characters, seen it all, done it all. Twice.

Posted by: Tellie Mar 18 2006, 12:49 PM

There is aleredy a post for this, so I dont see the point in creating a new one....and for the record...yes I love MW, and will continue and play it.

Posted by: Curly_G_ Mar 19 2006, 04:35 PM

I've sold my copy... *shrugs*

Posted by: sins_to_dark Mar 19 2006, 06:41 PM

I've played Morrowind to death it is one of my favourite games but when I get Oblivion why would i want to go back in time to Morrowind, it would seem so boring compared to Oblivion but as i said that wont stop Morrowind being one of my favourite games.

Since I had Orginal Morrowind and the GOTY edition I will probally keep the GOTY edition but ive given my orignal copy to my mate, let him get all the enjoy out of morrowind that i have experianced smile.gif

Posted by: Storander Mar 19 2006, 08:44 PM

I will never play Morrowind again, likely. Morrowind will seem empty and lifeless compared to Oblivion. Already does, with Oblivion so close.

But the other day I was thinking about how I have been playing Morrowind since it came out, everyday, and I'm really attached to my old main characters. I guess I roleplayed them too good wink.gif .
So I've decided as practice for modding with the new AI, I'm making my old characters NPCs. smile.gif


I know, I'm crazy. blink.gif

Posted by: HyPN0 Mar 22 2006, 12:13 AM

I have played Morrowind for sooooooo long,and i don't intend to play it anytime soon.....

I have faith in http://www.silgrad.com/cpo/news/ team to make a good replica of Morrowind.....With new quests and all....Old quests tire me 'couse i've played them about a 100 times......But i still love Morrowind as a province.....It will allways be in my heart

Posted by: Ereneth Mar 27 2006, 02:44 AM

I'll most likely have a bit of a wait for Oblivion.


Even after it comes out, I'll still find time for Morrowind on occasion. Heck, I have Warcraft III but still play Warcraft II sometimes. smile.gif

Posted by: minque Mar 27 2006, 06:42 PM

Of course I will.....hmm doesn´t have Ob tet and then my comp would probably not even let me play it..so..... kvleft.gif

Posted by: Taillus Mar 30 2006, 04:41 PM

I am having alot of problems trying to run OB so for now I have just installed as many mods as I can fit into Morrowind and have been playing that a little bit.

Posted by: Zy Roder Mar 30 2006, 06:47 PM

I will, to some extent.

Playing Oblivion has evoked some nostalgia for Morrowing within me. So, more than likely, I will play it again.

Posted by: itsupthere Apr 1 2006, 06:23 AM

QUOTE(sins_to_dark @ Mar 19 2006, 11:41 AM)
I've played Morrowind to death it is one of my favourite games but when I get Oblivion why would i want to go back in time to Morrowind, it would seem so boring compared to Oblivion but as i said that wont stop Morrowind being one of my favourite games.

Since I had Orginal Morrowind and the GOTY edition I will probally keep the GOTY edition but ive given my orignal copy to my mate, let him get all the enjoy out of morrowind that i have experianced  smile.gif
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Like a good fan should! I salute you.

Posted by: Magefire Apr 1 2006, 11:29 AM

What Zy said. Seeing Ob in all its glory has made me nostalgic for MW again and I am going to fire up a new character and play it some more.

People who have not experienced MW don't know what they are missing!

Posted by: Ze Milanio Apr 1 2006, 08:37 PM

Shame on you all who only look for glittering graphics and whatnot in RPGs nono.gif hell yeah, I will play Morrowind, and with even more enthusiasm because I only have GoTY for 5 or 6 weeks now... and I am eager to go to that Scandinavian island up there, above Vvardenfell, and tell mr. Hircine a few 'kind' words devilsmile.gif In the meantime, you should look up to this guy:

QUOTE(Ereneth @ Mar 27 2006, 01:44 AM)
Heck, I have Warcraft III but still play Warcraft II sometimes. smile.gif
*


That's the spirit ! Good luck and good hunting, Ereneth !

Posted by: minque Apr 1 2006, 09:21 PM

QUOTE(milanius @ Apr 1 2006, 08:37 PM)
Shame on you all who only look for glittering graphics and whatnot in RPGs nono.gif hell yeah, I will play Morrowind, and with even more enthusiasm because I only have GoTY for 5 or 6 weeks now... and I am eager to go to that Scandinavian island up there, above Vvardenfell, and tell mr. Hircine a few 'kind' words devilsmile.gif In the meantime, you should look up to this guy:

That's the spirit ! Good luck and good hunting, Ereneth !
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Hehe....scandinavian huh? Mmmmm yeah, Solstheim´s kinda like some parts of Sweden yes..anyway the Bloodmoon expansion is very nice I think...I am in the middle of it..though I´ve experienced some very strange bugs....like finding Almalexia´s hands...in a frikkin´cave in Solstheim!... blink.gif

Milanius.....you should come visit Sweden you know!...Let me know if you´re somewhat near.....m´kay?

Posted by: Tellie Apr 1 2006, 09:48 PM

QUOTE(minque @ Apr 1 2006, 10:21 PM)
Hehe....scandinavian huh? Mmmmm yeah, Solstheim´s  kinda like some parts of Sweden yes..anyway the Bloodmoon expansion is very nice I think...I am in the middle of it..though I´ve experienced some very strange bugs....like finding Almalexia´s hands...in a frikkin´cave in Solstheim!... blink.gif

Milanius.....you should come visit Sweden you know!...Let me know if you´re somewhat near.....m´kay?
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Hmm, here it comes again...the endless discussion wether Solstheim is more like Sweden or Norway....hmm, kjære nabo, vi kommer aldri til å bli enige på den der...tongue.gif Trabslation: My dear neighbour, well never be able toi agree on that...

Personally I think it's more like Norway, but well, thats me...laugh.gif

But yup, I'm still playing MW,even though I have Oblivion...I love MW stilll...wub.gif ahhh the memories...wub.gif

Posted by: treydog Apr 1 2006, 11:58 PM

Ummm- I kind of have to, seeing as I haven't finished my story yet. And then there is the possibility of a Bloodmoon story- assuming I don't let poor old Trey go into a well-deserved retirement....

Posted by: Kiln Apr 2 2006, 05:50 AM

QUOTE(treydog @ Apr 1 2006, 10:58 PM)
Ummm- I kind of have to, seeing as I haven't finished my story yet.  And then there is the possibility of a Bloodmoon story- assuming I don't let poor old Trey go into a well-deserved retirement....
*


If you do choose to stop writing the story of Trey (after you finish the tribunal...and you had better finish it laugh.gif tongue.gif), you could start a new story that takes place in Cyrodiil, with Radiant AI and all it could make for an interesting story. It would be a shame to see you stop writing all together Trey. smile.gif

Myself I will likely stop playing Morrowind as much, thats if I ever get Oblivion which could be anytime from now to never, I can't be sure if I'll ever get it.

Morrowind kept me entertained for so long but I've done everything there is to do in it and the expansions several times with different characters and there is little reason for me to return to it now.

That game was a good one but I don't think things will ever amaze me like the first time I played it again, there's no way to get that feeling back when its gone. When there's nothing left to discover, there's not much to do and thats why I'll play it very little.

Posted by: Zelda_Zealot Apr 3 2006, 06:01 PM

I WOULD play it again but it seems the world is against me. I can't play it on my 360, my computer crashs when ever there is two or more npcs on screen, my friends computer (Which could use tons of mods plus the FPS enhancer set to full AND the scripting enhancer.) can't even get to the main menu with one mod on... I think "they" are against me... emot-ninja1.gif

Posted by: Fuzzy Knight Apr 4 2006, 01:29 PM

Nope - Haven't played Morrowind for far over a year and due to that the CD is gone to. Guess I'll be stuck only playing Oblivion sometimes inbetween..

Posted by: minque Apr 4 2006, 04:53 PM

QUOTE(Telendil Delvanni @ Apr 1 2006, 09:48 PM)
Hmm, here it comes again...the endless discussion wether Solstheim is more like Sweden or Norway....hmm, kjære nabo, vi kommer aldri til å bli enige på den der...tongue.gif Trabslation: My dear neighbour, well never be able toi agree on that...

Personally I think it's more like Norway, but well, thats me...laugh.gif

But yup, I'm still playing MW,even though I have Oblivion...I love MW stilll...wub.gif  ahhh the memories...wub.gif
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Ok ...but don´t you think Norway and Sweden somwhat resembles each other? In some parts of northern sweden it´s rather norwegian....but that´s me! I prefer to think of Sotstheim as ......swedish with a norwegian touch! biggrin.gif

QUOTE(treydog @ Apr 1 2006, 11:58 PM)
Ummm- I kind of have to, seeing as I haven't finished my story yet.  And then there is the possibility of a Bloodmoon story- assuming I don't let poor old Trey go into a well-deserved retirement....
*



Och aye treydog! We do need a Solstheim-sequel....there are plenty of time to write an Oblivion version of dear Trey!

Posted by: Archiedex Apr 4 2006, 07:51 PM

Of course I'll still be playing Morrowind. I've been playing Oblivion for about 2 weeks now and i already miss morrowind. sad.gif Oblivion just is missing something that i can't describe that morrowind had. I just don't know what.

Posted by: Agent Griff Apr 4 2006, 08:24 PM

QUOTE(Archiedex @ Apr 4 1906, 08:51 PM)
  Oblivion just is missing something that i can't describe that morrowind had. I just don't know what.
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The ability to wear armour under robes.

Posted by: 1234king Apr 6 2006, 03:52 AM

QUOTE(Archiedex @ Apr 4 2006, 11:51 AM)
Oblivion just is missing something that i can't describe that morrowind had. I just don't know what.
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half naked caisus waiting for you in his house.

Posted by: Agent Griff Apr 7 2006, 06:29 AM

Oh yeah, that's a good one. How could I have missed that?

Posted by: sins_to_dark Apr 7 2006, 03:19 PM

Aye, i wont deny there are parts of morrowind I miss, armour under robes etc but the thing i will always miss from MW is how amazed and immersied in the world of MW i was from the moment i awoke on that boat talking to my good old pal Jiub, i will miss the excitement i had when walking to Balmora, a feeling that i wont have again cause i didnt know what to expect on MW but i had expectations for Oblivion smile.gif But Oblivion does RULE

Posted by: Ibis Apr 28 2006, 12:06 PM

I still have Arena and Daggerfall on the w98 part of my hard drive and have added Morrowind over there to make a lot of modding room for Oblivion on the w2k side. I haven't played the older 2 for awhile, but I definitely am still modding for Morrowind and I think I will play it some too.

Especially since Oblivion is lagging out for me until I get an new video card.

Posted by: evil_ducky Apr 28 2006, 09:14 PM

Despite the total awesomeness of oblivion it seems in morrowind there is more to do, at least with the game of the year edition. Morrowind is still gonna be one of my most played games, although i will play oblivion more. biggrin.gif

Posted by: Olav May 3 2006, 12:29 PM

I'll probably continue playing Morrowind. I started a new game (which was only my second) a few weeks before Oblivion came out.

Also, I got the upgrades Bloodmoon and Tribunal a short time before I got saturated (or tired) of Morrowind a few years ago, so there is much I haven't done yet.

And now after playing Oblivion almsot constantly for a few weeks I also feel that Obivion is missing something (besides half naked skooma-heads). The atmosphere was somewhat better and more mysterious, I think. For example when I approached the Red Mountain for the first time I was in awe.

And I haven't tried a single mod for Morrowind, so I guess I have something to look forward to there as well.

Finally, now that I've read about half of the history book that came with the collector's edition of Oblivion I really feel like experiencing Morrowind/Vardenfell again and its people again.

Posted by: Ibis Jun 3 2006, 02:12 PM

QUOTE(Olav @ May 3 2006, 07:29 AM)
For example when I approached the Red Mountain for the first time I was in awe.

And I haven't tried a single mod for Morrowind, so I guess I have something to look forward to there as well.


Wow Olav ... you're a virgin! modwise, I mean. tongue.gif hehehe Wow, you've got some fantastic things ahead if you are going to be trying some of the MW mods. I hope you can still find the good ones.

Posted by: Ramirez Jun 8 2006, 12:50 AM

I would think that once I own Oblivion, I will not touch Morrowind for quite a long time. However, I can foresee myself re installing maybe a couple of years later and trying it out again.

Posted by: dagoth carlos Jun 8 2006, 07:50 AM

i played oblivion for a compiled 2 days... and i worked it out of my system till the end of this year...(im going to boot camp, so dont wanna long for it in the millitary camp) but as long as im still around... im going to be playing morrowind till the end of my days..sad.gif oh whell.... i got some head mods from nettin.net(sorry, i dunno if im supposed to advertise this site, which im not...) to look forward 2

Posted by: Zarrexaij Jun 17 2006, 03:26 AM

I still play Morrowind.

In fact, I play Morrowind more than Oblivion, seeing I myself do not have Oblivion, but my boyfriend does.

Posted by: Tellie Jun 20 2006, 11:45 PM

I have said it before, Mw is teh best game I have ever played...sure Ilove Oblivion, bit with teh expansions, and all of the lovely mods out there, Morrowind is a faaaaar more attractive game....at least to me, so I guess I'll stop playing Oblivion before I stop Morrowind.

Posted by: Daedroth Feb 27 2008, 07:34 PM


QUOTE(Tellie @ Apr 1 2006, 09:48 PM) *
Personally I think it's more like Norway, but well, thats me...laugh.gif

Well, that depends on wich parts of the Scandinavia you're talking about. But it's like the north west of Sweden, Norway and north Finland in my opinion.


//Daedroth

Posted by: raggidman Apr 22 2008, 09:54 PM

heh, you forgot Iceland?

None of the mods have the best thing about Morrowind - the load/start screne theme. Do you remember how it starts with that measured drum beat - wonderful music - and a fine intro too.

Thing is that Morrowind was and is an open game. Same for Daggerfall. And Arena had that rep. By contrast (I understand) Oblivion has a closed quest structure or at least it is very controlled. That does not appeal to me in the same way.

I understand about the upgraded fight action and graphics are no doubt wonderful in some respects, but Morrowind was wonderful enough for me. Also people keep coming out with stuff about the Lore - that suggests that Oblivion does not have the same understanding of humanity that Morrowind did.

This is not to say that I am against the creation of new stuff - love it if it is special - just that I have not been bitten by the Oblivion bug as I was by Morrowind. And there is one further reason why. Where it may be great fun to play, as any console game can be, what was vital about Cyrodiil was that it is the Center of The Empire - and that means politics, industry and the metropolitan experience = sophistication. I have never read anything that indicates to me that was part of Oblivion.

By comparison Morrowind was and is politically fascinating.

Posted by: noniin_kaikki_tai_ei_mitään Apr 26 2008, 04:58 PM

I think that Morrowind is beter than Oblivion

Posted by: paragenic May 12 2008, 10:46 PM

salute.gif

Posted by: an obilivion geek May 20 2008, 11:46 PM

im only playing because my obilivion FROZE. whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy????? why do people always say that oblivin is crappy? its the best elder scroll and RPG. BTW does anybody know how to get in a arena fight in morrwind without mods

Posted by: LadySaira May 22 2008, 01:59 PM

QUOTE(an obilivion geek @ May 20 2008, 06:46 PM) *

im only playing because my obilivion FROZE. whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy????? why do people always say that oblivin is crappy? its the best elder scroll and RPG. BTW does anybody know how to get in a arena fight in morrwind without mods


A lost of people disagree with it being the best, as Cyrodiil (dill, whichever) was supposed to be the center of culture, the great cities. Instead we got mainly the same lore as we had from Morrowind, a lot of lip syncing, some half finished stories for various 'wierd' caves, and a few extra non-cookie cutter quests. It's not that Oblivion's bad, it just didn't live up to (everyones) expectations. Though new fans to TES seem to be just fine with it. kvleft.gif Not to say thats bad, of course, and this has just been my opinion.

Oh. And I <3 Morrowind.

Posted by: Lord Revan May 23 2008, 04:54 AM


My main problem with morrowind was that I could never "get into it." *This is back then and right now* I'd spend time brain-storming a character, creating a custom class and then after an hour of using this player I'd get bored and scrape it. Another thing I didn't like about Morrowind was the combat system, bows were pretty useless at the beggining (which I never managed to get past without losing interest). I get that some people like the character's skills to be based on the in-game stuff than actual factors from the player (like the lock-picking game in Oblivion), but I wish that if you were point-blank with a bow on someone's sternum that it would hit 99 out of 100 times with a non-bosmeri marksman character.

Most of the lore I know about elderscrolls I've got from fan-fics and Oblivion, because I didn't complete enough of Morrowind to get anything tangible out of it. Of course Oblivion was flawed, but honestly, I didn't have any trouble going through the game. I don't need people to tell me again Oblivion's flaws, but they didn't inhibit gameplay anymore than Morrowind's.

I play on the consoles, I don't mod, nor use mods. While I've lost my Oblivion craze, I haven't gotten rid of the game nor have I deleted my character. I still play from time-to-time, and as far as my enjoyability went, Oblivion was better than Morrowind.
Now, I've never met Vivec in Morrowind, nor played the expansions, nor passed level 25 (or whatever that magic level is) and attained god-like uber-ness. But Morrowind gave me an initial interest in the franchise, Oblivion has me waiting and hoping for ES: V, hopefully solving the flaws of Oblivion while regaining the "heart-and-soul" that made Morrowind appealing to those who've come to love it.

Posted by: Zalphon Mar 18 2010, 03:39 AM

In my personal opinion, Morrowind is far superior to Oblivion. But that is personal opinion, not fact.

Posted by: Liam Mar 18 2010, 09:41 AM

I still play Morrowind from time to time, I sometimes prefer to it to Oblivion, but get bored of the ridiculous amounts of times my sword goes through the target and the constant having to walk to places if the Silt Strider doesn't go there. So sometimes I prefer Oblivion to Morrowind.

I play both, because I'm just cool like that. laugh.gif

-Liam

Posted by: saqin Dec 24 2010, 11:56 AM

Honestly, I didn't ever play Morrowind until I played Oblivion(at which point I fell in love with the game) and then I bought Morrowind to try it.

Posted by: bene Jan 12 2011, 02:16 AM

QUOTE(saqin @ Dec 24 2010, 05:56 AM) *

Honestly, I didn't ever play Morrowind until I played Oblivion(at which point I fell in love with the game) and then I bought Morrowind to try it.


What'd you think? I have played Morrowind for over six years. I love it.

Posted by: Jacki Dice Jan 23 2011, 06:21 AM

Always ♥ Morrowind was my first love lol I adore that game to pieces.

Posted by: flowerboom Feb 6 2013, 10:54 PM

wow i didnt realise how old this thread was blink.gif , im the first poster in over ay ear but i say this - i play oblivion , skyrim AND morrowind biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kiln Feb 9 2013, 10:30 PM

I play Skyrim (rarely now) but have played Morrowind and Oblivion extensively to the point that literally 300+ hours have been wasted on each of them.

I loved those games and they absorbed every free moment of my time for years...especially Morrowind. It is still my favorite even though I find it hard to play because there just isn't anything left that I haven't done in it.

Posted by: ImperialSnob Jul 4 2013, 05:13 PM

FROM THE ASHES I RESURECT THEE!

Yes,I will/do still play.

Posted by: mirocu Jul 5 2013, 04:05 PM

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jul 4 2013, 06:13 PM) *

FROM THE ASHES I RESURECT THEE!

You necrodude, you tongue.gif

Haven´t played Morrowind for a long time now, more than a year I´d say. I like it but it doesn´t have "it" for me. It was overwhelmingly fun to start exploring it but somehow it couldn´t keep me interested on the same level as Oblivion.

kvleft.gif

Posted by: ImperialSnob Jul 5 2013, 05:01 PM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Jul 5 2013, 04:05 PM) *

QUOTE(ImperialSnob @ Jul 4 2013, 06:13 PM) *

FROM THE ASHES I RESURECT THEE!

You necrodude, you tongue.gif




I learned for the best.tongue.gif

Posted by: Pseron Wyrd Jul 11 2013, 01:06 AM

QUOTE(mirocu @ Jul 5 2013, 08:05 AM) *

Haven´t played Morrowind for a long time now, more than a year I´d say.

Same with me. I haven't played Morrowind in years. I think my last game was in 2009. But I got my money's worth. Between modding and playing I put well over 6000 hours into the game.

I still play Oblivion (I just started a new character a few days ago), Fallout 3, New Vegas and Skyrim, but I doubt that I'll be returning to Morrowind anytime soon. I think I'm finished with that game.

Posted by: mirocu Jul 11 2013, 11:16 AM

QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Jul 11 2013, 02:06 AM) *

I still play Oblivion (I just started a new character a few days ago)

I trust you will introduce us? tongue.gif

QUOTE(Pseron Wyrd @ Jul 11 2013, 02:06 AM) *

I doubt that I'll be returning to Morrowind anytime soon. I think I'm finished with that game.

Same for me, I reckon. Loved it but I don´t feel drawn to it anymore.

Posted by: Kazaera Jul 11 2013, 07:00 PM

I have actually still *only* played Morrowind tongue.gif

I keep meaning to look into Skyrim/Oblivion, but I don't have a computer with the necessary power (...hell, I no longer have a computer capable of running Morrowind, it's kind of sad) and neither of them really have the same pull for me. The thing is that what I really fell in love with in Morrowind is the world - and the idea of playing a TES game without silt striders, guar, mushroom towers, houses built out of giant crab shells, the Ashlands, etc. etc. etc. is just... it's not the same. sad.gif Needless to say, certain things that apparently happened to Vvardenfell pre-Skyrim make that game even LESS appealing (in that my strategy for dealing with those facts is LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU and playing Skyrim, where it's happened in-game, makes that harder)

Posted by: Kiln Jul 11 2013, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(Kazaera @ Jul 11 2013, 06:00 PM) *

I have actually still *only* played Morrowind tongue.gif

I keep meaning to look into Skyrim/Oblivion, but I don't have a computer with the necessary power (...hell, I no longer have a computer capable of running Morrowind, it's kind of sad) and neither of them really have the same pull for me. The thing is that what I really fell in love with in Morrowind is the world - and the idea of playing a TES game without silt striders, guar, mushroom towers, houses built out of giant crab shells, the Ashlands, etc. etc. etc. is just... it's not the same. sad.gif Needless to say, certain things that apparently happened to Vvardenfell pre-Skyrim make that game even LESS appealing (in that my strategy for dealing with those facts is LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU and playing Skyrim, where it's happened in-game, makes that harder)

Oblivion and Skyrim are great but I felt that OB was too shallow and generic for me to enjoy. As much as I didn't want to admit it, Skyrim is a step in the right direction when it comes to world interaction and such.

I just wish they'd get a little more creative with their bestiary and landscapes like they did with Morrowind.

Posted by: Kazaera Jul 12 2013, 06:52 PM

QUOTE(Kiln @ Jul 11 2013, 08:49 PM) *

I just wish they'd get a little more creative with their bestiary and landscapes like they did with Morrowind.


Yeah, this is pretty much what I mean - I *adored* what they did with Morrowind in terms of creatures and landscape and architecture and also things like culture and religion, because it was so unique and the world ended up so alien and different as a result. In comparison, what I've seen from Oblivion looks, to be frank, a lot more like Generic Fantasy World. I mean, it's a lot better on that front than various other games, but in comparison to Morrowind... it feels weirdly like backtracking.

I don't demand that all future TES games should be set in Morrowind tongue.gif but honestly, I'd love to see one in e.g. Elsweyr or Black Marsh, or maybe Valenwood, because I think those settings have a lot of potential for setting-creativity the way Morrowind did.

Posted by: mirocu Jul 14 2013, 10:38 AM

Morrowind is too strange for me, maybe one reason it couldn´t keep me hooked. I say, give me bland and generic any day cool.gif

Posted by: SubRosa Jul 14 2013, 06:06 PM

QUOTE(Kiln @ Jul 11 2013, 03:49 PM) *

QUOTE(Kazaera @ Jul 11 2013, 06:00 PM) *

I have actually still *only* played Morrowind tongue.gif

I keep meaning to look into Skyrim/Oblivion, but I don't have a computer with the necessary power (...hell, I no longer have a computer capable of running Morrowind, it's kind of sad) and neither of them really have the same pull for me. The thing is that what I really fell in love with in Morrowind is the world - and the idea of playing a TES game without silt striders, guar, mushroom towers, houses built out of giant crab shells, the Ashlands, etc. etc. etc. is just... it's not the same. sad.gif Needless to say, certain things that apparently happened to Vvardenfell pre-Skyrim make that game even LESS appealing (in that my strategy for dealing with those facts is LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU and playing Skyrim, where it's happened in-game, makes that harder)

Oblivion and Skyrim are great but I felt that OB was too shallow and generic for me to enjoy. As much as I didn't want to admit it, Skyrim is a step in the right direction when it comes to world interaction and such.

I just wish they'd get a little more creative with their bestiary and landscapes like they did with Morrowind.

To be honest, I did not like the bestiary in Morrowind at all. The creatures all looked like they were thrown together at random, without any thought given to how they would survive in a real world, or what roles they would play in a real ecosystem. I get the impression that the art department just sat down one day and knocked out them all over lunch, spending just a few minutes on each one and throwing out ideas like "Give this one a proboscis, give this one about spindly legs, I know a pack animal with two legs and a mouth that takes up over half its today body!" They are one of the major reasons the setting seemed fake to me, and made it impossible for me to roleplay in Morrowind. Give me the generic, real life critters like wolves, bears, deer, rabbits, and so forth any day. They make it a lot easier for me to forget I am playing a game, and instead believe I am playing a real person in a real world.

Posted by: Pseron Wyrd Jul 14 2013, 09:50 PM

I sometimes get the impression that many gamers think "bizarre" is the same thing as "creative."

I like mushroom houses and Kagouti, but at the same time I don't think the off-beat environment of Morrowind was better than Oblivion or Skyrim because of it. I think the worlds of Cyrodiil and Skyrim are more artistically coherent.

::Edit: Now that I think about it, what I dislike most about Morrowind's world are the jarring, WoW-style, color-coded "zones." They slap up against each other with abrupt transitions that I find disorienting and which remind me (to steal SubRosa's phrase) that I'm playing a game. There are spots where a single step takes us from lush, green Ascadian Isles into the barren, ash-storm-ravages wastes of Molag Amur.

When my characters travel on foot or on horseback from snowy Jerrol mountains down past Lake Rumare and on to the swamps near Leyawiin I am easily able to maintain the illusion that my character is traveling through a 3D representation of a real world. I do not have that feeling in Morrowind. To me, the landscape of Vvardenfell does not feel logical.

Posted by: Kiln Jul 16 2013, 09:30 AM

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I have actually still *only* played Morrowind tongue.gif

I keep meaning to look into Skyrim/Oblivion, but I don't have a computer with the necessary power (...hell, I no longer have a computer capable of running Morrowind, it's kind of sad) and neither of them really have the same pull for me. The thing is that what I really fell in love with in Morrowind is the world - and the idea of playing a TES game without silt striders, guar, mushroom towers, houses built out of giant crab shells, the Ashlands, etc. etc. etc. is just... it's not the same. sad.gif Needless to say, certain things that apparently happened to Vvardenfell pre-Skyrim make that game even LESS appealing (in that my strategy for dealing with those facts is LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU and playing Skyrim, where it's happened in-game, makes that harder)

Oblivion and Skyrim are great but I felt that OB was too shallow and generic for me to enjoy. As much as I didn't want to admit it, Skyrim is a step in the right direction when it comes to world interaction and such.

I just wish they'd get a little more creative with their bestiary and landscapes like they did with Morrowind.

To be honest, I did not like the bestiary in Morrowind at all. The creatures all looked like they were thrown together at random, without any thought given to how they would survive in a real world, or what roles they would play in a real ecosystem. I get the impression that the art department just sat down one day and knocked out them all over lunch, spending just a few minutes on each one and throwing out ideas like "Give this one a proboscis, give this one about spindly legs, I know a pack animal with two legs and a mouth that takes up over half its today body!" They are one of the major reasons the setting seemed fake to me, and made it impossible for me to roleplay in Morrowind. Give me the generic, real life critters like wolves, bears, deer, rabbits, and so forth any day. They make it a lot easier for me to forget I am playing a game, and instead believe I am playing a real person in a real world.

I suppose we'll just have to disagree. I don't want generic. I want to explore the world and learn about the creatures that live in the world.

I don't want to just walk up and see a rabbit because I know exactly what they are and what they do. The moment I see a wolf I know that it is dangerous and how it will behave. If I see a scrib, netch, or guar, I have no idea what the hell it is. I don't know if it is dangerous or harmless.

If I wanted to play a game about real life I'd just go outside and look for animals and socialize with other people instead of sitting on my computer or Xbox. Fantasy should be fantasy. It is part of what keeps the genre fresh.

Also, if you look at fossils or even living creatures from our own planet, it'll be obvious that not every animal's body needs to make sense for it to exist. Biology just happens.

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As far as the world goes, yes Morrowind's transition between regions are pretty abrupt but that was another time in world creation and back then it was one of the largest and most detailed open world games in existence. I have trouble playing Morrowind now because of the dated graphics and the fact that I pretty much conquered every single possible aspect of it (excluding mods) but I still liked the world because it was so different from anything I'd ever played. Skryim is great IMO because it is varied and the devs really seemed to take a step towards some of the things that players have been wanting for a long time.

Oblivion on the other hand was just....eeeewwwww. Every single aspect of vanilla OB was extremely generic and bland IMO.

Posted by: mirocu Jul 16 2013, 11:32 AM

Oblivion is maybe a different kind of fantasy I guess, compared to Morrowind. It still has magic though and strange creatures such as Billies, will-o-the-wisps, trolls, ogres etc. It has just a more "normal" setting which fits me much better smile.gif

Like we say, to each his own! laugh.gif

Posted by: Pseron Wyrd Jul 16 2013, 11:30 PM

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I suppose we'll just have to disagree. I don't want generic. Every single aspect of vanilla OB was extremely generic and bland IMO.


I don't accept this term "generic." As a way of communicating in English, the word "generic" is meaningless, as far as I'm concerned. It jas been my experience that the word "generic" is used by gamers as an all-purpose, one-size-fits-all insult, usually when the poster has no substantial argument to make and directed at anything that person does not personally approve of. It is in my list of vapid buzzwords like "dumbed down," "cookie cutter" and "casual:" words that make me stop reading posts on the Bethesda forums.

So it's probably better if I do not post in this thread anymore.

Posted by: Kiln Jul 17 2013, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(Kiln @ Jul 16 2013, 01:30 AM) *


I suppose we'll just have to disagree. I don't want generic. Every single aspect of vanilla OB was extremely generic and bland IMO.


I don't accept this term "generic." As a way of communicating in English, the word "generic" is meaningless, as far as I'm concerned. It jas been my experience that the word "generic" is used by gamers as an all-purpose, one-size-fits-all insult, usually when the poster has no substantial argument to make and directed at anything that person does not personally approve of. It is in my list of vapid buzzwords like "dumbed down," "cookie cutter" and "casual:" words that make me stop reading posts on the Bethesda forums.

So it's probably better if I do not post in this thread anymore.

You can disagree without getting upset. Me calling OB generic shouldn't upset you because it is an opinion. I could critique the game to a much greater extent but I've already been there and done that. For me it is the absolute least of the last three ES games.

I use the term generic when something becomes too plain or too alike other similar fantasy settings. Oblivion was the ES equivalent of LoTR, in my opinion. There was too little to separate the game world from other fantasy worlds where everything is castles and forest. Most caves and dungeons were extremely similar in layout and design. Almost every creature was pulled directly from real life mythology. It lacked creativity, which is and will continue to be my major complaint with it.

Posted by: ImperialSnob Jul 17 2013, 09:34 PM

As much as I do love OB,it's really generic at times.

Read:At times.

Also every TES' games combat as been horrible without mods.

We have to be a critic to everything,even those things we love.

Posted by: Colonel Mustard Jul 29 2013, 06:32 AM

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We have to be a critic to everything,even those things we love.

QFT. For so much delicious, juicy truth.

For me, Morrowind is a flawed diamond. It gets a lot of stuff right, in my opinion; the Middle-Eastern inspired aesthetic is unique and interesting, the story is a refreshing twist on 'The Chosen One' and is helped along by a well-developed and sometimes even sympathetic villain, the music and sound effects are pitch-perfect and the atmosphere is so thick and potent that you can use it to smother a small child.

The problem for me with Morrowind, is that while it's a beautiful game, it plays like a gigantic, steaming pile of guar turds. The combat doesn't work, I can never work out the stealth, the magic is OK but is ludicrously easy to break and the menu, while not as awful as Skyrim's by-crab-people-for-crab-people vanilla UI, is still pretty bad. Also, 'The Morrowind Swagger' default walk animation is faintly ridiculous to see.

Overall, I can play Morrowind in bursts. Generally, I can traipse around Vvardenfel for a few days at a time, soaking up the atmosphere before I eventually get sick of just how mechanically bad the game is and go and play something else.

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